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On 8/2/2019 8:50 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Whoey Louie, You hit a nerve!
Mikek
Whoey Louie, You hit a nerve!
Mikek
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Cursitor Doom
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On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 18:18:50 -0700, Rick C wrote:
> I have no idea how this detail relates to the discussion at hand.
Me neither. But at least it proves you don't accept claims at face value
and are at least *capable* of critical thinking, even if you don't
usually apply it in other areas.
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> I have no idea how this detail relates to the discussion at hand.
Me neither. But at least it proves you don't accept claims at face value
and are at least *capable* of critical thinking, even if you don't
usually apply it in other areas.
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Whoey Louie
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On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 9:50:28 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
I've added this one to your running file. So next time when you deny
making threats, I can show that you're again wrong. And at some point
I may decide giving it to the police is warranted, maybe they can get
you some help.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:8c5259b7-34c9-446f-8ad6-057f6705a105@googlegroups.com:
Just what we need, an angry hot head who's always wrong,
administering street justice.
When retards like you spout retarded cracks like this, it calls for
you to eat an 0.80" extreme overbore dinner.
That would truly be your basic, simple justice. Run to google now,
child. Go find out what "0.80" extreme overbore means" since I know
you are clueless about it currently. Come on over for breakfast.
Here's a hint: "Face Off".
Naaaah... more like "Head Off".
A new acronym! Instead of FOAD. HOAD!
I've added this one to your running file. So next time when you deny
making threats, I can show that you're again wrong. And at some point
I may decide giving it to the police is warranted, maybe they can get
you some help.
Guest
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:271f8eae-1487-4a81-bcdc-9b26387f1c3a@googlegroups.com:
I have never made a threat to anyone, much less you. Me saying that
you need pain or death is not me saying that I am coming for you.
That is the difference. I never threatened to visit any harm to you.
I said you need to have harm come to you, but get a clue, dipshit...
that is not a threat.
You are a threat to the human gene pool though. You and your
entire bloodline should be erased so that you do not sully it any
further than your lame bloodline already has.
news:271f8eae-1487-4a81-bcdc-9b26387f1c3a@googlegroups.com:
I've added this one to your running file. So next time when you
deny making threats, I can show that you're again wrong. And at
some point I may decide giving it to the police is warranted,
maybe they can get you some help.
I have never made a threat to anyone, much less you. Me saying that
you need pain or death is not me saying that I am coming for you.
That is the difference. I never threatened to visit any harm to you.
I said you need to have harm come to you, but get a clue, dipshit...
that is not a threat.
You are a threat to the human gene pool though. You and your
entire bloodline should be erased so that you do not sully it any
further than your lame bloodline already has.
P
Piotr Wyderski
Guest
John Larkin wrote:
So they have developed their own: footbal stadium is a unit of area and
an olympic pool for volume. I have never bothered to convert these to
proper SI.
> You know, the people who define "million" and "billion" as synonyms.
With "billion" there is enough confusion already. For that reason I
prefer "1e3 Island Dressing".
Best regards, Piotr
It has to do with people with journalism degrees who don't understand
engineering units.
So they have developed their own: footbal stadium is a unit of area and
an olympic pool for volume. I have never bothered to convert these to
proper SI.
> You know, the people who define "million" and "billion" as synonyms.
With "billion" there is enough confusion already. For that reason I
prefer "1e3 Island Dressing".
Best regards, Piotr
P
Piotr Wyderski
Guest
Cursitor Doom wrote:
> The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not believe
you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
> The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not believe
you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
R
Rick C
Guest
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:23:04 AM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore! "
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
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Cursitor Doom wrote:
The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not believe
you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore! "
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
Rick C.
++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
M
Mike Coon
Guest
In article <33c74d94-94df-4299-9f85-8e36d07d2d73@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...
I noticed watching a TV programme on A&E that when they delivered a
defibrillation shock (not meant to be lethal, of course!) the severity
was not in terms of voltage or current but joules.
Mike.
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and
current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob
after walking across a nylon carpet.
I noticed watching a TV programme on A&E that when they delivered a
defibrillation shock (not meant to be lethal, of course!) the severity
was not in terms of voltage or current but joules.
Mike.
W
Whoey Louie
Guest
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
There is a big range between lethal and a static shock. An electric fence
to keep livestock inside, or a Taser, for example, both quite nasty.
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:23:04 AM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not believe
you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore! "
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
Rick C.
++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
There is a big range between lethal and a static shock. An electric fence
to keep livestock inside, or a Taser, for example, both quite nasty.
Guest
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:af1ca798-6e9f-405c-8714-9ad7997a2561@googlegroups.com:
And both are "electric" and neither is "static".
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
You prove you know nothing about electronics... or electricity.
news:af1ca798-6e9f-405c-8714-9ad7997a2561@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:23:04 AM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski
wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not
believe you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but
that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
"
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and
current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob
after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
Rick C.
++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
There is a big range between lethal and a static shock. An
electric fence to keep livestock inside, or a Taser, for example,
both quite nasty.
And both are "electric" and neither is "static".
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
You prove you know nothing about electronics... or electricity.
R
Rick C
Guest
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 7:56:55 PM UTC-4, Whoey Louie wrote:
Yes, that is the point.
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On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:23:04 AM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not believe
you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore! "
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
Rick C.
++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
There is a big range between lethal and a static shock. An electric fence
to keep livestock inside, or a Taser, for example, both quite nasty.
Yes, that is the point.
--
Rick C.
--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
M
Mike Coon
Guest
In article <qi7trs$22o$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...
I think me and my pacemaker should keep well away from either of those.
(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Mike.
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
I think me and my pacemaker should keep well away from either of those.
(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Mike.
Guest
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 23:21:36 +0100, Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>
wrote:
The idea is to terminate the ventricular fibrillation and then provide
at least one heartbeat, hopefully the body can then generate further
heartbeats.
wrote:
In article <33c74d94-94df-4299-9f85-8e36d07d2d73@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and
current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob
after walking across a nylon carpet.
I noticed watching a TV programme on A&E that when they delivered a
defibrillation shock (not meant to be lethal, of course!) the severity
was not in terms of voltage or current but joules.
The idea is to terminate the ventricular fibrillation and then provide
at least one heartbeat, hopefully the body can then generate further
heartbeats.
Guest
upsidedown@downunder.com wrote in
news:930gke19bloijscv51hg6j3608q98612du@4ax.com:
20mA from the surface of the skin through the body mass to the heart
to cause the defibrillatory response.
In open heart surgery, the tiny 30mm paddles only pass 2mA directly
at the heart and get the same response.
news:930gke19bloijscv51hg6j3608q98612du@4ax.com:
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 23:21:36 +0100, Mike Coon
gravity@mjcoon.plus.com> wrote:
In article
33c74d94-94df-4299-9f85-8e36d07d2d73@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it
and current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door
knob after walking across a nylon carpet.
I noticed watching a TV programme on A&E that when they delivered
a defibrillation shock (not meant to be lethal, of course!) the
severity was not in terms of voltage or current but joules.
The idea is to terminate the ventricular fibrillation and then
provide at least one heartbeat, hopefully the body can then
generate further heartbeats.
20mA from the surface of the skin through the body mass to the heart
to cause the defibrillatory response.
In open heart surgery, the tiny 30mm paddles only pass 2mA directly
at the heart and get the same response.
W
Whoey Louie
Guest
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 8:39:30 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
I never said they were not both electric, fool. It would be hard to
get an electric shock from something that's not electric, don't you think?
No shit Sherlock. Sure those things can sometimes be lethal, but in the
vast majority of cases they are not, which of course is why we use them.
Next!
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:af1ca798-6e9f-405c-8714-9ad7997a2561@googlegroups.com:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 9:23:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:23:04 AM UTC-4, Piotr Wyderski
wrote:
Cursitor Doom wrote:
The great British public, eh?
Same as everywhere, I'm afraid. 1kV is lethal, period.
If you try to explain to them what are the levels of voltage
generated by wearing a pullover during a dry day, they will not
believe you. And there always is the ultimate answer "but
that's different!"
Best regards, Piotr
"a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
"
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and
current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob
after walking across a nylon carpet.
--
Rick C.
++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
There is a big range between lethal and a static shock. An
electric fence to keep livestock inside, or a Taser, for example,
both quite nasty.
And both are "electric" and neither is "static".
I never said they were not both electric, fool. It would be hard to
get an electric shock from something that's not electric, don't you think?
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
You prove you know nothing about electronics... or electricity.
No shit Sherlock. Sure those things can sometimes be lethal, but in the
vast majority of cases they are not, which of course is why we use them.
Next!
Guest
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:13:27 +0300, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:
Almost right. The intention is to stop the heart but the heart starts
back up on its own. If it doesn't, well, it's a bad day for the
patient. People in cardiac arrest aren't helped by a defibrillator.
The best that can be done is CPR, with the hope that the heart will
restart at some point. The defibrillator can only stop a heart and
it's already stopped, so of no use. An AED won't even fire if it
doesn't detect some sort of heart beat. In fact it has to be some
class of V-fib or V-tach that it's designed to correct.
Cardiac defibrillators use DC and time it with the heartbeat to hit
precisely at the right time during the heartbeat to stop it but not
send it _into_ ventricular fibrillation. The energy used is usually
between 100J and 300J. Believe me, even 100J hurts like hell! Done
it several times, with energies from 100J to 300J but they forgot to
check to see if I was conscious once.
On Sun, 4 Aug 2019 23:21:36 +0100, Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com
wrote:
In article <33c74d94-94df-4299-9f85-8e36d07d2d73@googlegroups.com>,
gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com says...
1 kV is not lethal if it isn't 1 kV once a person contacts it and
current is drawn. Much like the shock from grabbing a door knob
after walking across a nylon carpet.
I noticed watching a TV programme on A&E that when they delivered a
defibrillation shock (not meant to be lethal, of course!) the severity
was not in terms of voltage or current but joules.
The idea is to terminate the ventricular fibrillation and then provide
at least one heartbeat, hopefully the body can then generate further
heartbeats.
Almost right. The intention is to stop the heart but the heart starts
back up on its own. If it doesn't, well, it's a bad day for the
patient. People in cardiac arrest aren't helped by a defibrillator.
The best that can be done is CPR, with the hope that the heart will
restart at some point. The defibrillator can only stop a heart and
it's already stopped, so of no use. An AED won't even fire if it
doesn't detect some sort of heart beat. In fact it has to be some
class of V-fib or V-tach that it's designed to correct.
Cardiac defibrillators use DC and time it with the heartbeat to hit
precisely at the right time during the heartbeat to stop it but not
send it _into_ ventricular fibrillation. The energy used is usually
between 100J and 300J. Believe me, even 100J hurts like hell! Done
it several times, with energies from 100J to 300J but they forgot to
check to see if I was conscious once.
Guest
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 09:54:32 +0100, Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com>
wrote:
It's a good idea but the chance of a problem is miniscule. Cardiac
defibrillators work on people with pacemakers, too. Might as well
try, anyway. ;-) EMTs are trained to keep the paddles away from the
pacemaker (direct hits aren't recommended).
>(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Just whack the doorknob quickly.
wrote:
In article <qi7trs$22o$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
I think me and my pacemaker should keep well away from either of those.
It's a good idea but the chance of a problem is miniscule. Cardiac
defibrillators work on people with pacemakers, too. Might as well
try, anyway. ;-) EMTs are trained to keep the paddles away from the
pacemaker (direct hits aren't recommended).
>(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Just whack the doorknob quickly.
M
Mike Coon
Guest
In article <l2qhkel7o1ajaevue5opaa2vugqnfu8gtp@4ax.com>, krw@notreal.com
says...
Of course this is all the modern mechanisation of more romantic myth,
like Frankenstein or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creation_of_Adam
Mike.
says...
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 09:54:32 +0100, Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com
wrote:
In article <qi7trs$22o$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
I think me and my pacemaker should keep well away from either of those.
It's a good idea but the chance of a problem is miniscule. Cardiac
defibrillators work on people with pacemakers, too. Might as well
try, anyway. ;-) EMTs are trained to keep the paddles away from the
pacemaker (direct hits aren't recommended).
(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Just whack the doorknob quickly.
Of course this is all the modern mechanisation of more romantic myth,
like Frankenstein or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creation_of_Adam
Mike.
M
Mike Coon
Guest
In article <acphke5feqk4kcguviald45c8mq0rg7ajd@4ax.com>, krw@notreal.com
says...
There are implanted defibrillators. I had to convince the government
driver agency I did not have one of those before they would authorise me
to carry on driving...
Mike.
says...
Almost right. The intention is to stop the heart but the heart starts
back up on its own. If it doesn't, well, it's a bad day for the
patient. People in cardiac arrest aren't helped by a defibrillator.
The best that can be done is CPR, with the hope that the heart will
restart at some point. The defibrillator can only stop a heart and
it's already stopped, so of no use. An AED won't even fire if it
doesn't detect some sort of heart beat. In fact it has to be some
class of V-fib or V-tach that it's designed to correct.
Cardiac defibrillators use DC and time it with the heartbeat to hit
precisely at the right time during the heartbeat to stop it but not
send it _into_ ventricular fibrillation. The energy used is usually
between 100J and 300J. Believe me, even 100J hurts like hell! Done
it several times, with energies from 100J to 300J but they forgot to
check to see if I was conscious once.
There are implanted defibrillators. I had to convince the government
driver agency I did not have one of those before they would authorise me
to carry on driving...
Mike.
P
Phil Hobbs
Guest
On 8/5/19 10:41 PM, krw@notreal.com wrote:
Or use the back of your hand. Hardly hurts at all.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
On Mon, 5 Aug 2019 09:54:32 +0100, Mike Coon <gravity@mjcoon.plus.com
wrote:
In article <qi7trs$22o$3@gioia.aioe.org>,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org says...
And Tasers are lethal (over 1000 deaths)and a cow fence supply can
also deliver lethality.
I think me and my pacemaker should keep well away from either of those.
It's a good idea but the chance of a problem is miniscule. Cardiac
defibrillators work on people with pacemakers, too. Might as well
try, anyway. ;-) EMTs are trained to keep the paddles away from the
pacemaker (direct hits aren't recommended).
(I may tip-toe over nylon carpets, but that is for comfort!)
Just whack the doorknob quickly.
Or use the back of your hand. Hardly hurts at all.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com