OT: "Thousand Watt Shock"

[Cursitor Doom]

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?



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[Rick C]

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 1:15:12 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

The local paper once had an ad for an ozone generator touting all the health "benefits". I wrote a letter to the editor about how harmful ozone generators can be. The vendor replied with a bunch of pseudo-science which I wanted to address. The paper said they didn't want to encourage back and forth debates so would not publish a reply letter.

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[John Larkin]

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

One of my favorite popular-press engineering units is kW/h, which is
the rate of change of power. Utilities apparently bill people for
this.


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[Clive Arthur]

On 01/08/2019 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

1000 watts would be a killer-watt. I expect the caller didn't have the
chance to deliver the punchline, but then I don't listen to Radio
Alzheimer as it was known when I worked in BH.

Cheers
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[Rick C]

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 2:25:34 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

One of my favorite popular-press engineering units is kW/h, which is
the rate of change of power. Utilities apparently bill people for
this.

I don't think it is literally kW/h. I think it is just delta kW, also called demand charges. This is why a bank of motors are not started all at once.

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 11:59:38 -0700, Rick C wrote:

I don't think it is literally kW/h. I think it is just delta kW, also
called demand charges. This is why a bank of motors are not started all
at once.

I suspect that's more to do with inductive reactance and the stinginess
of companies not wanting to shell out for banks of large capacitors.



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[John Larkin]

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 22:15:43 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 11:59:38 -0700, Rick C wrote:

I don't think it is literally kW/h. I think it is just delta kW, also
called demand charges. This is why a bank of motors are not started all
at once.

I suspect that's more to do with inductive reactance and the stinginess
of companies not wanting to shell out for banks of large capacitors.

It has to do with people with journalism degrees who don't understand
engineering units.

You know, the people who define "million" and "billion" as synonyms.


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[Rick C]

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:15:47 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 11:59:38 -0700, Rick C wrote:

I don't think it is literally kW/h. I think it is just delta kW, also
called demand charges. This is why a bank of motors are not started all
at once.

I suspect that's more to do with inductive reactance and the stinginess
of companies not wanting to shell out for banks of large capacitors.

The power company doesn't charge any different for motors or lightbulbs. They do charge extra to commercial customers based on peak load vs. average. The run up is quite steep.

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[bitrex]

On 8/1/19 2:59 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 2:25:34 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

One of my favorite popular-press engineering units is kW/h, which is
the rate of change of power. Utilities apparently bill people for
this.

I don't think it is literally kW/h. I think it is just delta kW, also called demand charges. This is why a bank of motors are not started all at once.

the unit they usually mean is kWh not kW/h

 

[bitrex]

On 8/1/19 2:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:15:06 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

One of my favorite popular-press engineering units is kW/h, which is
the rate of change of power. Utilities apparently bill people for
this.

Tell them there's no "Daylight Savings Time" either, you can't put
daylight into the Daylight Savings and Loan banking system

and that classic Rush song is called "The Spirit of Radio" not "The
Spirit of the Radio" it's not about a ghost that lives inside a radio.

 

[TTman]

On 01/08/2019 18:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:

One of the few things I stay in touch with since leaving the UK is Radio
2's Jeremy Vine show, available to me nowadays via the internet. Vine is
totally unique among BBC presenters for being genuinely impartial and
betraying no bias towards any of his callers, whom he all treats with the
same respect. Anyway, Vine's on holiday this week, so this woman sat in
for him. One of the features was on this electrician who was sick of
having his van broken into and all his tools stolen at 6k pounds a time,
so he designed a little current-limited inverter to give any potential
thief a thousand volt shock - harmless but impossible to ignore!
After this bloke had explained about the device and what prompted him to
design it, the listeners were allowed to phone in and say their 2p worth
about it.
By the time that item was over, the public's massive ignorance about
matters electrical was revealed. The final caller remarked, "no way would
that thing give a thousand volt shock, if it did it would kill you
instantly; our 240v mains is lethal enough!" This 'expert' went on to
explain: "he must have meant a 1000 WATT shock" to which the lady who was
sitting in for Vine replied, "Ah, thank you so much for clearing that
confusion up."
And that was it. The time allowed had expired and the show ended with no
opportunity for anyone else to properly explain the true situation.
The great British public, eh?

Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...
I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch chips, using
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never pursued it.

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[Cursitor Doom]

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:28:50 +0100, TTman wrote:

> Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...

I've since read other reports that state he cannibalised a cheap Chinese
fly swatter. *If* true, it kind of puts his efforts in a different
perspective.

I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch chips, using
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never pursued
it.

Way back in the dim and distant past I did actually do a similar thing
with the first car I ever owned. But I was 17 at the time and this was
pre-health & safety days, so I just hooked the bodywork up to a live wire
from the 240V mains! Around the same time, one of the local coppers
turned up to take a statement from me about the thefts that had prompted
my ingenious solution. I showed him what I'd done and he told me he
thought it was a great idea! Those were the days (late 60s) when coppers
could use common sense and personal discretion, though. If I did that
today I'd probably be arrested and prosecuted.

One last thing - I used to have terrible problems with the neighbourhood
cats pissing on the car's wheels, but after I rigged up that wire I never
even so much as saw them ever again.



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[Rick C]

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 1:23:32 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:28:50 +0100, TTman wrote:

Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...

I've since read other reports that state he cannibalised a cheap Chinese
fly swatter. *If* true, it kind of puts his efforts in a different
perspective.

I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch chips, using
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never pursued
it.

Way back in the dim and distant past I did actually do a similar thing
with the first car I ever owned. But I was 17 at the time and this was
pre-health & safety days, so I just hooked the bodywork up to a live wire
from the 240V mains! Around the same time, one of the local coppers
turned up to take a statement from me about the thefts that had prompted
my ingenious solution. I showed him what I'd done and he told me he
thought it was a great idea! Those were the days (late 60s) when coppers
could use common sense and personal discretion, though. If I did that
today I'd probably be arrested and prosecuted.

One last thing - I used to have terrible problems with the neighbourhood
cats pissing on the car's wheels, but after I rigged up that wire I never
even so much as saw them ever again.

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and killed someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second degree murder since you were likely committing a felony by setting the trap in the first place. Even then the courts had common sense about such idiotic ideas.

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[Tom Gardner]

On 02/08/19 18:43, Rick C wrote:

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 1:23:32 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:28:50 +0100, TTman wrote:

Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...

I've since read other reports that state he cannibalised a cheap Chinese
fly swatter. *If* true, it kind of puts his efforts in a different
perspective.

I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch chips, using
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never pursued
it.

Way back in the dim and distant past I did actually do a similar thing
with the first car I ever owned. But I was 17 at the time and this was
pre-health & safety days, so I just hooked the bodywork up to a live wire
from the 240V mains! Around the same time, one of the local coppers
turned up to take a statement from me about the thefts that had prompted
my ingenious solution. I showed him what I'd done and he told me he
thought it was a great idea! Those were the days (late 60s) when coppers
could use common sense and personal discretion, though. If I did that
today I'd probably be arrested and prosecuted.

One last thing - I used to have terrible problems with the neighbourhood
cats pissing on the car's wheels, but after I rigged up that wire I never
even so much as saw them ever again.

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and killed someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second degree murder since you were likely committing a felony by setting the trap in the first place. Even then the courts had common sense about such idiotic ideas.

Sometimes CD and his stories make me think of Walter Mitty.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2172e559-ae05-49ed-9432-b3d6efa4d235@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 1:23:32 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:28:50 +0100, TTman wrote:

Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...

I've since read other reports that state he cannibalised a cheap
Chinese

fly swatter. *If* true, it kind of puts his efforts in a
different perspective.

I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch
chips, usin
g
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never
pursued it.

Way back in the dim and distant past I did actually do a similar
thing with the first car I ever owned. But I was 17 at the time
and this was pre-health & safety days, so I just hooked the
bodywork up to a live wire

from the 240V mains! Around the same time, one of the local
coppers turned up to take a statement from me about the thefts
that had prompted

my ingenious solution. I showed him what I'd done and he told me
he thought it was a great idea! Those were the days (late 60s)
when coppers

could use common sense and personal discretion, though. If I did
that today I'd probably be arrested and prosecuted.

One last thing - I used to have terrible problems with the
neighbourhood

cats pissing on the car's wheels, but after I rigged up that wire
I never

even so much as saw them ever again.

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and
killed someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second
degree murder since you were likely committing a felony by setting
the trap in the first place. Even then the courts had common
sense about such idiotic ideas.

You are not permitted in most states AFAIK to place 'booby traps'
on any of your doors or windows on your house or your car.

The reason is that a first responder would be getting hurt trying
to put out a fire by entering your burning house through a booby
trapped window.

When I worked in arcade gaming, the guys doing the collecting would
have 2 or 3 thousand dollars in their trunk safe, but I could not set
HV shock traps on them. In fact, the cops said they cannot even
charge a robber until he actually places cash booty in hand.

I can't believe that I cannot do a number on a guy standing at my
trunk with a wonder bar in his hand.

Where is my home enhanced taser when I need it?

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:43:12 -0700, Rick C wrote:

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and killed
someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second degree murder
since you were likely committing a felony

Woah! Stop right there. I was living in the UK at the time and you don't
commit a "felony" in the UK then or now. You cannot take US laws,
procedures and attitudes and just assume the same kind of system applies
in all other countries!




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[Rick C]

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 8:38:36 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:43:12 -0700, Rick C wrote:

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and killed
someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second degree murder
since you were likely committing a felony

Woah! Stop right there. I was living in the UK at the time and you don't
commit a "felony" in the UK then or now. You cannot take US laws,
procedures and attitudes and just assume the same kind of system applies
in all other countries!

Is there any nit you won't pick? So to be equally pedantic...

"The term felony originated from English common law (from the French medieval word "fĂŠlonie"), to describe an offense that resulted in the confiscation of a convicted person's land and goods, to which additional punishments including capital punishment could be added.[1] Other crimes were called misdemeanors. A felony is traditionally considered a crime of high seriousness, whereas a misdemeanor is regarded as less serious.[2] A felon is a person who has committed a felony. Following conviction of a felony in a court of law, a person may be described as a convicted felon."

I have no idea how this detail relates to the discussion at hand.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 10:38:36 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:43:12 -0700, Rick C wrote:

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and killed
someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second degree murder
since you were likely committing a felony

Woah! Stop right there. I was living in the UK at the time and you don't
commit a "felony" in the UK then or now. You cannot take US laws,
procedures and attitudes and just assume the same kind of system applies
in all other countries!

I didn't start living the UK until the 1970s, and I recall a couple of people going to prison for catching potential burglars in dangerous traps.

It might not have been called a felony, but the legal system didn't tolerate it.

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[Whoey Louie]

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 5:41:49 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2172e559-ae05-49ed-9432-b3d6efa4d235@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 1:23:32 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom
wrote:
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 10:28:50 +0100, TTman wrote:

Neat idea, so long as it's current limit doesn't go wrong...

I've since read other reports that state he cannibalised a cheap
Chinese

fly swatter. *If* true, it kind of puts his efforts in a
different perspective.

I often thought of something similar using capacitive touch
chips, usin
g
the car chasis as one plate and sounding an alarm ... but never
pursued it.

Way back in the dim and distant past I did actually do a similar
thing with the first car I ever owned. But I was 17 at the time
and this was pre-health & safety days, so I just hooked the
bodywork up to a live wire

from the 240V mains! Around the same time, one of the local
coppers turned up to take a statement from me about the thefts
that had prompted

my ingenious solution. I showed him what I'd done and he told me
he thought it was a great idea! Those were the days (late 60s)
when coppers

could use common sense and personal discretion, though. If I did
that today I'd probably be arrested and prosecuted.

One last thing - I used to have terrible problems with the
neighbourhood

cats pissing on the car's wheels, but after I rigged up that wire
I never

even so much as saw them ever again.

Even in the 60s, if you set such a clearly dangerous trap and
killed someone, it would be at least manslaughter if not second
degree murder since you were likely committing a felony by setting
the trap in the first place. Even then the courts had common
sense about such idiotic ideas.


You are not permitted in most states AFAIK to place 'booby traps'
on any of your doors or windows on your house or your car.

The reason is that a first responder would be getting hurt trying
to put out a fire by entering your burning house through a booby
trapped window.

As if that's the only reason.....

When I worked in arcade gaming, the guys doing the collecting would
have 2 or 3 thousand dollars in their trunk safe, but I could not set
HV shock traps on them. In fact, the cops said they cannot even
charge a robber until he actually places cash booty in hand.

Probably not for actual theft, but there certainly are other charges
that could apply, like attempted burglary, if you were caught trying
to break into the safe in the trunk of a car you don't own. But the cops
would typically prefer to let them get further, so the case is stronger
and the charges more serious.

I can't believe that I cannot do a number on a guy standing at my
trunk with a wonder bar in his hand.

Just what we need, an angry hot head who's always wrong, administering
street justice.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:8c5259b7-34c9-446f-8ad6-057f6705a105@googlegroups.com:

Just what we need, an angry hot head who's always wrong,
administering street justice.

When retards like you spout retarded cracks like this, it calls for
you to eat an 0.80" extreme overbore dinner.

That would truly be your basic, simple justice. Run to google now,
child. Go find out what "0.80" extreme overbore means" since I know
you are clueless about it currently. Come on over for breakfast.

Here's a hint: "Face Off".

Naaaah... more like "Head Off".

A new acronym! Instead of FOAD. HOAD!