OT. Talking to an Apple. Losing the will to live ...

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Arfa Daily

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Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need has
now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine that
does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes. You would
think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry photo formats
like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device with the photo
folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop operation. But being Apple,
that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And that's
where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that I find that
will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only allow you 10
transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I haven't found a
single one that just runs without issue. Every time I find one that seems to
install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I tried iphonebrowser. Looks
like it will do the job, but when you run it, it says that a dll file is
missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup. Just download the dll and put
it in the same folder as the exe for iphonebrowser, and magically, it will
all work now ! And does it ? DIF ... "The dll xxxx can't be found ..."
AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here know
any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free, fully
functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just to recap.
iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista. Just need to
be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and drop it into a
folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be used in the
slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi. Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
 
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

> Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my

You need Linux, mate.
 
On 9/21/2013 12:29 PM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
Have you tried the old windows explorer ?
Click to expand...

I use windows explorer to get jepgs off my apple devices.

Also there should be a built-in windows import/export feature in
Explorer that works well with apple devices.
 
Arfa Daily wrote:
Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need
has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine
that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes.
You would think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry
photo formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device
with the photo folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop
operation. But being Apple, that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And
that's where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that
I find that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only
allow you 10 transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I
haven't found a single one that just runs without issue. Every time I
find one that seems to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I
tried iphonebrowser. Looks like it will do the job, but when you run it,
it says that a dll file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup.
Just download the dll and put it in the same folder as the exe for
iphonebrowser, and magically, it will all work now ! And does it ? DIF
... "The dll xxxx can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here
know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free,
fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just
to recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista.
Just need to be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and
drop it into a folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be
used in the slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi.
Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
Click to expand...
I don't have an Ipod touch but on my Iphone I just mount the phone ad a
disc drive under my computer and take the photos off and no need for
itunes at all.
 
On 2013-09-21 17:52:01 +0200, Arfa Daily said:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with
my iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A
need has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another
machine that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have
iTunes. You would think that for the purposes of transferring
non-proprietry photo formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass
storage device with the photo folders visible to allow a simple drag
and drop operation. But being Apple, that of course, seems to be a no,
then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And
that's where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that
I find that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only
allow you 10 transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I
haven't found a single one that just runs without issue. Every time I
find one that seems to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance,
I tried iphonebrowser. Looks like it will do the job, but when you run
it, it says that a dll file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a
writeup. Just download the dll and put it in the same folder as the exe
for iphonebrowser, and magically, it will all work now ! And does it ?
DIF ... "The dll xxxx can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will
to live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on
here know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a
free, fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do.
Just to recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running
Vista. Just need to be able to take a photo from either of the
computers, and drop it into a folder on the iPod where it will be
visible, and can be used in the slideshow app that's native to the
iPod. USB or WiFi. Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
Click to expand...

install dropbox on the ipod and on the pc - it's free and will
synchronize the pictures you want
--

Jean-Yves.
 
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need has
now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine that
does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes.(...)
Click to expand...

Just jailbreak the iPod Touch 2G. Assuming you have the latest
firmware, that would be IOS 4.2.1. If not 4.2.1 update it first.
Instructions:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGEnlXEFh8>
Jailbreak software and firmware:
<http://greenpois0n.com/downloads/>
Use iExplore (Windoze) to transfer files:
<http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

[...]
> And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

Try asking on uk.comp.sys.mac, they are very helpful and knowledgeable.


--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
 
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 10:56:07 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need has
now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine that
does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes.(...)

Just jailbreak the iPod Touch 2G. Assuming you have the latest
firmware, that would be IOS 4.2.1. If not 4.2.1 update it first.
Instructions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGEnlXEFh8
Jailbreak software and firmware:
http://greenpois0n.com/downloads/
Use iExplore (Windoze) to transfer files:
http://www.macroplant.com/iexplorer/
Click to expand...

Oops. iExplorer will not work because it requires the drivers in
iTunes. Instead, try:
<http://www.copytrans.net/copytransmanager.php>
which does NOT require iTunes but is not free. Some more alternatives
to using iTunes:
<http://ios.wonderhowto.com/how-to/put-music-your-iphone-without-using-itunes-0147391/>
See the Cydia based apps near the bottom of the page (which only run
on a jailbroken iPod Touch or iPhone).


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
"Bob Minchin" <bob.minchinREMOVE@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Arfa Daily wrote:
Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need
has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine
that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes.
You would think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry
photo formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device
with the photo folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop
operation. But being Apple, that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And
that's where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that
I find that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only
allow you 10 transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I
haven't found a single one that just runs without issue. Every time I
find one that seems to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I
tried iphonebrowser. Looks like it will do the job, but when you run it,
it says that a dll file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup.
Just download the dll and put it in the same folder as the exe for
iphonebrowser, and magically, it will all work now ! And does it ? DIF
... "The dll xxxx can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here
know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free,
fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just
to recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista.
Just need to be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and
drop it into a folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be
used in the slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi.
Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
I don't have an Ipod touch but on my Iphone I just mount the phone ad a
disc drive under my computer and take the photos off and no need for
itunes at all.
Click to expand...

I need to go the other way and put photos on to it.

Arfa
 
"jeanyves" <jeanyves@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:523dd74d$0$2206$426a74cc@news.free.fr...
On 2013-09-21 17:52:01 +0200, Arfa Daily said:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need
has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine
that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes. You
would think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry photo
formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device with the
photo folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop operation. But
being Apple, that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And that's
where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that I find
that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only allow you 10
transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I haven't found a
single one that just runs without issue. Every time I find one that seems
to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I tried iphonebrowser.
Looks like it will do the job, but when you run it, it says that a dll
file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup. Just download the
dll and put it in the same folder as the exe for iphonebrowser, and
magically, it will all work now ! And does it ? DIF ... "The dll xxxx
can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here
know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free,
fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just to
recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista. Just
need to be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and drop it
into a folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be used in
the slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi. Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(

install dropbox on the ipod and on the pc - it's free and will synchronize
the pictures you want
--

Jean-Yves.
Click to expand...

Doesn't Dropbox require net access ? If so, there won't be any where this
has to be done

Arfa
 
"Cursitor Doom" <cd@notterriblyvalid.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my

You need Linux, mate.
Click to expand...
Unable to use Linux because I don't have a beard, or own any sandals, or a
bike .... :)

Arfa
 
On 21/09/13 20:16, Arfa Daily wrote:
"Cursitor Doom" <cd@notterriblyvalid.org> wrote in message
news:l1kltr$p1k$2@dont-email.me...
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my

You need Linux, mate.


Unable to use Linux because I don't have a beard, or own any sandals, or
a bike .... :)

Arfa
http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20and%20Politics/unix.jpg
Click to expand...


--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.
 
Arfa Daily wrote:

> I need to go the other way and put photos on to it.

Does the Apple Camera Connection Kit work with Pods as well as Pads?
 
"Adrian Tuddenham" <adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:1l9kapb.3slkdt1wo7imiN%adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid...
Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

[...]
And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

Try asking on uk.comp.sys.mac, they are very helpful and knowledgeable.


--
~ Adrian Tuddenham ~
(Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
www.poppyrecords.co.uk
Click to expand...

Thanks. I'll take a look over there. And to Jeff. I have an Apple TV, which
was successfully jailbroken as soon as I got it several years back, and it
continues to work well. I did this because I knew that I wanted it to be a
long term network node for streaming video that would most of the time not
be in a format that it would like i.e. dot AVI. The jailbreak allowed X-Box
Media Centre to be loaded on there, and that plays anything. Also, I can
make it use any shared directory on any machine on the network, as its
streaming source. All works very well. However, my requirement for using the
Touch to display these photos, is a one-off - at least for the moment - so
I really didn't want to mess about with the OS on it.

CopyTrans was one of the pieces of software that I tried, and it works
without the device being jailbroken, but in order to get a properly working
version, you have to pay for it.

Thanks for your input anyway, and I will give it some consideration.

Arfa
 
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:16:43 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
<arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

"Cursitor Doom" <cd@notterriblyvalid.org> wrote in message
news:l1kltr$p1k$2@dont-email.me...
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:52:01 +0100, Arfa Daily wrote:

Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my

You need Linux, mate.

Unable to use Linux because I don't have a beard, or own any sandals, or a
bike .... :)
Arfa
Click to expand...

Yeah, the Linux dress code sucks and is a known problem:
<http://www.zdnet.com/sandals-and-ponytail-set-cramp-linux-1139248447/>
At least you can fake part of the uniform:
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=fake+beard>
Sandals are cheap and you can borrow the kids bicycle. Don't forget
the pony tail. If you can't make the transition, there's always the
Unix UniSuit:
<http://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/91q2/unisuit.html>

Once properly attired, it's now safe to run Linux.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
"Andy Burns" <usenet.jan2013@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote in message
news:R_edndy3WpQ6bqDPnZ2dnUVZ7oWdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
Arfa Daily wrote:

I need to go the other way and put photos on to it.

Does the Apple Camera Connection Kit work with Pods as well as Pads?
Click to expand...

Don't know, but if it uses the dock connector, then probably. There is a pin
on the connector that determines what has been connected, by looking for the
resistance value attached to that pin. Different devices / cables use
different resistor values, and as long as the feature or connection is
supported, then it should be correctly identified by any Apple mobile
device. For instance, I have a universal AV cable, and that is correctly
detected by both my iPod and my iPad.

Arfa
 
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 22:18:35 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> Once properly attired, it's now safe to run Linux.

Surely not if you have to ham it up!



--
M0WYM
Sales @ radiowymsey
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Sales-At-Radio-Wymsey/
http://sales-at-radio-wymsey.ebid.net/
 
Sounds like you might need to register the dll then. Cannot recall the
command, anyone?

Brian

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"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:Cgj%t.87895$rR5.17228@fx27.am4...
Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need
has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine
that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes. You
would think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry photo
formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device with the
photo folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop operation. But being
Apple, that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And that's
where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that I find
that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only allow you 10
transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I haven't found a
single one that just runs without issue. Every time I find one that seems
to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I tried iphonebrowser.
Looks like it will do the job, but when you run it, it says that a dll
file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup. Just download the
dll and put it in the same folder as the exe for iphonebrowser, and
magically, it will all work now ! And does it ? DIF ... "The dll xxxx
can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here
know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free,
fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just to
recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista. Just
need to be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and drop it
into a folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be used in the
slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi. Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
Click to expand...
 
"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
"Bob Minchin" <bob.minchinREMOVE@YOURHATntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:l1kkn8$c57$1@dont-email.me...
Arfa Daily wrote:
Amongst my Apple gear, I have an iPod Touch 2G. It is registered with my
iTunes, and I can transfer photos back and forth via that route. A need
has now arisen to be able to transfer photos to it from another machine
that does not have iTunes, nor does the owner want it to have iTunes.
You would think that for the purposes of transferring non-proprietry
photo formats like .jpg, it would just appear as a mass storage device
with the photo folders visible to allow a simple drag and drop
operation. But being Apple, that of course, seems to be a no, then.

So I went looking for a simple application that would do this. And
that's where it has become truly frustrating. Just about every one that
I find that will run, turns out to be a demo version that will only
allow you 10 transactions or similar. As for the 'real' free ones, I
haven't found a single one that just runs without issue. Every time I
find one that seems to install ok, something goes wrong. For instance, I
tried iphonebrowser. Looks like it will do the job, but when you run it,
it says that a dll file is missing. Onto Google. Yep. There's a writeup.
Just download the dll and put it in the same folder as the exe for
iphonebrowser, and magically, it will all work now ! And does it ? DIF
... "The dll xxxx can't be found ..." AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH !

And I just keep getting crap like this no matter which route I try to go.

I have spent so much time on this that I am seriously losing the will to
live. Am I just being dumb here ? Do any of the 'putah experts on here
know any way that I can do this simply and easily, or know of a free,
fully functional bit of software to facilitate what I need to do. Just
to recap. iPod Touch 2G. PC running Windows 7 and laptop running Vista.
Just need to be able to take a photo from either of the computers, and
drop it into a folder on the iPod where it will be visible, and can be
used in the slideshow app that's native to the iPod. USB or WiFi.
Doesn't matter.

Arfa >:-(
I don't have an Ipod touch but on my Iphone I just mount the phone ad a
disc drive under my computer and take the photos off and no need for > itunes at all.


I need to go the other way and put photos on to it.

Arfa
Click to expand...

Get yourself an iPad SD card reader. Just a few quid off eBay.

Tim
 
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