OT: Supreme Court strikes down NY\'s unconstitutionally restrictive gun law...

On 6/23/2022 9:28 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

SED is ruined. Pity.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

JL thinks that SED has been \"ruined\" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
America has been \"ruined\" since 1865. Tough times.

Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
Of Idiots.
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I\'m still designing electronics if it makes you feel any better but I\'ve
been too busy working lately to contribute much, sorry \'bout that.

But I\'m not close to retirement age by a long shot and by the look of
things with the market etc, I\'m gonna need all the working years I can
get...
 
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:56:45 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

SED is ruined. Pity.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

JL thinks that SED has been \"ruined\" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
America has been \"ruined\" since 1865. Tough times.
Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
Of Idiots.

OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don\'t make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A). I can add more wires and using the yellow one.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/144578327967
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Sure. Use the yellow one, for a minute or so maybe. Fat wire will heat
sink the connection.

This board has fastons for 48 volts at 25 amps from a nearby power
supply, but we\'re using two faston lugs and two wires for +48 and
another pair for ground. The wire resistance helps to equalize the
currents, and there will be lots of air.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bc2dg6njz1wi2hb/P939A_top.jpg?raw=1

Air flow makes a huge difference to connector heating.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:07:05 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/23/2022 2:15 PM, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
NYC doesn\'t even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
The situation isn\'t great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but \"runaway crime\" is one more of Flyguy\'s fatuous exaggerations.

Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn\'t going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York\'s politicians don\'t seem to fancy it.
The Republicunt\'s arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn\'t also
want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
better armed than anyone else is.

This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
black people. So they couldn\'t help but worship them and were like \"Oh!
Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!\"

Police: \"Citizen! Papiere, bitte!\"

Republicunt: \"Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!\"

One word that won\'t pass you fucker\'s lips is the \"Constitution.\" NY\'s law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don\'t like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN\'T pass Constitutional muster.

I think any rational e.g. transgender person in a \"red state\" would be
armed to the teeth these days, Uzi, 50 cal desert eagle, grenade
launcher, you name it. There are wingnuts around.
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The risk of a well-behaved trans being attacked is probably below 1
PPM/year. Riding a bicycle is far more dangerous.

There are about 40 shootings in Chicago on an average weekend. Nobody
much cares.



--

Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar
 
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:cd19e6cb-
d3ed-4846-ba08-506fc0ce632fn@googlegroups.com:

> Flyguy has strange ideas about what might constitute sanity.

NYC made laws in the \'80s where one had to have the gun, disassembled,
in their trunk, and no ammo is allowed to be there.

Also carrying concealed was always illegal in all states until a few
started this stupid shit.

In Colorado, it was legal to carry, IF it was exposed and obvious,
absolutely not concealed. However, no one did so except on their
ranches, etc. Nobody did so in public places in cities, etc. It was
an invitation to get harassed over it.
 
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

SED is ruined. Pity.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
JL thinks that SED has been \"ruined\" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
America has been \"ruined\" since 1865. Tough times.
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Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still. But Lyin\' Biden\'s antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.
 
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:05:42 PM UTC-6, John Doe wrote:
There\'s been lots of noise lately, but there is always something.

Anybody can filter properly labeled off-topic posts, but John doesn\'t
because John posts off-topic from time to time...



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John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990..
NYC doesn\'t even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
The situation isn\'t great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but \"runaway crime\" is one more of Flyguy\'s fatuous exaggerations.

Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn\'t going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York\'s politicians don\'t seem to fancy it.
The Republicunt\'s arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn\'t also
want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
better armed than anyone else is.

This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
black people. So they couldn\'t help but worship them and were like \"Oh!
Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!\"

Police: \"Citizen! Papiere, bitte!\"

Republicunt: \"Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!\"

One word that won\'t pass you fucker\'s lips is the \"Constitution.\" NY\'s law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don\'t like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN\'T pass Constitutional muster.


SED is ruined. Pity.
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Oh, COME ON, JOHN! You have on more than one occasion indulged in off-topic discussions, that YOU initiated. I am not going to waste my time dredging them up.
 
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
NYC doesn\'t even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
The situation isn\'t great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but \"runaway crime\" is one more of Flyguy\'s fatuous exaggerations.

Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn\'t going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York\'s politicians don\'t seem to fancy it.
The Republicunt\'s arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn\'t also
want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
better armed than anyone else is.

This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
black people. So they couldn\'t help but worship them and were like \"Oh!
Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!\"

Police: \"Citizen! Papiere, bitte!\"

Republicunt: \"Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!\"

One word that won\'t pass you fucker\'s lips is the \"Constitution.\" NY\'s law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading.
Click to expand...

Flyguy can understand any document he reads as supporting his chosen point of view. He doesn\'t really understand that more intelligent readers can actually understand what the document was designed to say.

> If you don\'t like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN\'T pass Constitutional muster.

Flyguy wants the everybody to understand the US Constitution in exactly the same way he does - not merely badly, but badly in a way that fits his demented delusions.

There\'s nothing all that special about the US Constitution. It\'s an old moderate enlightenment document, which means that it wasn\'t properly thought out when it was first written, and it is clearly in need of extensive revision.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 6/24/2022 6:07 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
NYC doesn\'t even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
The situation isn\'t great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but \"runaway crime\" is one more of Flyguy\'s fatuous exaggerations.

Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn\'t going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York\'s politicians don\'t seem to fancy it.
The Republicunt\'s arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn\'t also
want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
better armed than anyone else is.

This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
black people. So they couldn\'t help but worship them and were like \"Oh!
Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!\"

Police: \"Citizen! Papiere, bitte!\"

Republicunt: \"Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!\"

One word that won\'t pass you fucker\'s lips is the \"Constitution.\" NY\'s law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading.

Flyguy can understand any document he reads as supporting his chosen point of view. He doesn\'t really understand that more intelligent readers can actually understand what the document was designed to say.

If you don\'t like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN\'T pass Constitutional muster.

Flyguy wants the everybody to understand the US Constitution in exactly the same way he does - not merely badly, but badly in a way that fits his demented delusions.

There\'s nothing all that special about the US Constitution. It\'s an old moderate enlightenment document, which means that it wasn\'t properly thought out when it was first written, and it is clearly in need of extensive revision.
Click to expand...

The current Supreme Court\'s abilities to \"interpret the Constitution\" in
a rational way are so well-regarded that its popularity is at an
historic low:

<https://news.gallup.com/poll/394103/confidence-supreme-court-sinks-historic-low.aspx>
 
On 6/23/2022 11:55 PM, Flyguy wrote:
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

SED is ruined. Pity.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
JL thinks that SED has been \"ruined\" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
America has been \"ruined\" since 1865. Tough times.

Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still. But Lyin\' Biden\'s antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.
Click to expand...

More astute observers than Flyguy would notice that the trade-off the
\"sane\" SC is handing out for knocking down restrictive gun legislation
at the state level, is meanwhile ensuring police at all levels have as
much immunity as possible from your objections if they decide to simply
ignore what the Constitution says about your rights.

That is to say the 2nd Amendment is meaningless without the 4th, and the
4th was pretty threadbare to begin with, and gets more so every time
_fascist_ right-wingers in the judicial system or otherwise get a hold
of it.

<https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-raises-barrier-to-suing-law-enforcement>
 
On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:56:52 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:

> OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don\'t make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A).

Sure, a surge or ten won\'t hurt it. Even a 20A circuit breaker will take 30A for a moment.
The problem arises when elevated temperature, or arcing during connect/disconnect,
or just mechanical integrity (weakened springs) degrades performance in some way.
If you really want long-term passage of higher current, consider connectors in parallel,
just as you would if a multipin connector had to supply higher current than its contacts
were rated for.

You can\'t reliably crimp a fatter wire than carries 24A continuously, is my assumption of the
basis for a 24A rating.
 
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