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Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 16.39.39 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
https://youtu.be/VTe0cdxdSEo
On 12/27/2021 8:47 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 16.39.39 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
https://youtu.be/VTe0cdxdSEo
Yes, they\'ve started relocating ATMs to the *interior* of stores
to make it that much harder to access them \"after hours\".
Brute force is hard to defend against (it is, typically, how
the military operates).
There\'s always a fine line between making this sort of thing
(e.g., a phone) easily accessible to cater to its intended
customer base vs. *too* easy for thieves to access.
Of course, the operator can also take steps to make such thefts
less profitable. E.g., pare down the amount of cash left
inside \"after hours\". But, that adds to servicing costs.
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 17.33.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/27/2021 8:47 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 16.39.39 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
https://youtu.be/VTe0cdxdSEo
Yes, they\'ve started relocating ATMs to the *interior* of stores
to make it that much harder to access them \"after hours\".
Brute force is hard to defend against (it is, typically, how
the military operates).
There\'s always a fine line between making this sort of thing
(e.g., a phone) easily accessible to cater to its intended
customer base vs. *too* easy for thieves to access.
Of course, the operator can also take steps to make such thefts
less profitable. E.g., pare down the amount of cash left
inside \"after hours\". But, that adds to servicing costs.
if the ATM is moved or broken into just dump red dye on the bills making them useless ..
On 12/27/2021 10:04 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 17.33.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/27/2021 8:47 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 16.39.39 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
https://youtu.be/VTe0cdxdSEo
Yes, they\'ve started relocating ATMs to the *interior* of stores
to make it that much harder to access them \"after hours\".
Brute force is hard to defend against (it is, typically, how
the military operates).
There\'s always a fine line between making this sort of thing
(e.g., a phone) easily accessible to cater to its intended
customer base vs. *too* easy for thieves to access.
Of course, the operator can also take steps to make such thefts
less profitable. E.g., pare down the amount of cash left
inside \"after hours\". But, that adds to servicing costs.
if the ATM is moved or broken into just dump red dye on the bills making them useless ..
I don\'t know how bills are \"packaged\" inside the ATM.
Likely in a way that makes them convenient to count and dispense.
(it\'s different in a bill validator where all you want to do is *capture*
the bill)
I suspect you could embed a die packet that will stain the stack
of bills \"from the side\" to ensure all are tainted. But, that
mechanism would have to NOT require the cooperation of the staff that
loads the machine as it could be omitted/done incorrectly.
[Maybe if the bills came \"prepackaged\" from the bank?]
And, you would have to ensure would-be thieves understood that
this mechanism was in place (as well as ensuring that it would
function in the absence of power as a thief could arrange for
power to be out -- or, strike DURING a prolonged outage).
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 19:23:30 -0800 (PST), Dean Hoffman
deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
I\'d expect that more are shutting down because of Amazon.
On Saturday, December 25, 2021 at 10:23:34 PM UTC-5, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
I wonder how much they lose from theft in the warehouse and theft in delivery?
On 12/27/2021 10:04 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 17.33.32 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/27/2021 8:47 AM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 16.39.39 UTC+1 skrev Don Y:
On 12/25/2021 8:23 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Some are shutting down because of robbery and others due to
an increase in online shopping. Companies are losing $65 billion
per year due to shop lifting.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/these-stores-are-closing-due-to-looting-and-lost-profits
When we designed the \"arcomatic\" (automated, self-serve gas station),
we had an \"island terminal\" at which customers could pay for their
purchases (this long before gas pumps had integrated credit card
readers
or bill validators).
The device was just a largish SBC with a (text!) display and keypad
and I/Os for the bill validator, card reader, network interface, etc.
When the \"enclosure\" arrived, it was fabricated from 1/4\" thick steel
and larger than a refrigerator.
I chuckled thinking how \"overkill\" the solution -- surely a smaller
(less costly) box could have been designed!?
It was then pointed out to me that they had to guard against folks
ramming the enclosure (accidentally or intentionally) as it sat out
on the islands alongside the gas pumps.
It wasn\'t long after that when the evening news started having
stories of crash-and-grabs of (entire) ATMs, etc.
In hindsight, this was to be expected. I recall AT&T\'s \"fortress\"
phone being a common theft/hacking target. Virtually impregnable,
if you were interested in one, you physically would cut it out
of the booth and take it home intact!
[Thankfully, electric power was available in the booth so you
could power an electric saw to cut the support members!]
https://youtu.be/VTe0cdxdSEo
Yes, they\'ve started relocating ATMs to the *interior* of stores
to make it that much harder to access them \"after hours\".
Brute force is hard to defend against (it is, typically, how
the military operates).
There\'s always a fine line between making this sort of thing
(e.g., a phone) easily accessible to cater to its intended
customer base vs. *too* easy for thieves to access.
Of course, the operator can also take steps to make such thefts
less profitable. E.g., pare down the amount of cash left
inside \"after hours\". But, that adds to servicing costs.
if the ATM is moved or broken into just dump red dye on the bills
making them useless ..
I don\'t know how bills are \"packaged\" inside the ATM.
Likely in a way that makes them convenient to count and dispense.
(it\'s different in a bill validator where all you want to do is *capture*
the bill)
I suspect you could embed a die packet that will stain the stack
of bills \"from the side\" to ensure all are tainted. But, that
mechanism would have to NOT require the cooperation of the staff that
loads the machine as it could be omitted/done incorrectly.
[Maybe if the bills came \"prepackaged\" from the bank?]
And, you would have to ensure would-be thieves understood that
this mechanism was in place (as well as ensuring that it would
function in the absence of power as a thief could arrange for
power to be out -- or, strike DURING a prolonged outage).
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 11:31:27 AM UTC-6, Don Y wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
I\'ve been watching the show The First Forty Eight. It follows homicide
detectives. One group is in Tulsa, OK and the other in New Orleans. One
of the first things they do is walk around to find any cameras that might
be on buildings around the scene.
It sounds like there are more homicides than last year in most of our big cities. It\'s
hard to understand the stupid things people kill for.
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
On 12/27/2021 4:15 PM, Don Y wrote:
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all
the time like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021
probably don\'t have that much more readily-accessible currency on
hand at any particular time than the average large convenience store;
the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day to my local branch and I
figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to a branch bank
to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in
jewelry stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls
are \"display models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a
place like that, and it\'s not information I suppose any particular
store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of
smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
A friend\'s dad got nabbed bringing 40 cartons of smokes purchased in VA
into MD the penalty for a first offense is $150. per carton.
Filthy habit and it probably still didn\'t convince him to quit.
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
Someone who knew what to look for could probably strip any valuable
spare parts off all of them in a few minutes, like the batteries or air
filters, maybe. Put them up on eBay or Craigslist, \"NOS.\"
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:15:06 -0700, Don Y
blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
There are videos of guys sticking big Dewalt table saws and such like
into carts and just walking/running out the door.
If the workers are told not to intervene then locking them up is one
way to reduce losses. They\'re also working on being able to remotely
brick them.
However, when you go into a store and all the wrenches and such like
are in locked cabinets it makes you want to not return to that
particular store.
On 12/27/2021 5:16 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:15:06 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
There are videos of guys sticking big Dewalt table saws and such like
into carts and just walking/running out the door.
If the workers are told not to intervene then locking them up is one
way to reduce losses. They\'re also working on being able to remotely
brick them.
However, when you go into a store and all the wrenches and such like
are in locked cabinets it makes you want to not return to that
particular store.
Nah they only people the big-box retail stores tends to really want the
book thrown at if they\'re caught stealing is their own employees.
Management is unlikely to give an employee even a 1% cash reward if they
prevent $5000 worth of stuff from being stolen but God help that
employee if they steal $50.
How much they\'ve actually had to pay out in practice for employeesmandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 23.38.06 UTC+1 skrev bitrex:
On 12/27/2021 5:16 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:15:06 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
There are videos of guys sticking big Dewalt table saws and such like
into carts and just walking/running out the door.
If the workers are told not to intervene then locking them up is one
way to reduce losses. They\'re also working on being able to remotely
brick them.
However, when you go into a store and all the wrenches and such like
are in locked cabinets it makes you want to not return to that
particular store.
Nah they only people the big-box retail stores tends to really want the
book thrown at if they\'re caught stealing is their own employees.
Management is unlikely to give an employee even a 1% cash reward if they
prevent $5000 worth of stuff from being stolen but God help that
employee if they steal $50.
they don\'t want to get stuck with the bill for an employee getting hurt
trying to stop a thief
On 12/27/2021 5:49 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
mandag den 27. december 2021 kl. 23.38.06 UTC+1 skrev bitrex:
On 12/27/2021 5:16 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:15:06 -0700, Don Y
blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 12/27/2021 12:51 PM, bitrex wrote:
Capture/conviction rates for bank robberies are high -- yet
folks still try to rob banks! Clearly, \"the word\" hasn\'t
gotten out sufficiently to deter them...
They think banks still keep large amounts of cash sitting around all the time
like Bonnie & Clyde days, when many bank branches in 2021 probably don\'t have
that much more readily-accessible currency on hand at any particular time than
the average large convenience store; the Brinks truck does a couple runs a day
to my local branch and I figure that is mostly pulling cash out, not many go to
a branch bank to do large cash withdrawals, anymore.
I imagine not many go to make large cash *deposits*, either!
When I use cash as a form of payment (esp for big ticket items)
it\'s almost as if they are afraid to handle it.
I\'ve tended to assume much of the jewelry you see in display cases in jewelry
stores in relatively insecure locations like shopping malls are \"display
models\" but I\'ve never bought high-end jewelry from a place like that, and it\'s
not information I suppose any particular store gives out to random people.
There are increasingly more common thefts of \"other stuff\". Cigarettes
being one \"high value, low mass\" item (a friend said a carton of smokes is
close to $90? That sounds high... why not just snort coke? :-/ )
You can get a feel for what stores consider as high theft (value) items
by seeing what they keep locked up. E.g., Ace tends to keep it\'s small
hand tools in a locked display case -- no doubt they would grow legs,
otherwise.
OTOH, I noticed Home Despot had gensets in a locked case. Do folks often
slip one under their shirt and waltz out of the store??!
There are videos of guys sticking big Dewalt table saws and such like
into carts and just walking/running out the door.
If the workers are told not to intervene then locking them up is one
way to reduce losses. They\'re also working on being able to remotely
brick them.
However, when you go into a store and all the wrenches and such like
are in locked cabinets it makes you want to not return to that
particular store.
Nah they only people the big-box retail stores tends to really want the
book thrown at if they\'re caught stealing is their own employees.
Management is unlikely to give an employee even a 1% cash reward if they
prevent $5000 worth of stuff from being stolen but God help that
employee if they steal $50.
they don\'t want to get stuck with the bill for an employee getting hurt
trying to stop a thief
How much they\'ve actually had to pay out in practice for employees
getting injured in this circumstance before whenever whatever chain made
a policy about it IDK, I bet it was asymptotically close to zero dollars.