OT: replacement PC fan, UK

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Terry Pinnell

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My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
 
Terry Pinnell wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

The shortest cut is to nip to your local PC shop and grab their scrap
Click to expand...
PSUs. The fans might need testing, but they're a good source - otherwise
a new PSU is cheaper than buying a fan from FEC or RS.

Steve
 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52:50 +0000, Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.
Click to expand...
Go to: www.ebuyer.com and check out product code: EBUY8CF

Also they have other fans: http://tinyurl.com/37x9b

sPoNiX
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
Click to expand...

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Fans_47.html


One of the fans on the OC site that I personally like are these lil gems,
and for only 5 quid U cant go wrong (dont forget shipping)
http://www.coolermaster.com.br/index.php?LT=&Language_s=&url_place=product_list&p_class=465
...

The other guy was correct too, a scrap power supply will usually yeild a
good fan if you want to put a header on it to put in your case. I currently
use 2 scrap fans and 3 of the red led fans. If you find a PanaFlo fan in
your searching (here in the uk, and not ebay) then please post back :)
 
In message <ka5060ls8prrc6198cgdgnidegmr9q306k@4ax.com>, Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> writes
My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing).
Click to expand...
A drop of oil can extend the life for months. You usually need to
remove the fan and pierce the paper label covering the bearing.

--
Syd Rumpo
 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52:50 +0000, Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK

Hello Terry,
Click to expand...
what is all this online and catalogues hoo haa?
You will get ripped off. Us hobbyists have to watch
the pennies. Don't you have Saturday/Sunday
computer markets like car boot markets near
where you live? I am sure you could walk away
with a nice new power supply for less than a fiver.
You could even ask a computer shop for an armful
of dud power supplies for a couple of quid if they are
mean, or no money at all if they are nice, to rob the fans.
Cheerio,
John Crighton
Sydney
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote (in <ka5060ls8prrc6198cgdgnidegmr9q306k@
4ax.com>) about 'OT: replacement PC fan, UK', on Tue, 23 Mar 2004:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend please?
I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes.
Click to expand...
Yes, but the limit is rather a large number. You'd do better to go to a
shop (a small shop, rather than a chain) with the old fan, and compare
new with old to make sure you get a good match.

This measures 80cm
Click to expand...
probably not (;-)


--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Pinnell
terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote (in <ka5060ls8prrc6198cgdgnidegmr9q306k@
4ax.com>) about 'OT: replacement PC fan, UK', on Tue, 23 Mar 2004:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend please?
I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes.

Yes, but the limit is rather a large number. You'd do better to go to a
shop (a small shop, rather than a chain) with the old fan, and compare
new with old to make sure you get a good match.

This measures 80cm

probably not (;-)
Click to expand...
....and my computer is an IBM 1401 <g>. (The 650 RAMAC is in the
shed/workshop.)

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
 
sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52:50 +0000, Terry Pinnell
terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

Go to: www.ebuyer.com and check out product code: EBUY8CF

Also they have other fans: http://tinyurl.com/37x9b

sPoNiX
Click to expand...
Many thanks. Those *are* cheap! I bought two, at 0.58 UKP each, and
with delivery and tax paid 3.50 UKP (6.40 USD).

OK, I'm not expecting much by way of quality; what have they got, one
ball-bearing?. But it would cost me more than that to drive to the
nearest store and back!

BTW, I only narrowly resisted spending another couple of hundred on
other tempting stuff <g>.

-------

Thanks to all respondents.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
 
john_c@tpg.com.au (John Crighton) wrote:

Hello Terry,
what is all this online and catalogues hoo haa?
You will get ripped off. Us hobbyists have to watch
the pennies. Don't you have Saturday/Sunday
computer markets like car boot markets near
where you live? I am sure you could walk away
with a nice new power supply for less than a fiver.
You could even ask a computer shop for an armful
of dud power supplies for a couple of quid if they are
mean, or no money at all if they are nice, to rob the fans.
Click to expand...
See my follow-up reporting two new ones for 3.50 UKP!

BTW, are the fans inside PSUs accessible/replacable? And similar in
size to te 80 mm sqauer of my case fan? That's mounted just below the
PSU, on rear of case.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
 
"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Fans_47.html


One of the fans on the OC site that I personally like are these lil gems,
and for only 5 quid U cant go wrong (dont forget shipping)
http://www.coolermaster.com.br/index.php?LT=&Language_s=&url_place=product_list&p_class=465
..

The other guy was correct too, a scrap power supply will usually yeild a
good fan if you want to put a header on it to put in your case. I currently
use 2 scrap fans and 3 of the red led fans. If you find a PanaFlo fan in
your searching (here in the uk, and not ebay) then please post back :)
Click to expand...
Thanks, will file for future reference. See my follow-up.

BTW, do people actually buy fans decorated with LEDs? Why? And how do
they see the LEDs if the fan is mounted on rear panel?

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:56:45 +0000, the renowned Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

"rstlne" <.@text.news.virgin.net> wrote:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Fans_47.html


One of the fans on the OC site that I personally like are these lil gems,
and for only 5 quid U cant go wrong (dont forget shipping)
http://www.coolermaster.com.br/index.php?LT=&Language_s=&url_place=product_list&p_class=465
..

The other guy was correct too, a scrap power supply will usually yeild a
good fan if you want to put a header on it to put in your case. I currently
use 2 scrap fans and 3 of the red led fans. If you find a PanaFlo fan in
your searching (here in the uk, and not ebay) then please post back :)

Thanks, will file for future reference. See my follow-up.

BTW, do people actually buy fans decorated with LEDs? Why?
Click to expand...
Sure:
http://www.bigfootcomputers.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Bigfoot&Category_Code=99.1

Why? I guess they think they look cool.

And how do
they see the LEDs if the fan is mounted on rear panel?
Click to expand...
Some cases have an extra fan in the side panel.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:coj060ls6icp3hk212k3e3upid4m21s4j2@4ax.com...
john_c@tpg.com.au (John Crighton) wrote:

Hello Terry,
what is all this online and catalogues hoo haa?
You will get ripped off. Us hobbyists have to watch
the pennies. Don't you have Saturday/Sunday
computer markets like car boot markets near
where you live? I am sure you could walk away
with a nice new power supply for less than a fiver.
You could even ask a computer shop for an armful
of dud power supplies for a couple of quid if they are
mean, or no money at all if they are nice, to rob the fans.

See my follow-up reporting two new ones for 3.50 UKP!

BTW, are the fans inside PSUs accessible/replacable? And similar in
size to te 80 mm sqauer of my case fan? That's mounted just below the
PSU, on rear of case.

--
Terry, West Sussex, UK
Click to expand...
Yea, But you find that you cant reverse them all, as "most" only have
mounting holes on one side. But that's generally not an issue as some of
the newer cases have the clips that go far enough to reach mounting holes on
the back of the fan.

Some psu's have a 2 wire connector where others are directly connected. The
connector blocks from maplin are just pennies
 
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 14:50:10 +0000, Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:


Many thanks. Those *are* cheap! I bought two, at 0.58 UKP each, and
with delivery and tax paid 3.50 UKP (6.40 USD).
Click to expand...
It's incredible isn't it? The two fans cost about a quid but VAT and
postage adds another Ł2.50!

sPoNiX
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:g7j060dob5mad8u21tkdhoiv0mkqqpj138@4ax.com...
sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote:

On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 10:52:50 +0000, Terry Pinnell
terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

Go to: www.ebuyer.com and check out product code: EBUY8CF

Also they have other fans: http://tinyurl.com/37x9b

sPoNiX

Many thanks. Those *are* cheap! I bought two, at 0.58 UKP each, and
with delivery and tax paid 3.50 UKP (6.40 USD).

OK, I'm not expecting much by way of quality; what have they got, one
ball-bearing?. But it would cost me more than that to drive to the
nearest store and back!

BTW, I only narrowly resisted spending another couple of hundred on
other tempting stuff <g>.
Click to expand...
I've bought stuff from ebuyer and found they're pretty good overall.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millennium
http://www.theconsensus.org
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:coj060ls6icp3hk212k3e3upid4m21s4j2@4ax.com...
BTW, are the fans inside PSUs accessible/replacable? And similar in
size to te 80 mm sqauer of my case fan? That's mounted just below the
PSU, on rear of case.
Click to expand...
Yes, they are. Easy to access, just take off the PSU cover, the size should
match exactly unless you have some uncommon sort of PSU / case. The only
thing about PSU fans is how they are connected to the PCB. The connector
will not fit, so you've got to cut it off, squeeze the wires into a HDD
power connector and fix them in place with duct tape. That's all. Myself, I
was using a PSU fan this way for nearly a year until last summer. Because of
the heat, I than replaced it with a more powerful, slightly nonstandard 90mm
one.

Dimitrij
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Terry Pinnell
<terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote (in <coj060ls6icp3hk212k3e3upid4m21s4j2@
4ax.com>) about 'OT: replacement PC fan, UK', on Tue, 23 Mar 2004:
BTW, are the fans inside PSUs accessible/replacable?
Click to expand...
PSU are very compact. You may well find that you can only get the fan
out by dismantling most of the electronics. OTOH, the fan might almost
fall out.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
Steve Taylor wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote:

My case fan is noisy again (bearings plainly failing). Anyone here
bought a replacement online from a UK supplier and can recommend
please? I'm assuming they come in limited standard sizes. This
measures 80cm between fitting points (not screws, 2-part plastic
push-in thingies).

Otherwise I'll start going through the catalogues, but a shortcut
would be appreciated please.

The shortest cut is to nip to your local PC shop and grab their scrap
PSUs. The fans might need testing, but they're a good source -
otherwise a new PSU is cheaper than buying a fan from FEC or RS.

I can support this idea, but keep in mind that--IME--the most common
Click to expand...
(physical) pc repair has been fan replacement. I prefer to buy new fans or
clean/relubricate the old ones. Cheap/defective fans are the *cause* of
many p.s./cpu failures. At the very least, select your dud supplies by
sticking something into the fan hole and rotating the blades. Compare the
'feel' to a new fan. Reject any which exhibit any sign of stiffness or
noise.

jak
> Steve
 
"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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sPoNiX@yahoo.com (sPoNiX) wrote:

OK, I'm not expecting much by way of quality; what have they got, one
ball-bearing?. But it would cost me more than that to drive to the
nearest store and back!
Click to expand...
I've found that the majority of fans, even the bigger ones in machines such
as Automatic Tellers, have NO ball bearings, but rather bushings. These tend
to seize up, which explains their high failure rate. I found that as far as
PCs, even the fans advertised as "ball bearings" may have only bushings. It
never ceased to amaze me why an expensive piece of equipment such as an ATM,
or even a processor, uses an el-cheapo fan which is prone to breakdown. The
trouble with a seized up bushing is that the fan does not die, but rather
gets super hot, adding to the overheating problem of the processor/device.

Henry
 
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:59:45 +1100, the renowned "Henry Mydlarz"
<henspammyd@optushome.com.au> wrote:
I've found that the majority of fans, even the bigger ones in machines such
as Automatic Tellers, have NO ball bearings, but rather bushings. These tend
to seize up, which explains their high failure rate. I found that as far as
PCs, even the fans advertised as "ball bearings" may have only bushings. It
never ceased to amaze me why an expensive piece of equipment such as an ATM,
or even a processor, uses an el-cheapo fan which is prone to breakdown. The
trouble with a seized up bushing is that the fan does not die, but rather
gets super hot, adding to the overheating problem of the processor/device.

Henry
Click to expand...
The difference in purchase price between the two types of fans is only
a dime or two. Sad.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
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