OT: OS for 186 computer

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MNQ

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Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?

Thanks for any help and apologies again for the OT post.

Naveed
 
MNQ wrote:
Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?
Click to expand...
You might like SEAL and FreeDOS:

<http://www.freedos.org/>
<http://sealsystem.sourceforge.net/>

Paul Burke
 
"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c4rbld$53u$1@rdel.co.uk...
Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and
am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor.
Click to expand...
W31 need 386 to run in enhanced mode, but in standard mode run in 286.


Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download
from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?
Click to expand...

www.oldversion.com
www.oldos.org
 
But I need it to run on a 186. Is there a way to do this?


"Eduardo" <abdulai@tutopia.com> wrote in message
news:c4rhp1$2l4e9e$1@ID-202680.news.uni-berlin.de...
"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c4rbld$53u$1@rdel.co.uk...
Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable
in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will
run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and
am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have
tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor.

W31 need 386 to run in enhanced mode, but in standard mode run in 286.


Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download
from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?



www.oldversion.com
www.oldos.org
Click to expand...
 
Eduardo <abdulai@tutopia.com> says...
[snip]
Eduardo, the original poster chose this subject:
Subject: OT: OS for 186 computer
yet when you replied you changed the subject to
Subject: Re: OS for 186 computer
The purpose of the "OT" is to let people know that the post
is off-topic - in this case that it wasn't about electronics
design. You shouldn't have removed the OT in your reply.

BTW, while "OT:" is O.K., "[OT]" is better. The first may be
a subset of a subject line.

To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
a Pentium. Also, the OP mentioned a IPAQ 2210, which doesn't
contain a 80186. It has an Intel XScale processor and runs the
PocketPC OS.

Also see http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/resourcepage/1099/c109r13.asp
 
I did say in my origional post that the OS would run in a dos emulator but
did not make it clear that the DOS is run in a 186/188 PC emulator. So any
information on if it would be possible to run a windows/Linux OS would be
appreciated.

Thanks

Naveed


< @ . > wrote in message news:2eidneeBFrGfy-zdRVn-vw@speakeasy.net...
Eduardo <abdulai@tutopia.com> says...
[snip]
Eduardo, the original poster chose this subject:
Subject: OT: OS for 186 computer
yet when you replied you changed the subject to
Subject: Re: OS for 186 computer
The purpose of the "OT" is to let people know that the post
is off-topic - in this case that it wasn't about electronics
design. You shouldn't have removed the OT in your reply.

BTW, while "OT:" is O.K., "[OT]" is better. The first may be
a subset of a subject line.

To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
a Pentium. Also, the OP mentioned a IPAQ 2210, which doesn't
contain a 80186. It has an Intel XScale processor and runs the
PocketPC OS.

Also see
http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/resourcepage/1099/c109r13.asp
Click to expand...
 
< @ . > wrote in message news:2eidneeBFrGfy-zdRVn-vw@speakeasy.net...
Eduardo <abdulai@tutopia.com> says...
[snip]
Eduardo, the original poster chose this subject:
Subject: OT: OS for 186 computer
yet when you replied you changed the subject to
Subject: Re: OS for 186 computer
The purpose of the "OT" is to let people know that the post
is off-topic - in this case that it wasn't about electronics
design. You shouldn't have removed the OT in your reply.
Click to expand...
If the subject start with XX: Outlook automatically remove it and replace
for Re:
Was not my intention.
 
"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c4rbld$53u$1@rdel.co.uk...
Hi All

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and
am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor.
Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download
from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?
Click to expand...
Windows 3.0 in "Real Mode" or lower (Windows 2.x and 1.x do
exist), with a bit of luck you will find a copy on the web.
Still not free, but will MS care about Windows 1.x pirates?

Dimitrij
 
< @ . > wrote in message news:2eidneeBFrGfy-zdRVn-vw@speakeasy.net...
To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
^^^^^^^^^
a Pentium.
Click to expand...
This is self-contradictory, because a 186 (and 188) is just an
8086 (or 8088) with on-chip peripherals and a few address decoders.
It's designed for embedded apps, but apparently never really took
off; at least I haven't heard of them much lately. I worked with
a 186 once, and it took ordinary 8086 code. Since Linux is written
in C, I can't think of a reason why it couldn't be done, although
preemptive multi-tasking might be a little hairy. =:-O

Cheers!
Rich
 
Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:
@ . > wrote in message news:2eidneeBFrGfy-zdRVn-vw@speakeasy.net...

To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
^^^^^^^^^
a Pentium.

This is self-contradictory, because a 186 (and 188) is just an
8086 (or 8088) with on-chip peripherals and a few address decoders.
It's designed for embedded apps, but apparently never really took
off; at least I haven't heard of them much lately. I worked with
a 186 once, and it took ordinary 8086 code. Since Linux is written
in C, I can't think of a reason why it couldn't be done, although
preemptive multi-tasking might be a little hairy. =:-O
Click to expand...
It lacks MMU. But there is a Linux flavour for MMU-less CPUs out there :))
Its called ucLinux.

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Rich Grise [null@example.net] on drugs:

This is self-contradictory, because a 186 (and 188) is just an
8086 (or 8088) with on-chip peripherals and a few address decoders.
It's designed for embedded apps, but apparently never really took
off; at least I haven't heard of them much lately. I worked with
a 186 once, and it took ordinary 8086 code. Since Linux is written
in C, I can't think of a reason why it couldn't be done, although
preemptive multi-tasking might be a little hairy. =:-O
Click to expand...
I think Minix would work on a 8086 or 8088, or a really old Linux kernel.

[]s
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On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 05:49:43 -0700, the renowned  @ .  wrote:

Eduardo <abdulai@tutopia.com> says...
[snip]
Eduardo, the original poster chose this subject:
Subject: OT: OS for 186 computer
yet when you replied you changed the subject to
Subject: Re: OS for 186 computer
The purpose of the "OT" is to let people know that the post
is off-topic - in this case that it wasn't about electronics
design. You shouldn't have removed the OT in your reply.

BTW, while "OT:" is O.K., "[OT]" is better. The first may be
a subset of a subject line.

To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
a Pentium. Also, the OP mentioned a IPAQ 2210, which doesn't
contain a 80186. It has an Intel XScale processor and runs the
PocketPC OS.

Also see http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/resourcepage/1099/c109r13.asp
Click to expand...
Ahem. Nobody ever hear of CPM86?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:14:48 +0100, "MNQ"
<corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?

Thanks for any help and apologies again for the OT post.

Naveed
Click to expand...
If it has a standard PC BIOS, MS-DOS or similar should certainly run
on it. Search around in the abandon-ware sites, it's up there for
grabs on some of them. If absolutely no luck in a week or so, mail me.

- YD.

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Reply-To: comp.os.minix

"MNQ" <corlioni1976REMOVE@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<c4rbld$53u$1@rdel.co.uk>...
Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?
Click to expand...

Minix, Andrew Tannenbaum's project, news://comp.os.minix ran on the
8086 and had source available in the early 90's incarnation and so
should be easily ported to the '186.


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=tannenbaum&meta=group%3Dcomp.os.minix
 
MNQ wrote:
Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?

Thanks for any help and apologies again for the OT post.

Naveed
Click to expand...
What do you want your OS to do? If you need the windowed user display
on a small machine that runs out of flash or PROM memory then you are
solidly in the target market for Windows CE, or a real (non-M$) RTOS and
PEG.

Tell us more, we'll tell you more.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com
 
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:14:48 +0100, MNQ wrote:

Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?
Click to expand...
I take it you are looking for a GUI-type interface. There was once GEM from
Digital Research which ran on 8086, so the 186 would be OK. If you google for
GEM operating system" you get quite a few links. One of them is
http://pcgem.iwarp.com/ , which list not only FreeDOS but also FreeGEM . I
have no idea what state this FreeGEM is in. GEM itself had some quite nice
programs. Maybe you can find an old copy.

Mat Nieuwenhoven
 
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:34:15 +0200 (CEST), Mat Nieuwenhoven wrote:

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:14:48 +0100, MNQ wrote:

Hi All

Sorry for posting this here but I could not find anyplace more suitable in
the time I have.

I am looking for a windows type (or Linux) operating system that will run
on a 186 processor. I have a dos emulation program for my IPAQ 2210 and am
trying to see if I can get windows to run in the emulation. I have tried
windows 3.1 but get the message it requires a 386 or higher processor. Does
anyone know of an operating system that is freely available to download from
the internet that I can run on a 186 processor?

I take it you are looking for a GUI-type interface. There was once GEM from
Digital Research which ran on 8086, so the 186 would be OK. If you google for
GEM operating system" you get quite a few links. One of them is
http://pcgem.iwarp.com/ , which list not only FreeDOS but also FreeGEM . I
have no idea what state this FreeGEM is in. GEM itself had some quite nice
programs. Maybe you can find an old copy.
Click to expand...
This got me interested, so I took a look. Apparently Caldera made GEM open
source, so it is available. Look at
http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us/cpm/archive/unofficial/gemworld.html
for details. File
http://deltasoft.fife.wa.us/cpm/archive/unofficial/download/gem301d.zip
appears to contain full binaries.

Mat Nieuwenhoven
 
"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
Eduardo <abdulai@tutopia.com> says...
To answer the question, 80186 systems are not suitable for
running any known operating systems. All OSs that run on Intel
chips are designed for a 8086/8088, 80286, 80386, 80486, or for
a Pentium. Also, the OP mentioned a IPAQ 2210, which doesn't
contain a 80186. It has an Intel XScale processor and runs the
PocketPC OS.

Also see
http://www.circuitcellar.com/library/resourcepage/1099/c109r13.asp

Ahem. Nobody ever hear of CPM86?
Click to expand...
I have! And even MP/M. It took us quite a while to figure out how
two people can enter data without having user 2 overwrite user 1's
input. It was a pretty cool system - an 8085 and an 8088 on an S-100
board.

Cheers!
Rich
 
"Sergey Kubushin" <ksi@koi8.net> wrote in message
news:c51o3q$ckv$1@hyppo.gu.net...
Rich Grise <null@example.net> wrote:
....
off; at least I haven't heard of them much lately. I worked with
a 186 once, and it took ordinary 8086 code. Since Linux is written
in C, I can't think of a reason why it couldn't be done, although
preemptive multi-tasking might be a little hairy. =:-O

It lacks MMU. But there is a Linux flavour for MMU-less CPUs out there :))
Its called ucLinux.
Click to expand...
What's "MMU," and how would that impact running Linux?

Thanks,
Rich
 
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