OT: OCD athletics rules...

On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.




Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and
long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.

The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing and
drag\'n\'drive events. It\'s when big money is involved that things get
boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Those two ideas contradict already.

Is clothing required?
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 07:22:30 -0700, John Larkin, another obviously brain
dead, troll-feeding senile asshole, blathered:


Those two ideas contradict already.

Is clothing required?

Not when you keep sucking him off, senile sucker of troll cock!
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 07:22:30 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

This is ridiculous, from
https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-
a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-
%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule
143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even
if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of
what “could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing
their hair in a particular way.

Those two ideas contradict already.

Is clothing required?

It wasn\'t in the days past, but I believe only men performed in the
Olympics.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:46:57 +0100, Smolley <s@home.net> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 07:22:30 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

This is ridiculous, from
https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-
a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-
%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule
143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even
if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of
what “could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing
their hair in a particular way.

Those two ideas contradict already.

Is clothing required?

It wasn\'t in the days past, but I believe only men performed in the
Olympics.

And why would women object to being naked more than men would?
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 15:22:30 +0100, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, \"Commander Kinsey\"
CK1@nospam.com> wrote:

This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Those two ideas contradict already.

Is clothing required?

I would say any clothing impedes movement of the body, so should not be worn.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:44:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.




Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and
long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.

The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing and
drag\'n\'drive events. It\'s when big money is involved that things get
boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)

What\'s wrong with electric cars? More acceleration.

All I ask for is a lot of crashes.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:19:07 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:44:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like
the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on
the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a
slightly bending the rules collision.




Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every
dealer take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to
race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules.
Like the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules
did not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in
diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.

The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing
and drag\'n\'drive events. It\'s when big money is involved that things
get boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)

What\'s wrong with electric cars? More acceleration.

Less noise... I remember when the first Wankels came out and purred
around the track. No fun. Even now the ones that make noise have been
gentled down. When I took my wife to her first stock car race it induced a
panic attack as the stands vibrated to the unmuffled engines.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

> And why would women object to being naked more than men would?

More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be
uncomfortable (for genuine women)
 
On 12 Sep 2023 00:15:17 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

And why would women object to being naked more than men would?

More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be
uncomfortable (for genuine women)

Boys have floppy bits too! The sports bra changed womens\' sports.
There\'s a funny story about that.
 
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 01:15:17 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

And why would women object to being naked more than men would?

More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be
uncomfortable (for genuine women)

Sporty women don\'t have huge tits.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f7/ea/44/f7ea44153a7df8ff3ed3032e15b5c4a5.jpg

And holding tits up could be considered the same as a leg strap for an injury.
 
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 01:26:50 +0100, John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On 12 Sep 2023 00:15:17 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

And why would women object to being naked more than men would?

More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be
uncomfortable (for genuine women)

Boys have floppy bits too!

Not if you rub them.

The sports bra changed womens\' sports.
There\'s a funny story about that.

I went to school with a very fat girl with enormous tits, they were about a foot and a half away from her body. She did not use a sports bra. They slapped her in the face when running, it was hilarious.
 
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 01:13:12 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:19:07 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:44:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like
the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on
the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a
slightly bending the rules collision.




Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every
dealer take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to
race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules.
Like the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules
did not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in
diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.

The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing
and drag\'n\'drive events. It\'s when big money is involved that things
get boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)

What\'s wrong with electric cars? More acceleration.

Less noise... I remember when the first Wankels came out and purred
around the track. No fun. Even now the ones that make noise have been
gentled down. When I took my wife to her first stock car race it induced a
panic attack as the stands vibrated to the unmuffled engines.

Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention they put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a speaker below 20mph for stupid folk who don\'t look before crossing. That and the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a car.
 
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 02:06:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention they
put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a speaker
below 20mph for stupid folk who don\'t look before crossing. That and
the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a car.

After owning the car for three years I realized I have daylight running
lights. It\'s a position on the stalk that I never noticed as I turned the
lights on.

The artificial engine noise for an electric car is nowhere as stupid as
the artificial engine noise for the EcoBoost engine.

https://www.carscoops.com/2014/10/this-is-what-ford-mustang-ecoboost-fake/
 
On 12 Sep 2023 00:13:12 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> Less noise...

Forever unable to resist sucking off the unwashed Scottish wanker\'s cock,
you abnormal senile devoted sucker of troll cock?

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On 12 Sep 2023 02:47:27 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> After owning

And again? Isn\'t the unwashed Scottish wanker\'s cock all sore by now, from
all your sucking? <BG>

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people stuffing balloons in their cars was a common sight. No more. I\'ve
no idea if there is another store in town.\"
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On 12 Sep 2023 00:15:17 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


> More floppy bits?

Are you talking about the unwashed Scottish wanker\'s floppy thing that\'s
always in your mouth, you passionate senile sucker of troll cock?

--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
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On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:19:25 AM UTC-5, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot or other requirements are not permitted.

5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use of such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.
Note (i): At least four months prior to an International Competition at which an
athlete proposes to wear a shoe that has not previously been used in International
Competitions, the athlete (or their representative) must submit to World Athletics
the specification (i.e. size, dimensions, sole thickness, structure etc.) of that new
shoe; confirm if the new shoe is to be customised in any way; and provide
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)
Approved by Council on 15 July 2020, effective from 28 July 2020
Amendments to Rule 5, in force on 28 July 2020 2
information about the availability of the new shoe on the open retail market (i.e.
either in store or online). After reviewing this information World Athletics may
request that samples of the shoe be submitted by the manufacturer for further
examination. If the shoe is requested for further investigation, World Athletics will
use reasonable efforts to complete its examination as soon as practicable (if
possible, within 30 days of receipt of the shoe by World Athletics).
Note (ii): Transition Period 31 January 2020 to 8 August 2021. This note has
been inserted in recognition of the fact that on 15 July 2020 a Working Group
on Athletic Shoes has been established by Council which by the end of the
year 2020, in collaboration with manufacturers, will review the entirety of
this Rule 5 as it applies to shoes by the end of the year 2020. The following
notes (a) to (e) will assist in guiding all stakeholders with the practical
application of this Rule 5 as it applies to all shoes (road or spike shoe) until
and including, 8 August 2021.

Whose feet wouldn’t be dirty running

mk5000

There’s a war goin’ on…
I’m not referring to
Wars overseas,
Or in third world countries,==DIGITAL POET
 
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 03:47:27 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 02:06:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention they
put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a speaker
below 20mph for stupid folk who don\'t look before crossing. That and
the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a car.

After owning the car for three years I realized I have daylight running
lights. It\'s a position on the stalk that I never noticed as I turned the
lights on.

At least you can turn them off. EU cars you have to rewire/remove the bulb/etc.

The artificial engine noise for an electric car is nowhere as stupid as
the artificial engine noise for the EcoBoost engine.

https://www.carscoops.com/2014/10/this-is-what-ford-mustang-ecoboost-fake/

I have no problem with that. Why not make it sound better?

But making a noise outside a car not designed to be loud is stupid.
 
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 11:39:43 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 03:47:27 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 02:06:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:


Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention
they put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a
speaker below 20mph for stupid folk who don\'t look before crossing.
That and the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a
car.

After owning the car for three years I realized I have daylight running
lights. It\'s a position on the stalk that I never noticed as I turned
the lights on.

At least you can turn them off. EU cars you have to rewire/remove the
bulb/etc.

The 2007 Yaris had them on full time. I believe they are required in
Canada so Toyota blanketed them across the North American market. They
were not on for the 2011 Yaris. There may have been a position on the
stalk but I never noticed. For me, they are either on or off. There\'s
probably a \'parking\' position too.

I haven\'t bought an American car in 30 years so they may have caught on by
now but Toyota finds it cheaper to include the support for all options
even if they aren\'t selected. For example the 2007 had speakers and the
wiring harness even though it didn\'t have a radio. This one has vestigial
lane and collision control although it isn\'t fully implemented. The
collision control will beep if I miss some idiot driver by a foot. My
driving style derives somewhat from figure 8 racing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZZyP7VlZcM
 

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