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Commander Kinsey

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This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot or other requirements are not permitted.

5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use of such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.
Note (i): At least four months prior to an International Competition at which an
athlete proposes to wear a shoe that has not previously been used in International
Competitions, the athlete (or their representative) must submit to World Athletics
the specification (i.e. size, dimensions, sole thickness, structure etc.) of that new
shoe; confirm if the new shoe is to be customised in any way; and provide
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)
Approved by Council on 15 July 2020, effective from 28 July 2020
Amendments to Rule 5, in force on 28 July 2020 2
information about the availability of the new shoe on the open retail market (i.e.
either in store or online). After reviewing this information World Athletics may
request that samples of the shoe be submitted by the manufacturer for further
examination. If the shoe is requested for further investigation, World Athletics will
use reasonable efforts to complete its examination as soon as practicable (if
possible, within 30 days of receipt of the shoe by World Athletics).
Note (ii): Transition Period 31 January 2020 to 8 August 2021. This note has
been inserted in recognition of the fact that on 15 July 2020 a Working Group
on Athletic Shoes has been established by Council which by the end of the
year 2020, in collaboration with manufacturers, will review the entirety of
this Rule 5 as it applies to shoes by the end of the year 2020. The following
notes (a) to (e) will assist in guiding all stakeholders with the practical
application of this Rule 5 as it applies to all shoes (road or spike shoe) until
and including, 8 August 2021.
 
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka \"Commander Kinsey\",
\"James Wilkinson\", \"Steven Wanker\",\"Bruce Farquar\", \"Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

<FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore\'s latest
attention-baiting sick bullshit unread again>

--
damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk about Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL)
trolling:
\"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again.\"
MID: <be195d5jh0hktj054mvfu7ef9ap854mjdb@4ax.com>

--
ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"You\'re an annoying troll and I\'m done with you and your
stupidity.\"
MID: <e39a6a7f-9677-4e78-a866-0590fe5bbc38@googlegroups.com>

--
AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
\"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information.\"
MID: <KaToA.263621$g93.262397@fx10.am4>

--
Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen.\"
MID: <uv2u4clurscpat3g29l7aksbohsassufe2@4ax.com>

--
Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"I\'ve never seen such misplaced pride in being a fucking moronic motorist.\"
MID: <j7fb6ct83igfd1g99rmu4gh9vf610ra3jk@4ax.com>

--
Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID: <VLCdnYC5HK1Z4S3FnZ2dnUU7-dPNnZ2d@giganews.com>

--
Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
\"Ok. I\'m persuaded . You are an idiot.\"
MID: <obru31$nao$3@dont-email.me>

--
DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread.\"
MID: <4d907253-b3b9-40d4-be4d-b32d453937e0@googlegroups.com>

--
Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey LOL):
\"It\'s like arguing with a demented frog.\"
MID: <op.yy3c02cqmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>

--
Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"the piss poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel.\"
MID: <odqtgc$iug$1@dont-email.me>

--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
\"He\'s a perennial idiot\"
MID: <20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars>

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
\"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You\'re just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments.\"
MID: <0001HW.1EE2D20300E7BECC700004A512CF@news.eternal-september.org>

--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"He\'s just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be.\"
MID: <rOmdndd_O7u8iK7EnZ2dnUU78TGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

--
thekmanrocks@gmail.com asking Birdbrain:
\"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?\"
MID: <58ddfad5-d9a5-4031-b91f-1850245a6ed9@googlegroups.com>

--
Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander
Kinsey\" LOL):
\"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It\'s from last
month some time. You\'re like a dog who\'s just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it.\"
MID: <59d8b0db.4113512@news.eternal-september.org>

--
Mr Pounder\'s fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw:
\"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed.\"
MID: <orree6$on2$1@dont-email.me>

--
Richard to pathetic wanker Hucker:
\"You haven\'t bred?
Only useful thing you\'ve done in your pathetic existence.\"
MID: <orvctf$l5m$1@gioia.aioe.org>

--
clare@snyder.on.ca about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"\"not the sharpest knife in the drawer\"\'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth.\"
MID: <s5e9uclqpnabtehehg3d792tmll73se0g8@4ax.com>

--
Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain:
\"You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a shithole with no hot
running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots.\"
MID: <os5m1i$8m1$1@dont-email.me>

--
francis about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence\"
MID: <cf06cdd9-8bb8-469c-800a-0dfa4c2f9ffa@googlegroups.com>

--
Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"If people like JWS didn\'t exist, we would have to find some other way to
explain the concept of \"invincible ignorance\".\"
MID: <otofc8$tbg$2@dont-email.me>

--
Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain:
\"Typical narcissist troll, thinks his shit is so grand he has the right to
try to force it on everyone
MID: <slrnq16c27.1h4g.g.kreme@jaka.local>
 
On 2023-09-09, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot or other requirements are not permitted.

That seems specifically worded to exclude the South African amputee who shot
his wife.


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Jasen.
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søndag den 10. september 2023 kl. 00.00.54 UTC+2 skrev Jasen Betts:
On 2023-09-09, Commander Kinsey <C...@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot or other requirements are not permitted.
That seems specifically worded to exclude the South African amputee who shot
his wife.

afaik \"any technical device that incorporates springs, wheels, or any other element that provides a user with an advantage over another athlete not using such a device\" was already banned 15 years ago

there was quite the controversy when he wanted to compete in nondisabled events, don\'t want to end up in a situation where the chance of winning an Olympic medal requires you to have your legs amputated
 
On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 21:46:12 -0000 (UTC), Jasen Betts, another notorious,
troll-feeding senile SHITHEAD, blatheredd:


That seems specifically worded to exclude the South African amputee who shot
his wife.

Look which abnormal troll-feeding senile HUGE ASSHOLE came doddering along
to feed the retarded troll again! <BG>

--
More from Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL) sociopathic life:
\"For some reason my favourite pastime was destroying (slowly by chiselling)
the outer walls and fences of the school. I guess we were trying to
escape.\"
MID: <op.y6jan2vpjs98qf@red.lan>
 
Seems a lot of words to say, if you have developed a shoe that might give
you an advantage, we need to inspect it first. Is it OK to wear clothing
with electronic adverts on it rotating as you run. Apparently this is now
possible. I\'m assuming that hair worn a specific way due to the religion
would not be affected as this would breach the equality act.
Maybe a new streamlined Turban can be designed?
Next we will hear that all noises used to start races must be under a
certain decibel level to protect the hearing.

Not that it bothers me much, since I\'m not in any way going to be an
athlete.
Brian

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\"Commander Kinsey\" <CK1@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:eek:p.2a0ficedmvhs6z@ryzen...
This is ridiculous, from
https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if
wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of
what
\"could impede the view of the judges\", including athletes wearing their hair
in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot
or other requirements are not permitted.

5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or
specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may
refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use of
such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.
Note (i): At least four months prior to an International Competition at
which an
athlete proposes to wear a shoe that has not previously been used in
International
Competitions, the athlete (or their representative) must submit to World
Athletics
the specification (i.e. size, dimensions, sole thickness, structure etc.) of
that new
shoe; confirm if the new shoe is to be customised in any way; and provide
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)
Approved by Council on 15 July 2020, effective from 28 July 2020
Amendments to Rule 5, in force on 28 July 2020 2
information about the availability of the new shoe on the open retail market
(i.e.
either in store or online). After reviewing this information World Athletics
may
request that samples of the shoe be submitted by the manufacturer for
further
examination. If the shoe is requested for further investigation, World
Athletics will
use reasonable efforts to complete its examination as soon as practicable
(if
possible, within 30 days of receipt of the shoe by World Athletics).
Note (ii): Transition Period 31 January 2020 to 8 August 2021. This note has
been inserted in recognition of the fact that on 15 July 2020 a Working
Group
on Athletic Shoes has been established by Council which by the end of the
year 2020, in collaboration with manufacturers, will review the entirety of
this Rule 5 as it applies to shoes by the end of the year 2020. The
following
notes (a) to (e) will assist in guiding all stakeholders with the practical
application of this Rule 5 as it applies to all shoes (road or spike shoe)
until
and including, 8 August 2021.
 
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:47:10 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the TV-watching and
pity-baiting senile \"blind\" mole, blathered again:

> Seems a lot of words to say,

Seems you are just a disgusting pity-baiting and troll-feeding senile pig,
Brainless & Daft, you cretin!
 
It amused me when they put in a minimum reaction time to say if you started less than 200ms after the starter pistol you cheated, then they realised some people were that quick at reacting.


On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:47:10 +0100, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

Seems a lot of words to say, if you have developed a shoe that might give
you an advantage, we need to inspect it first. Is it OK to wear clothing
with electronic adverts on it rotating as you run. Apparently this is now
possible. I\'m assuming that hair worn a specific way due to the religion
would not be affected as this would breach the equality act.
Maybe a new streamlined Turban can be designed?
Next we will hear that all noises used to start races must be under a
certain decibel level to protect the hearing.

Not that it bothers me much, since I\'m not in any way going to be an
athlete.
Brian
 
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 22:46:12 +0100, Jasen Betts <usenet@revmaps.no-ip.org> wrote:

On 2023-09-09, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)

Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)

5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.

Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.

Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.

One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s foot or other requirements are not permitted.

That seems specifically worded to exclude the South African amputee who shot
his wife.

I thought he had both legs amputated?

They also allowed him to wear huge bouncy springs in no way anything like the human foot.
 
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 06:36:36 +0100, Alan Lee <alan@darkroom.plus.com> wrote:

On 09/09/2023 16:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete\'s
foot or other requirements are not permitted.

5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or
specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may
refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use
of such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.

This is to combat the spring shoes that were used last year, or the year
before. They had springs in the soles, this gave an advantage, as the
energy that was being lost through the feet was recycled slightly, to
give a \'spring in the step\' to the athlete wearing them.

If they can fit it inside the size of a normal shoe sole, what\'s wrong with it? Why is it any different than a better spongy sole material?

Of course the only real fair way is to either:

1) Make all athletes run barefoot (it\'s good for you).
2) Give the athletes shoes provided by the event.
 
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 22:13:35 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

If they can fit it inside the size of a normal shoe sole, what\'s wrong
with it? Why is it any different than a better spongy sole material?

Of course the only real fair way is to either:

1) Make all athletes run barefoot (it\'s good for you).
2) Give the athletes shoes provided by the event.

Number 2 would be good. There are several automobile race car categories
similar to the Legends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing

Tires: 205/60R13 Federal SS595 (pavement)
American Racer 13 inch (dirt)

The tires aren\'t provided but are mandated by the rule book. No super high
performance tires developed by people with deep pockets. This was a
response to NASCAR. The people wanted to see the driver\'s skill, not the
bank account of his supporters.

Formula One is down to Pirelli as the sole tire supplier but there are
eight compounds and an arcane set of rules.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:19:24 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 22:13:35 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

If they can fit it inside the size of a normal shoe sole, what\'s wrong
with it? Why is it any different than a better spongy sole material?

Of course the only real fair way is to either:

1) Make all athletes run barefoot (it\'s good for you).
2) Give the athletes shoes provided by the event.

Number 2 would be good. There are several automobile race car categories
similar to the Legends.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing

Tires: 205/60R13 Federal SS595 (pavement)
American Racer 13 inch (dirt)

The tires aren\'t provided but are mandated by the rule book. No super high
performance tires developed by people with deep pockets. This was a
response to NASCAR. The people wanted to see the driver\'s skill, not the
bank account of his supporters.

Formula One is down to Pirelli as the sole tire supplier but there are
eight compounds and an arcane set of rules.

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.

Fuck it, forget cars, use buses!
https://youtu.be/zhtLfm-xhCM?si=SJV3katnDFx1WkyE
 
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.

Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and
long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 05:13:50 +0100, Ralph Mowery <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.

Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.

The fun days were when the cars were set up to \'cheat\' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and
long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.

Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:41:10 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:

The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the
anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the
straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly
bending the rules collision.

I used to go to SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) races at Limerock CT.
They would run the classes all at once. It was fun watching the Corvettes
run away on the straights, but in the curves and chicanes the Super 7s and
Minis would be nipping at their heels again.

I went to one Formula One race and was bored out of my mind. I grew up
with short (1/4 mile of less) outlaw dirt tracks. A large set of balls was
more important than a large engine. Like hurling the rules were
rudimentary.
 
On 11 Sep 2023 03:19:24 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:


Number 2 would be good. There are several automobile race car categories
similar to the Legends.

Keep your stinking senile trollshit out of these ngs, you stinking senile
Yankee bigmouth!

--
Gossiping \"lowbrowwoman\" about herself:
\"Usenet is my blog... I don\'t give a damn if anyone ever reads my posts
but they are useful in marshaling [sic] my thoughts.\"
MID: <iteioiF60jmU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 00:13:50 -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:

Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960\'s Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.

There was no NASCAR in upstate New York but you could literally go to a
stock car race every day of the week and twice on Sunday. The nearest
NASCAR track was in Pennsylvania. NASCAR was always too fancy for me.
 
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 00:13:50 -0400, Ralph Mowery, another brain dead,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blathered:


> Yes they are boring.

Not as much as you brain dead, demented troll-feeding senile ASSHOLES are,
you perverted troll-feeding senile shithead!
 
On 11 Sep 2023 07:03:51 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

<FLUSH trollshit>


--
More of the resident senile gossip\'s absolutely idiotic endless blather
about herself:
\"My family and I traveled cross country in \'52, going out on the northern
route and returning mostly on Rt 66. We also traveled quite a bit as the
interstates were being built. It might have been slower but it was a lot
more interesting. Even now I prefer what William Least Heat-Moon called
the blue highways but it\'s difficult. Around here there are remnants of
the Mullan Road as frontage roads but I-90 was laid over most of it so
there is no continuous route. So far 93 hasn\'t been destroyed.\"
MID: <kae9ivF7suU1@mid.individual.net>
 
On 11 Sep 2023 07:00:10 GMT, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

<FLUSH more of the inevitable senile trollshit unread>

--
More of the resident bigmouth\'s usual idiotic babble and gossip:
I\'m not saying my father and uncle wouldn\'t have drank Genesee beer
without Miss Genny but it certainly didn\'t hurt. Stanton\'s was the
hometown brewery but it closed in \'50. There was a Schaefer brewery in
Albany but their product was considered a step up from cat piss.

My preference was Rheingold on tap\"

MID: <k9mnmmF9emhU1@mid.individual.net>
 

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