OT: More on the CoronaVirus

On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-8, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 6:22:01 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 10:29:44 AM UTC-8, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 1:19:08 PM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 2/7/2020 8:27 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 19:19:47 -0600, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldm3n0hEsd4


Some Chinese official who was concerned about certain Western news
organisations alarmist reports said, and I quote: "It's not as bad as
ebola or SARS."
I'm guessing he thought this statement would be received as welcome
reassurance!


Possibly. But he might have been trying to put things in perspective.

Trouble is he may be wrong. While the fatality rate (which is presently not well known) seems to be lower than with SARS, the infection rate seems to be higher. So ultimately more people may die.

The fatality rate is not well known because this number is the number of infected people dying compared to those infected. But it has to be the same group of people. Presently the infection rate is such that the current death figures are from a smaller pool of infected than the currently infected numbers. So a bias exists if you just use the current numbers.

In the other direction is a bias from the reported infection number not including those who are infected, but do not develop symptoms enough to seek treatment. This seems to be significant in this case.

He was pretty clearly accurate in saying this is not as bad as Ebola. That's one bad ass disease. But not so hard to contain as a respiratory virus spread by simply being in the same room as a sick individual... or on a plane.

Voice of America (is it alarmist?) said daily cremation is around 1500 to 2000, including all deaths.

Where? China as a whole has a population of 1.386 billion, and a life expectancy of 76.25 years.

That's a average death rate of 49,800 people per day.

City of WuHan

Epoch Times: calling funeral home:

Q: Hi, i am from the government inspector office. Checking on complaints
of overworking. The local authority reported that you cremated 50
bodies on 2/2. It doesn't sound like too much work, doesn't it.

A: That mother fucking local official is lying.
Let me check my record.
We took in 45 bodies from hospitals and 72 from homes.
...
You should come over and take a look.
We are working 24/7 everyday.
We don't even want to drink water; so, we don't have to pee.
We might get infected if we take-off protective clothing.
...

Q: OK, we get the picture. Appreciate your work. Thank you.

VOA Asia: Total daily cremation of around 1500 in WuHan.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 19:56:25 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

>VOA Asia: Total daily cremation of around 1500 in WuHan.

Meanwhile, more and more cases in Europe and America. This is the
critical period now in containing it. Looks like it's touch and go
right now.
--

"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

 

On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 10:38:23 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 19:56:25 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

VOA Asia: Total daily cremation of around 1500 in WuHan.

Meanwhile, more and more cases in Europe and America. This is the
critical period now in containing it. Looks like it's touch and go
right now.
--

"We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked, but not comprised. We are interested and associated, but not absorbed. And should European statesmen address us with the question, 'Will you join us in this undertaking?' we should reply, “Nay Sir, for we are an island race and we dwell among our own.”

- Winston Spencer Churchill

There is news that Xi is retreating to South China Island. Well, perhaps the unfolding of the three kingdoms. RPC/KMD in Taiwan, PRC/CCP in SCI, the rest in China.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 5:52:38 AM UTC+11, edward...@gmail.com wrote:

On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 10:38:23 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 19:56:25 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

VOA Asia: Total daily cremation of around 1500 in WuHan.

Meanwhile, more and more cases in Europe and America. This is the
critical period now in containing it. Looks like it's touch and go

There is news that Xi is retreating to South China Island. Well, perhaps the unfolding of the three kingdoms. RPC/KMD in Taiwan, PRC/CCP in SCI, the rest in China.

Which is to say, our resident alarmist gullible twit has heard a rumour to that effect. It's not exactly a plausible report.

Xi is bound to have some bunker close to Peking that has been designed to survive a nuclear attack and a biological warfare assault. He's not going to isolate himself on some south China island.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, February 10, 2020 at 5:38:23 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 19:56:25 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com
wrote:

VOA Asia: Total daily cremation of around 1500 in WuHan.

According to or resident alarmist gullible twit.

Meanwhile, more and more cases in Europe and America. This is the
critical period now in containing it. Looks like it's touch and go
right now.

In Cursitor Doom's ever-so-reliable opinion.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

shows that the number of new infections per day has dropped.

Some German news service has picked up on this

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-number-of-new-infections-slows/a-52310160

"Another 89 deaths and 2,656 new cases were reported over the last 24 hours on Sunday, compared to 3,399 new cases recorded the day before."

As I've said before, these numbers are currently dominated by the infrections in WuHan province and adjacent areas, which are in lock-down and should have correspondingly low infection rates. Areas further away from the original outbreak may not be being quite as careful.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney