OT: Let's Take the Religion out of Christmas

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 25 Dec 2004 21:10:03 GMT, Tom MacIntyre

<snip>

And how about July 4? Doesn't that offend all of the "visitors" we
have in this country, and the scumbags in the UN? It's got to go ;-)

No - us foreigners just regard it as "horrible example day" and treat
it as a reminder of the sort of crap political system you get stuck
with when you make political changes by armed revolution, rather than
peaceful evolution. The Soviet Union is another such horrible example,
and France yet another ....

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Bil Sloman, Nijmegen

 

Clarence gets it wrong as usual - the "slave labour camps" were for
political prisoners, not slaves (slaves would probably have been
treated better) and they never produced toys.

And this is the first time I've heard Santa's elves described as
"slaves". Clarence can be relied on not to document his source for this
particular view of their relationship, but maybe some-one else can
suggest where he might have got the idea. Presumably not one of
Clarence's rabid-repulbican web-sites, for once.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Dan]

it as a reminder of the sort of crap political system you get stuck
with when you make political changes by armed revolution, rather than
peaceful evolution. The Soviet Union is another such horrible example,
and France yet another ....

What would have happened if the fathers had not started the American
Revolution? Would mother England finally grow tired and give us independence
at some point? Maybe not with all our natural resources.

Dan

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:27:24 GMT, "Dan"
<danNOSPAMsteely2001@yahoo.com> wrote:

What would have happened if the fathers had not started the American
Revolution? Would mother England finally grow tired and give us independence
at some point? Maybe not with all our natural resources.

Well you should have had the decency to patiently *wait* for the King
to get around to granting you Impendence, rather than seizing it for
yourselves like a bunch of petulant schoolchildren! ;-)
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote (in <pan.2005.01.01.22.04.03.154275@example.net&gt about 'OT: Let's
Take the Religion out of Christmas', on Sat, 1 Jan 2005:

Sounds pretty cool to me, as long as we don't have to eat English food.
;-)

You don't like pizza, Big Macs, 16 oz steaks, Californian wine?
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

You don't like pizza, Big Macs, 16 oz steaks, Californian wine?

I like it, but most of that stuff is off my diet.
Do you have any Colonel Sander"s Kentucky Fried Chicken places?
How about "El Polo Loco Chicken" ? I like the black beans.
Can I get an order of black beans to take out?
How about Subway Sandwiches? Can I get a Veggie Delite?
You must have some Burger Kings, how's the Chili?

-Bill

 

Think Canada, South Africa and Australia, none of which is short of
natural resources.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen (but an Australian citizen)

 

Pity you didn't use the same technique in Irak.
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

The British regime in the US was somewhat more benign than the Nazi
regime in Europe, and not noticeably less benign than the local regime
that replaced it - remember the "Whiskey Rebellion"?

http://www.whiskeyrebellion.org/

I think you are comparing apples and pears here - not for the first
time. Have you ever thought about getting an education?
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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <1104667826.695792.296890@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

Think Canada, South Africa and Australia, none of which is short of
natural resources.

But, Canada has to give the Queen a beaver pelt every time she visits.

I think they've used the same one the last several times. She seem to
forget to take it with her.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 22:44:02 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net
wrote (in <pan.2005.01.01.22.04.03.154275@example.net&gt about 'OT: Let's
Take the Religion out of Christmas', on Sat, 1 Jan 2005:

Sounds pretty cool to me, as long as we don't have to eat English food.
;-)

You don't like pizza, Big Macs, 16 oz steaks, Californian wine?

I was thinking kidney pie and bread pudding and all that stuff they eat
that you're supposed to throw away.

I did see some fish & chips in some documentary, that look like the way
fish & chips are _supposed_ to be done - almost quarters of potato, and
huge, 2" chunks of really substantial-looking white fish, dripping in
oil. Served in a cone of old newspaper. Yum! (although it did look like it
needed salt.)

Cheers!
Rich

 

There's nothing particularly socialist about suggesting that your
electoral college is an unnecessary complication now that we have
trains, planes, the electric telegraph and the wireless telegraph to
get information around the country faster than a galloping horse.
Nobody else bothers to have one.

Why do you suggest eliminating the electorial college?

If we use only popular vote, the politicans will campaign only in the
largest populated states (California, New York, Texas and Florida). The
smaller populated states will have no representation.
Is that a good thing?

-Bill

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 21:59:03 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:

It'd probably be pretty much the same, except instead of Washington, DC
being the sludge-pit of humanity, it would have stayed in England.

Er, it has, actually.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:34:13 GMT, Richard the Dreaded Liberal
<eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net> wrote:

It wasn't an invasion - it's the first time the Brits have tasted actual
food, and they can't get enough! ;-p

That's correct. I'm swelling as I write! Gimme a couple of years and
I'll equal the weight of John Fields. ;-)
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On 2 Jan 2005 04:19:37 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

let alone continental Europe. where proportional representation reigns
supreme.

PR? I don't think so. Corruption and beaurocracy, OTOH, certainly.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

 

[keith]

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 04:48:35 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:55:08 +0000, Kevin Aylward fantasized:

Making a claim of being mentally superior to Rich is not a grandiose
claim.

ROFLMAO!

See! Truth is funny!

--
Keith

 

[Kryten]

"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message
news:cr90lh$vr5$3@blue.rahul.net...

In article <1104667826.695792.296890@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
Think Canada, South Africa and Australia, none of which is short of
natural resources.

But, Canada has to give the Queen a beaver pelt every time she visits.

Just my luck, I have to become a queen to have any chance of being pelted
with beaver.

Alas and alackaday... :-<

 

So why do you support democracy for other countries, when you won't use
it to run your own?

Is this some kind of subtle subversion?

Considering the (in)comptence of your present regime - a regional
minority from Texas - the country you are subverting is probably your
own.

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 01:54:12 -0800, bill.sloman wrote:

So why do you support democracy for other countries, when you won't use
it to run your own?

Is this some kind of subtle subversion?

Considering the (in)comptence of your present regime - a regional
minority from Texas - the country you are subverting is probably your
own.

"Democracy" is just a buzzword these days. Crusades for "Democracy" and
"Freedom" get a lot better press than crusades for other ideologies.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

 

[Paul Burke]

bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

No - us foreigners just regard it as "horrible example day" and treat
it as a reminder of the sort of crap political system you get stuck
with when you make political changes by armed revolution, rather than
peaceful evolution. The Soviet Union is another such horrible example,
and France yet another ....

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Bil Sloman, Nijmegen

And of course Holland rebelled against the Spanish, and Switzerland
against the Austrians, and England executed Charles I, and Norway
rebelled against Sweden, and Sweden against Denmark, Ireland against
Britain, Greece against Turkey, Belgium against Holland...

No wonder the world's a mess. If only nobody ever took to armed
struggle, and let things evolve, we'd still be part of the Roman
empire... oh no, they rebelled against Tarquin the Prude...

Paul Burke