OT It's all a Bloody con.........

[blofelds_cat]

♥ Horry ♥ wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:38:30 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:


On Jan 8, 3:55 pm, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in
messagenews:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...


We are being conned rotten by these green bastards.............Sorry
it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

b...



You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they
are miniture heaters.

The CFL are designed for maximum light, with reduced power wastage.
Sure there is mercury in them, and they dont work with dimmers, but
they save a whole lot
of money on electricity!



They might technically save money on electricity, but the unaffordable
upfront cost


We get them for free here in Melbourne.


From whom?

http://www.envirosaver.com.au/

and free showerheads.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[blofelds_cat]

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ♥ Horry ♥ <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green bastards.............Sorry
it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they are
miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we call
them conventional bulbs?


They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

It simply
won't work. It's false economy. Sure, you save a little on
electricity, but then you waste electificity on other stuff like when
you open the fridge. You have to wait 20 seconds or more before the
fridge light warms up and you can see what you want in the fridge.

I know you're just joking, but still the reasoning is flawed. You assume
that no (or insufficient) light is emitted during those 20 secs.

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:
"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green bastards.............Sorry
it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html



You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they are
miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we call
them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up? It simply
won't work. It's false economy. Sure, you save a little on
electricity, but then you waste electificity on other stuff like when
you open the fridge. You have to wait 20 seconds or more before the
fridge light warms up and you can see what you want in the fridge.

 

[blofelds_cat]

♥ Horry ♥ wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:32:34 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:

♥ Horry ♥ wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:38:30 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:


TG'sFM wrote:


On Jan 8, 3:55 pm, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in
messagenews:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

http://tinyurl.com/9sg7kx

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they
are miniture heaters.

The CFL are designed for maximum light, with reduced power wastage.
Sure there is mercury in them, and they dont work with dimmers, but
they save a whole lot
of money on electricity!


They might technically save money on electricity, but the
unaffordable upfront cost


We get them for free here in Melbourne.


From whom?


http://www.envirosaver.com.au/


Driving out to your home to replace the light bulbs enables EnviroSaver
to "create" carbon credits, which it then sells to businesses to offset
their emissions.

What a ridiculous scheme.

Have you been missing your meds lately?? Getting light bulbs for free is
ridiculous? Well I won't be giving back the 30 or so they gave me and
the two free showerheads. (probably around $100 worth)

And why shouldn't individuals purchase carbon credits to offset their
domestic emissions?

And what about people who run home businesses?


--

rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[$)C"> Horry ">]

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:32:34 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:

♥ Horry ♥ wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:38:30 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:


On Jan 8, 3:55 pm, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:


"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in
messagenews:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...


We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-
right-

b...



You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they
are miniture heaters.

The CFL are designed for maximum light, with reduced power wastage.
Sure there is mercury in them, and they dont work with dimmers, but
they save a whole lot
of money on electricity!



They might technically save money on electricity, but the
unaffordable upfront cost


We get them for free here in Melbourne.


From whom?



http://www.envirosaver.com.au/

Driving out to your home to replace the light bulbs enables EnviroSaver
to "create" carbon credits, which it then sells to businesses to offset
their emissions.

What a ridiculous scheme.

And why shouldn't individuals purchase carbon credits to offset their
domestic emissions?

And what about people who run home businesses?

 

[Mr.T]

"? Horry ?" <horacewachope@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:gk48m3$ovf$2@news.datemas.de...

On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:01:24 -0800, Noodle wrote:

By banning these old light globes, you can guarantee there will be a
"black market" for them.

Instead of costing 60 UK Pence, they will not cost 5 UK POUNDS.

What will they cost then?

Who knows, but he is right, (even if by accident) they *won't* cost 5UK
pounds since that would make other options (like LED lamps) more economic.
(well maybe they will for a very few die hards with more money than sense.
There's always some of those!)

The even less efficient halogen down lights aren't being phased out just
yet, so the likely outcome may in fact be negative rather than positive for
the environment.

MrT.

 

[Mr.T]

"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote in message
news:aPw9l.9205$cu.8447@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Getting light bulbs for free is ridiculous?

Of course it's ridiculous, *somebody* has to pay for them!

MrT.

 

[DavidW]

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

And old ones don't.

Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.

 

[kreed]

On Jan 9, 9:49 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:32:34 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:
˘ž Horry ˘ž wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:38:30 +0000, blofelds_cat wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 8, 3:55 pm, Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in
messagenews:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-
right-

b...

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they
are miniture heaters.

The CFL are designed for maximum light, with reduced power wastage.
Sure there is mercury in them, and they dont work with dimmers, but
they save a whole lot
of money on electricity!

They might technically save money on electricity, but the
unaffordable upfront cost

We get them for free here in Melbourne.

From whom?

http://www.envirosaver.com.au/

Driving out to your home to replace the light bulbs enables EnviroSaver
to "create" carbon credits, which it then sells to businesses to offset
their emissions.

What a ridiculous scheme.

And why shouldn't individuals purchase carbon credits to offset their
domestic emissions?

And what about people who run home businesses?

Why should anyone pay for this fairy story about "man made climate
change". ?

IF it was true, they would be limiting, taxing births - thats about
the only practical way
to stop this "problem".

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green bastards.............Sorry
it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light, they are
miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we call
them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

And old ones don't.

 

[Bob Parker]

On 9/01/2009 14:15 kreed wrote:

Why should anyone pay for this fairy story about "man made climate
change". ?

Excellent question. People should watch 'The Greenhouse Conspiracy'
and 'The Great Global Warming Swindle' (both available as torrents).
Then maybe the idea would start to sink in that this planet's
long-term climate has never been static and is in a state of constant
change all by itself, regardless of the relatively very minor effects of
CO2 in the air. And humans started taking temperature records around the
time the planet was exiting one of its cooler periods.

IF it was true, they would be limiting, taxing births - thats about
the only practical way to stop this "problem".

Exactly. The planet can only support a finite number of humans and
other species. Humans want/intend to keep breeding to infinity.
Eventually a crisis point will be reached. In fact we're probably
already there.

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 2:31 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional.  The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

And old ones don't.

Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year. I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then. I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs. I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book. Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs? How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies? Will I be forced to starve to death?

 

[swanny]

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 2:31 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:
"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-
buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html
You're right !
This is an off topic post.
Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.
When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?
They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?
New traffic lights use LEDs.
And old ones don't.
Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year. I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then. I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs. I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book. Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs? How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies? Will I be forced to starve to death?

You are assuming that ALL incandescent light are being affected by this ban.
I think you will find that this is not the case.

Specialist lamps for certain applications will still be available.
Domestic lamps will not.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2009-01-09, TG'sFM <suvvdj@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year. I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then. I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs. I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book. Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs? How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies? Will I be forced to starve to death?

next month it's only the pear-shaped ordinary incandescent lamps that
are banned (and only from import, retail ban in november).

there is no date planned for phase-out of lamps below 15W.

 

[blofelds_cat]

Mr.T wrote:

"blofelds_cat" <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote in message
news:aPw9l.9205$cu.8447@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Getting light bulbs for free is ridiculous?


Of course it's ridiculous, *somebody* has to pay for them!

What's ridiculous is what's inside your head! School starts again soon.
Hopefully we'll be rid of you and your stupid posts then.

 

[blofelds_cat]

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 2:31 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional. The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

And old ones don't.

Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.


Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year. I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then. I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs. I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book. Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs?

Of course

How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies? Will I be forced to starve to death?

Hopefully..

--
rgds,

Pete
=====
http://pw352.blogspot.com/

"Rudds awkward, folksy addresses to troops in Afghanistan denigrated
their intelligence and the reason why they're there"

"Thank you Mr.Howard and Mr. Costello for the Christmas present Mr. Rudd sent me"

-media comments

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 6:38 pm, swanny
<blahgswan3b...@blahbigpondblah.comblah.blahau> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 2:31 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:
TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:
"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-
buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html
You're right !
This is an off topic post.
Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.
When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?
They won't become conventional.  The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?
New traffic lights use LEDs.
And old ones don't.
Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year.  I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then.  I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs.  I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book.  Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs?  How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies?   Will I be forced to starve to death?

You are assuming that ALL incandescent light are being affected by this ban.
I think you will find that this is not the case.

Specialist lamps for certain applications will still be available.
Domestic lamps will not.

So my only choice is to sell my domestic fridge and oven and buy a
commercial one?

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 8:28 pm, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2009-01-09, TG'sFM <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year.  I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then.  I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs.  I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book.  Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs?  How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies?   Will I be forced to starve to death?

next month it's only the pear-shaped ordinary incandescent lamps that
are banned (and only from import, retail ban in november).

there is no date planned for phase-out of lamps below 15W.

My fridge bulbs are 40watts.

 

[TG'sFM]

On Jan 9, 10:48 pm, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:
On Jan 9, 2:31 pm, "DavidW" <n...@email.provided> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 9:39 am, blofelds_cat <blofelds_cat@_SPECTRE.com> wrote:

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 8:13 am, ˘ž Horry ˘ž <horacewach...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:55:02 +0100, Anonymous wrote:

"Luke O'Zade" <No_one@home> wrote in message
news:496574ce$0$20975$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

We are being conned rotten by these green
bastards.............Sorry it's OT

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1107290/Revolt-Robbed-right-

buy-traditional-light-bulbs-millions-clearing-shelves-supplies.html

You're right !

This is an off topic post.

Conventional light bulbs are not efficient at producing light,
they are miniture heaters.

When compact fluorescent light bulbs become conventional, will we
call them conventional bulbs?

They won't become conventional.  The whole process will be a dud.
Imagine traffic lights that neec 20 seconds to warm up?

New traffic lights use LEDs.

And old ones don't.

Yes, old ones use incandescents that blow regularly. I know because I've called
VicRoads 12 times in about the last six months to report blown globes in just a
4km x 1km square of Melbourne.

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year.  I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then.  I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs.  I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book.  Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs?

Of course

How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies?   Will I be forced to starve to death?

Hopefully..

How bizzare! You actually wish DEATH upon someone because they don't
want to change the bulb in their fridge? Geez, you must have led a
protective life so far.

 

[Davo]

TG'sFM wrote:

On Jan 9, 8:28 pm, Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:
On 2009-01-09, TG'sFM <suv...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

Presumably every single incandescent traffic signal including train
level crossings will have to be converted to LED's before November
this year. I doubt that the legislators have thought this whole thing
through because it would be logistically impossible to replace EVERY
single incandescent lamp before then. I have a new LG fridge and
oven, and BOTH have incandescent bulbs. I asked the sales person when
LED's or even flouro's would be available and he said there is no part
number in his order book. Does that mean I have to switch my less
than one year old fridge and oven off until such time as LG builds and
supplies the new bulbs? How will I keep my beer cold after November?
How will I heat my party pies? Will I be forced to starve to death?
next month it's only the pear-shaped ordinary incandescent lamps that
are banned (and only from import, retail ban in november).

there is no date planned for phase-out of lamps below 15W.

My fridge bulbs are 40watts.

You can save electricity by removing the bulb, that way it won't use
power when the fridge door is closed.