OT: Is Cursitor Doom a Russian Troll?

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John Robertson

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He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John
 
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:30:13 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
> He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

Even the Russians could afford to make the quality of the trolling better than the implausible twaddle that Cursitor Doom posts.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:30:03 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

>He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

[. . . . /]
I R O N Y
 
On 7/23/19 8:30 PM, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John

Russian trolls probably get paid they don't need to charge 10 pound
licensing fees.
 
On 24/07/19 03:43, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:30:13 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

Even the Russians could afford to make the quality of the trolling better
than the implausible twaddle that Cursitor Doom posts.

No need. It is easier to get people to believe big lies.

Local "agit-prop" from a "useful fool".
 
On 24/07/19 01:30, John Robertson wrote:
> He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

His behaviour is one that I would expect from a classic
Russian false-flag propaganda machine. Think of it as
"agit-prop lite".

He is on record as thinking Russia Today is one of
the most trustworthy news sources, viz:


On 31/08/17 22:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:22:14 -0700, lonmkusch wrote:

While you're deciding, I think I'm going to stroll over to RT for some
good unbiased news.
If you can't see that RT is a zillion times more reputable as a news
source than CNN/NBC/BBC et al, you must be totally blind. Sure they
aren't 100% impartial; no news organisation is. But they are my most
trusted news source even if not yours - until such time as I ever
discover otherwise, of course.
 
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 6:35:45 PM UTC+10, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 03:43, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:30:13 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

Even the Russians could afford to make the quality of the trolling better
than the implausible twaddle that Cursitor Doom posts.

No need. It is easier to get people to believe big lies.

Local "agit-prop" from a "useful fool".

Big lies are one thing. Grotesquely implausible lies are another.

And the proposition that Cursitor Doom might be in any way useful does seem suspect.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On 24/07/19 12:13, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 6:35:45 PM UTC+10, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 03:43, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:30:13 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

Even the Russians could afford to make the quality of the trolling better
than the implausible twaddle that Cursitor Doom posts.

No need. It is easier to get people to believe big lies.

Local "agit-prop" from a "useful fool".

Big lies are one thing. Grotesquely implausible lies are another.

And the proposition that Cursitor Doom might be in any way useful does seem suspect.

Well that depends on ones viewpoint and objectives!

ISTR picking up the phrase "useful fool" from a John le Carre
novel. Other people seem to use the term "useful idiot.

It is usually associated with Russians such as Lenin and Putin.
Their version of "useful fool" is "полезный дурак", Anglicised as
"poleznyy durak".
 
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 12:41:13 AM UTC+10, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 12:13, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 6:35:45 PM UTC+10, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 03:43, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:30:13 AM UTC+10, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

Even the Russians could afford to make the quality of the trolling better
than the implausible twaddle that Cursitor Doom posts.

No need. It is easier to get people to believe big lies.

Local "agit-prop" from a "useful fool".

Big lies are one thing. Grotesquely implausible lies are another.

And the proposition that Cursitor Doom might be in any way useful does seem suspect.

Well that depends on ones viewpoint and objectives!

ISTR picking up the phrase "useful fool" from a John le Carre
novel. Other people seem to use the term "useful idiot.

Historically it was used of people silly enough to confuse communism with socialism, and promote the interests of the Soviet Union because they imagined that this was a way of promoting international socialism. Cursitor Doom's idiocy goes the other way, in that he confuses socialism with communism.

> It is usually associated with Russians such as Lenin and Putin.

Lenin is supposed to have used it. I hadn't heard that Putin had adopted it..

Their version of "useful fool" is "полезный дурак", Anglicised as
"poleznyy durak".

I did science Russian a long time ago, but never used it, and have retained very few words. Those two are long lost.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John

First of all BOY, his name is Trump. Or are you fucking people going to be like fourth graders and call names ? Fucking GROW UP already.

Second of all discard what Slowman says. If he can designa sigle stage common source amp using a JFET he is a savant. (that is three resistors and you can almost pull the values out of a hat) He knows NOTHING about anything else.

Now Cursitor is a different animal and I do not expect the likes of you to understand it but the deal is though he is not well informed (fucking nobody here is as far as I can tell) he has a rather less than popular quality of looking at world event objectively. I do. You can't.

I'll prove it right now - quote;

"the orange haired one"

That PROVES you walk in with preconceived notions and guess where they come from ? The liberal lie factory. Well that doesn't work anymore and you liberals can get this through your head right now - Donald Trump will be president of the US until 2025. And it is because of liberals, and it is because of leftist liberals that he got elected in the first place.

A client of mine is IN the Ohio democrat party, a voting member. he is among those who decides who gets the party's endorsement. he voted for Trump and just might do it again. Another democrat I know of saw the choices between Trump and HRC and went back to bed.

DEMOCRATS GOT TRUMP ELECTED. What is more they have simply doubled down doing what is known not to work. That is the definition of insanity. They're only getting worse. You all smug they got the lower house ? Well they can forget about the senate and they lost a ton of governors and state legislators, and now they are actually worse !

Did you notice that fork sticking out your ass ?
 
On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 10:09:50 PM UTC+10, jurb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John

First of all BOY, his name is Trump. Or are you fucking people going to be like fourth graders and call names ? Fucking GROW UP already.

Not before Donald Trump does. His tweets aren't exactly adding dignity to the US presidency.

> Second of all discard what Sloman says. If he can design a sigle stage common source amp using a JFET he is a savant. (that is three resistors and you can almost pull the values out of a hat) He knows NOTHING about anything else.

Nothing that Jurb seems to be able to follow.

> Now Cursitor is a different animal and I do not expect the likes of you to understand it but the deal is though he is not well informed (fucking nobody here is as far as I can tell) he has a rather less than popular quality of looking at world event objectively. I do. You can't.

Jurb really has lost it here. Cursitor Doom doesn't look at the world at all - he merely looks at the right-wing media that serve up the kind of right-wing twaddle that makes him feel good.

I'll prove it right now - quote;

"the orange haired one"

That PROVES you walk in with preconceived notions and guess where they come from ?

Trump hasn't got orange hair? And Jurb thinks that he looks at the world objectively!

> The liberal lie factory.

More the liberal factory for churning out objective reports that right-wing nitwits want to shout down.

> Well that doesn't work anymore and you liberals can get this through your head right now - Donald Trump will be president of the US until 2025.

And pigs might fly.

> And it is because of liberals, and it is because of leftist liberals that he got elected in the first place.

That's first time I've heard Putin described as a leftist liberal. Trump got three million fewer popular votes than Clinton, but because of a lot of Russian work via social media, he got the 77,000 extra votes he needed in what turned out to be the crucial states to give him the electoral college.

> A client of mine is IN the Ohio democrat party, a voting member. he is among those who decides who gets the party's endorsement. he voted for Trump and just might do it again. Another democrat I know of saw the choices between Trump and HRC and went back to bed.

Jurb keeps deplorable company.

> DEMOCRATS GOT TRUMP ELECTED. What is more they have simply doubled down doing what is known not to work. That is the definition of insanity. They're only getting worse. You all smug they got the lower house ? Well they can forget about the senate and they lost a ton of governors and state legislators, and now they are actually worse!

Whatever the mob of crooks running Russia may be, they aren't Democrats.

> Did you notice that fork sticking out your ass?

Jurb gets a lot more out of a text-only group than any rational person would expect. Whether any of it is actually there is an open question - but he also thinks he knows that Trump will be president until 2025.

He might even think that Trump could learn to act like a president if given that much time to practice, while the rest of us wonder if he'd have a country left to be president of if given a few more years in which to screw up.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
God damn I have never seen such stupidity in anyone who knew anything about the sciences. They seem mutually exclusive but I guess I am proven wrong now.
 
On 2019/07/25 5:09 a.m., jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John

First of all BOY, his name is Trump. ...

Was I talking about US President Donald J. Trump?

Yet you thought you knew who I was talking about, why is that? Does Mr.
Trump complain a lot? Is his hair also orange?

However you ignored the suggested Russian connection just like the US
President and his cabinet appear to be doing.

The Mueller investigation was set up by the Republicans to investigate
the Russian influence in the 2016 US election...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%932019)

Doesn't it bother you at all that the Russians are trying to work your
election process for their own benefit? Really? You are happy with this?

We are taking this threat very seriously here in Canada and our federal
government is doing a lot of work to make sure the influence is kept to
a minimum and to keep the public informed.

https://www.reuters.com/article/canada-politics-election/corrected-foreign-interference-in-2019-canada-election-very-likely-ottawa-idUSL1N21Q0A9

I await your vitriolic response as you can't appear to compose a reply
without them.

John
 
On 7/25/19 8:09 AM, jurb6006@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, July 23, 2019 at 7:30:13 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

John

First of all BOY, his name is Trump. Or are you fucking people going to be like fourth graders and call names ? Fucking GROW UP already.

Second of all discard what Slowman says. If he can designa sigle stage common source amp using a JFET he is a savant. (that is three resistors and you can almost pull the values out of a hat) He knows NOTHING about anything else.

Now Cursitor is a different animal and I do not expect the likes of you to understand it but the deal is though he is not well informed (fucking nobody here is as far as I can tell) he has a rather less than popular quality of looking at world event objectively. I do. You can't.

I'll prove it right now - quote;

"the orange haired one"

That PROVES you walk in with preconceived notions and guess where they come from ? The liberal lie factory. Well that doesn't work anymore and you liberals can get this through your head right now - Donald Trump will be president of the US until 2025. And it is because of liberals, and it is because of leftist liberals that he got elected in the first place.

A client of mine is IN the Ohio democrat party, a voting member. he is among those who decides who gets the party's endorsement. he voted for Trump and just might do it again. Another democrat I know of saw the choices between Trump and HRC and went back to bed.

DEMOCRATS GOT TRUMP ELECTED. What is more they have simply doubled down doing what is known not to work. That is the definition of insanity. They're only getting worse. You all smug they got the lower house ? Well they can forget about the senate and they lost a ton of governors and state legislators, and now they are actually worse !

Did you notice that fork sticking out your ass ?

You want establishment Democrats to go away? But establishment Democrats
have been the best friends the right has ever had!

Q: What's a Democrat?

A: Someone who helps Republicans pass things they can't pass on their own
 
On 7/24/19 4:34 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 01:30, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

His behaviour is one that I would expect from a classic
Russian false-flag propaganda machine. Think of it as
"agit-prop lite".

He is on record as thinking Russia Today is one of
the most trustworthy news sources, viz:


On 31/08/17 22:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:22:14 -0700, lonmkusch wrote:

While you're deciding, I think I'm going to stroll over to RT for some
good unbiased news.
If you can't see that RT is a zillion times more reputable as a news
source than CNN/NBC/BBC et al, you must be totally blind. Sure they
aren't 100% impartial; no news organisation is. But they are my most
trusted news source even if not yours - until such time as I ever
discover otherwise, of course.

pretty sure he's been saying the same kind of things on Usenet for well
over a decade under different names.

If he has a new gig now he must be careful or will surely bring great
shame to Republic and be sent to work camp in forest! ну ты даёшь!
 
On 7/25/19 10:03 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:

A client of mine is IN the Ohio democrat party, a voting member. he is among those who decides who gets the party's endorsement. he voted for Trump and just might do it again. Another democrat I know of saw the choices between Trump and HRC and went back to bed.

Jurb keeps deplorable company.

the parts of Ohio where minor elected officials feel their biggest
accomplishment in life is being a swing vote.
 
On a sunny day (Thu, 25 Jul 2019 20:51:38 -0400) it happened bitrex
<user@example.net> wrote in <u8s_E.203685$qW.102314@fx43.iad>:

On 7/24/19 4:34 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 24/07/19 01:30, John Robertson wrote:
He complains almost as much as the orange haired one.

His behaviour is one that I would expect from a classic
Russian false-flag propaganda machine. Think of it as
"agit-prop lite".

He is on record as thinking Russia Today is one of
the most trustworthy news sources, viz:


On 31/08/17 22:59, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 31 Aug 2017 11:22:14 -0700, lonmkusch wrote:

While you're deciding, I think I'm going to stroll over to RT for some
good unbiased news.
If you can't see that RT is a zillion times more reputable as a news
source than CNN/NBC/BBC et al, you must be totally blind. Sure they
aren't 100% impartial; no news organisation is. But they are my most
trusted news source even if not yours - until such time as I ever
discover otherwise, of course.


pretty sure he's been saying the same kind of things on Usenet for well
over a decade under different names.

If he has a new gig now he must be careful or will surely bring great
shame to Republic and be sent to work camp in forest! ну ты даёшь!

As to the defense of Cursitor Gloom, and Russia,
'merrycan propaganda and their people dancing like puppets to Agent Orange
who is nothing more than a spokesman for NethanYahoo, and in bed with Saudi Arabia for the money
while your infrastructure falls apart, your debt is increasing , your people sleep on the streets,
your climate is melting you, oops better stop here.
Anyways, I did on occasion read rt.com still do so every now an then
to see the view from the other less hysterical side,
and I read many more news sources just to keep an overview of what humming-beans are up to these days.

Why the fear for Russia? You should have fear of Agent Orange.
Especially if you are in the US for only a year and did not have that piece of tissue paper to prove
you are allowed to shit there,

So Cursitor Doom is OK and you claim to have freedom of speech yet you attack him sound like a demon-crate
OTOH of course Russia has hacked your computah so that explains the mistakes you make.
??@@
__
<press here to reboot>

And demoncrates want exactly the same political system as Russia have AFAICT.
And I do remember Khrushchev banging his shoe on the table in the UN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoe-banging_incident

and also him telling the US it would turn to socialism
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/khrushchev-doses-of-socialism/

So, of course I am no Russia Agent, I am just an alien observer of humming-beans running around on their mostly watery planet
one ant heap against the other one.

Personally I think the powerful alliance between China and Russia, and hopefully soon the EU,
will show the US where it now stands, or rather lays down in shambles.


<press here if first reboot did not help>
 
On 26/07/19 08:08, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Anyways, I did on occasion read rt.com still do so every now an then
to see the view from the other less hysterical side,
and I read many more news sources just to keep an overview of what humming-beans are up to these days.

Yes, always valuable, and it is more difficult to do that
in the US than in Europe. Classic point: in the US "foreign"
news often means "news from a different state"!


> Why the fear for Russia?

Because I went through the iron curtain 6 times, and know
someone that was forced to crawl under it.

The last time it wasn't quite that, since I was on business
in Berlin less than a week after the wall fell; the entire
city was in a daze that was probably like that at the end
of WW2.

I an friends also personally tested the West's standard
propaganda both personally - and found it to be accurate.

Nothing significant has changed since then; they continue
to be a threat.


> You should have fear of Agent Orange.

Indeed.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be afraid of Russia.

Putin is clever and thinks strategically, unlike our
clowns.
 
On a sunny day (Fri, 26 Jul 2019 08:42:19 +0100) it happened Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in <v9y_E.773345$2U7.576870@fx02.am4>:

On 26/07/19 08:08, Jan Panteltje wrote:
Anyways, I did on occasion read rt.com still do so every now an then
to see the view from the other less hysterical side,
and I read many more news sources just to keep an overview of what humming-beans are up to these days.

Yes, always valuable, and it is more difficult to do that
in the US than in Europe. Classic point: in the US "foreign"
news often means "news from a different state"!


Why the fear for Russia?

Because I went through the iron curtain 6 times, and know
someone that was forced to crawl under it.

I have only been in Berlin shortly after that wall fell.
In a hotel that is, only 2 days,.
Never been to Russia, been over large parts of the rest of the world though.

Crossing one border and rules and living stile change.
Is one system better than the other?
One ant heap better than the other?
If you measure by the amount of junk we collect, then 4 sure capitalism as we have is, better.
I did read recently that Scandinavia has the happiest people:
https://www.atlasandboots.com/happiest-countries-in-the-world-ranked/

UK is number 15 down the list, US 19, Russia 68, Netherlands where I am is number 5.
Is it an objective list? I dunno.



The last time it wasn't quite that, since I was on business
in Berlin less than a week after the wall fell; the entire
city was in a daze that was probably like that at the end
of WW2.

I an friends also personally tested the West's standard
propaganda both personally - and found it to be accurate.

Nothing significant has changed since then; they continue
to be a threat.


You should have fear of Agent Orange.

Indeed.

But that doesn't mean we shouldn't be afraid of Russia.

Putin is clever and thinks strategically, unlike our
clowns.

Well, I dunno, here, in the past I have stated 'When Obama sneezes then all of the Dutch government has a cold'.
Now with trade tensions increasing, that may well change a bit,
the German economy is slowing down because of those trade tensions, that affects all of the EU.
Merkel was pretty much a US puppet.
Of course Agent Orange wants war in the EU and wants it to fall apart, he is a ruthless weapon sales man and ego maniac after all.
At this point in time I think Russia and China want better trade with the EU.
I do not see a military threat from those, I do see a military threat when Agent Orange
cancels international nuclear weapon reduction treaties and stations short to medium range nuclear missiles
here, that makes me target.
So no fear of Russia more of the war mongering US that than forces us to accommodate the refugees from the countries
it destroys by its imperialism or just for the sake of testing its weapons.

The bright horizon is history, we know (and especially those in the UK) what happened to the Roman empire in its last days.
Then later ,after it fell, they had the lire, and hundreds of lires would just about buy you a pizza...
:)
 
>On 26/07/19 08:08, Jan Panteltje wrote:
I have only been in Berlin shortly after that wall fell.
In a hotel that is, only 2 days,.

Correction:
I also was in East Berlin before the wall fell, with some other people, in a hotel..
Nice place, quiet.

Probably makes me a commie agent, so beware :)
 

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