OT: interesting detective work re: Wuhan virus lab

[Bill Sloman]

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:02:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 9:32:47 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 8:18:08 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 07:01:58 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting, thanks Phil. Some lab screw-up seems as likely as
some meat market transmission.


Some lab tech could have picked up the virus from one of many samples,
and then gone grocery shopping after work.

Well, not in the bio labs I've known. The nearby lab does, however,
offer a coincidence that can fuel rumor, and such a rumor possibility would explain
the early-days suppression of the virus news. Once the officials recognized
the new disease, info flowed freely (because, in a pandemic, that's the safest
way to proceed).

I'd think that free trade across the US-Canada border, in addition to being in accord with
treaty, would also be safest.

More than a coincidence - the bat in question was not sold in the wet market, it came from 600 miles away from samples collected by a researcher at the Wuhan lab.

The bat corona virus in question may have showed up in blood sample from a bat collected a long way away, but all bats are hosts to a range of corona viruses, so it doesn't signify much to anybody except rabid conspiracy theory buffs.

Flyguy is a bit further down the pecking order than that, but he is susceptible to every idiot fantasy going around.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:7edb9240-495c-486c-bf16-0abae186508f@googlegroups.com:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:02:35 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 9:32:47 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 8:18:08 AM UTC-7,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 6 Apr 2020 07:01:58 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

Interesting, thanks Phil. Some lab screw-up seems as likely
as some meat market transmission.


Some lab tech could have picked up the virus from one of many
samples, and then gone grocery shopping after work.

Well, not in the bio labs I've known. The nearby lab does,
however, offer a coincidence that can fuel rumor, and such a
rumor possibility would explain the early-days suppression of
the virus news. Once the officials recognized the new
disease, info flowed freely (because, in a pandemic, that's the
safest way to proceed).

I'd think that free trade across the US-Canada border, in
addition to being in accord with treaty, would also be safest.

More than a coincidence - the bat in question was not sold in the
wet market, it came from 600 miles away from samples collected by
a researcher at the Wuhan lab.

The bat corona virus in question may have showed up in blood
sample from a bat collected a long way away, but all bats are
hosts to a range of corona viruses, so it doesn't signify much to
anybody except rabid conspiracy theory buffs.

Flyguy is a bit further down the pecking order than that, but he
is susceptible to every idiot fantasy going around.

A little bit like Trump in that susceptibility thing.

 

[Flyguy]

On Saturday, April 11, 2020 at 9:23:30 PM UTC-7, bitrex wrote:

On 4/6/2020 10:25 PM, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:15:05 PM UTC-7, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 1:52:06 PM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 6, 2020 at 12:08:35 PM UTC-4, bloggs.fre...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sunday, April 5, 2020 at 1:16:12 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
https://youtu.be/bpQFCcSI0pU

I really like this guy (Matthew Tye). He's both talented and
careful--he has a lot of interesting material on living in China, and
I've never seen him go beyond the evidence.

You've never seen him demonstrate any intelligence either. You don't go into a >so-called investigation with a preconceived idea of what happened,


You mean like our fact checkers in the media?

Yep- there's another bunch. They start out with the premise Trump can't do anything right, then dig up every bit of misinformation however remotely related to the crisis to "prove" it.

Recently they dug up a U.S. Northern Command report from 2017 "Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Disease Response, Plan 3560", misstated that it predicted the COVID-19 pandemic with near certainty, and that it outlined complete and feasible response by the president. When in fact the plan did no such thing.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/covid-military-shortage-pandemic/
Then they're dinging him for "closing" the global health security office, when he did no such thing. It was part of bloated bureaucracy that was consolidated and kept mostly intact, under Bolton.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-trump-closed/2020/03/13/a70de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html






Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

It is ridiculous to "report" that anyone saw this pandemic coming. What is reported is that the probability of a major pandemic is about 1% in any given year, or once in 100 years. But libtards are not about the truth or fair and balanced reporting; they are about controlling the narrative to spread their ideology. Just read Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky. Rule 11 is:
"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside."
Note that there is no requirement that the negative be factual.


Histrionic geriatric Republicans irritating their bored younger family
members at Thanksgiving dinner ranting on about winger conspiracy
nuttery has done more to spread liberal ideology than liberals ever
could themselves I figure.

I used to have this wingnut janitor in high school who accused me of not
believing in God because I wasn't entirely convinced that TWA Flight 800
was shot down by an Israeli missile on orders of the Clintons or
somesuch. What a fuckin' loon.

You might try learning how to spell Uighur before embarrassing yourself on your supposed superior intelligence.

BTW, I thought libtards were worried about enslaving millions of people. I guess they are only worried about slavery that happened 150 years ago.