OT: If Kerry is elected...

[Julie]

If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens (high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:05:28 -0700, Julie <julie@nospam.com> wrote:

If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens (high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

Given that neither candidate promises to do anything very different
from the other (and, in fact, *can't* do much different) the election
will pretty much decide who gets blamed. And whether Hilary takes a
shot at 2008.

John

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:30:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

[snip]

the election
will pretty much decide who gets blamed. And whether Hilary takes a
shot at 2008.

John

That makes it hard to decide my vote. Hillary would bring this
country to its socialist knees :-(

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[Julie]

Frank Bemelman wrote:

The state of the nation is ruled by other forces than just the
administration.

Why don't more people realize that?

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you have?

Right! But which of the candidates do you refer to?

John

 

[Mark Fergerson]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:30:18 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

[snip]

the election
will pretty much decide who gets blamed. And whether Hilary takes a
shot at 2008.

John

That makes it hard to decide my vote. Hillary would bring this
country to its socialist knees :-(

Take heart; my wife is convinced that the proposed Amendment to allow
non-citizens to run for President is specifically intended for Arnie.
Now, name a candidte that could beat him!

Mark L. Fergerson

 

[Ken Smith]

In article <2nrvm0907qgdfpmr1run659udqjtr2p49r@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 08:30:18 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

[snip]
the election
will pretty much decide who gets blamed. And whether Hilary takes a
shot at 2008.

John

That makes it hard to decide my vote. Hillary would bring this
country to its socialist knees :-(

By 2008, on its knees may be an improvement. At least it won't be flat on
its back. High oil prices could stall the economy in the next few years.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge

 

[Clarence]

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote in message
news:41700680$0$25965$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:416FE738.CDEE3700@nospam.com...
If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens
(high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going
to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry
just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

Don't expect miracles from Kerry. The state of the nation is ruled by
other forces than just the administration. But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you have?

--
Thanks, Frank.

You seem confused. Kerry is the one who confessed to war crimes!

 

[Don Pearce]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:33:44 -0700, Julie <julie@nospam.com> wrote:

Frank Bemelman wrote:

The state of the nation is ruled by other forces than just the
administration.

Why don't more people realize that?

Don't you have a comedy like our "Yes, Minister"?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
bericht news:tf20n01eiuj4lf0rlav238eeogk08pil2c@4ax.com...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you
have?


Right! But which of the candidates do you refer to?

You're the smoke curtain guy, John, not me. You know damn
well that I am referring to Bush. So you can shove that 'Right!'
up your ass. Go play games with yourself and close the door
behind you.

--
Thanks, Frank.
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[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:416FE738.CDEE3700@nospam.com...
If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens
(high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going
to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry
just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

Don't expect miracles from Kerry. The state of the nation is ruled by
other forces than just the administration. But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you have?

Michael Badnarik.
http://www.lp.org/campaigns/pres

And everybody knows one vote doesn't make any difference - So vote Libertarian
just for the fun of it! Just to do that one little rebellious thing that
nobody knows about - Or announce proudly, "I voted against BOTH of them!"
In your heart you can know that you have contributed to the impetus to correct
what's wrong with America. Little things like that really do make a difference,
you know.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 17:57:52 +0000, Clarence wrote:

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote in message
news:41700680$0$25965$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:416FE738.CDEE3700@nospam.com...
If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens
(high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going
to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry
just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

Don't expect miracles from Kerry. The state of the nation is ruled by
other forces than just the administration. But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you have?

--
Thanks, Frank.


You seem confused. Kerry is the one who confessed to war crimes!

In your mind he did. What you seem to be missing is that he owned up to
doing the same stuff as everybody else in the 'Nam, and when he woke up
and saw the horror of what was going on, he switched over to the side of
the good and right, and fought to stop the Vietnam hell. He was right on
both counts, and the neocon doublethink wants to believe that both of
these things should now be considered to be crimes. The only reason they
want them to be crimes is that they were against the wishes of the
neocons, who are, after all, nothing but nazis in republican suits.

Bush, on the other hand, is doing real crimes, right now, and all his
minions are accessories, and all in deep denial of the horrors they're
perpetrating/endorsing.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:01:43 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
bericht news:tf20n01eiuj4lf0rlav238eeogk08pil2c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you
have?


Right! But which of the candidates do you refer to?

You're the smoke curtain guy, John, not me. You know damn
well that I am referring to Bush. So you can shove that 'Right!'
up your ass. Go play games with yourself and close the door
behind you.

But Kerry testified before congress that he committed war crimes in
Vietnam. I figured that was what you were referring to.

Why so crabby today?

John

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 10:33:44 -0700, Julie wrote:

Frank Bemelman wrote:

The state of the nation is ruled by other forces than just the
administration.

Why don't more people realize that?

Because most people are programmed not to notice anything. They're
quite comfortable being nice and obedient, in their comfortable
little stock pens.

People don't want freedom, they want Mommy.

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Rich Grise" <rich@example.net> schreef in bericht
newsan.2004.10.15.18.17.18.449165@example.net...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:


"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:416FE738.CDEE3700@nospam.com...
If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or
worsens
(high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just
going
to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry
just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his
promises...

Don't expect miracles from Kerry. The state of the nation is ruled by
other forces than just the administration. But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you
have?

Michael Badnarik.
http://www.lp.org/campaigns/pres

And everybody knows one vote doesn't make any difference - So vote
Libertarian
just for the fun of it! Just to do that one little rebellious thing that
nobody knows about - Or announce proudly, "I voted against BOTH of them!"
In your heart you can know that you have contributed to the impetus to
correct
what's wrong with America. Little things like that really do make a
difference,
you know.

I admit that a protest vote has its value. But don't make the mistake that
one vote doesn't make a difference. There are many that think like you, so
it isn't really one vote you are talking about. It would be, if you flipped
a coin to make a decision, but as soon as there is some reasoning behing
your voting behaviour, it *does* make a difference, and not only to
yourself.


--
Thanks, Frank.
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[Jonathan Kirwan]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:21:51 GMT, PaulCsouls <paulcsouls@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:

Hilary's running for President of Iraq in January. Someone tried to
explain to her that she's not from there but ...

And here I thought that Bush supporters in the US were pushing the scare-tactic
that if Kerry gets in, he'll appoint her to the Supreme Court!

Jon

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:42:30 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
bericht news:gt40n0lk5mm77n5tdko0ls8p7bl8gnqg9m@4ax.com...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 20:01:43 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> schreef in
bericht news:tf20n01eiuj4lf0rlav238eeogk08pil2c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:20:03 +0200, "Frank Bemelman"
f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

But the alternative, voting
for a proven war criminal, is totally immoral, so what choice do you
have?


Right! But which of the candidates do you refer to?

You're the smoke curtain guy, John, not me. You know damn
well that I am referring to Bush. So you can shove that 'Right!'
up your ass. Go play games with yourself and close the door
behind you.


But Kerry testified before congress that he committed war crimes in
Vietnam. I figured that was what you were referring to.

No, at max he admitted he was a puppet on a string, at the time.

And that's a virtue?

Why so crabby today?

It has nothing to with today. But I am not amused when my
words get turned around 180 degrees only to serve your personal
entertainment.

Gosh, you *aren't* amused. Are you ever amused, any day?

Go vote for your beloved hero. Be a collaborator.

As I've said before, neither of these guys is really Presidential
material, and I'm not going to vote for either of them.

And close the door behind you.

Of course; that's only polite.

John

 

[Dave]

"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:416FE738.CDEE3700@nospam.com...

If Kerry is elected and the state of the nation stays the same or worsens
(high
oil prices, mess in Iraq, no UBL, etc.), are the anti-Bushers just going
to
blame it all on the previous Bush administration?

I've hardly decided my vote, but I'm almost tempted to hope/vote Kerry
just to
see what magic he will have to perform to pull off all of his promises...

Don't bother voting for Bush unless you honestly believe he can do different
from what he has already done.

Just a thought.

Dave

 

[Clarence]

"Jonathan Kirwan" <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote in message
news:e590n0pkinalhei2iuf1cpk8ij056u46lp@4ax.com...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 19:21:51 GMT, PaulCsouls <paulcsouls@worldnet.att.net
wrote:

Hilary's running for President of Iraq in January. Someone tried to
explain to her that she's not from there but ...

And here I thought that Bush supporters in the US were pushing the
scare-tactic
that if Kerry gets in, he'll appoint her to the Supreme Court!

Jon

Now THAT is a scary thought!

Say it isn't so!

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Julie" <julie@nospam.com> schreef in bericht
news:417009F8.D22B4CA1@nospam.com...

Frank Bemelman wrote:

The state of the nation is ruled by other forces than just the
administration.

Why don't more people realize that?

I don't know. It seems that the entire world population
has lost their brains.

To John Larkin: Yes, I know, I am the living example of it.

--
Thanks, Frank.
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