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[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 7:15:07 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

> Trump threw Epstein out of his resort

Is there a trustworthy record of that event?

when he heard that he was
hitting on young girls.

How do we know that was the reason? Was there a police report?

And he was reportedly the only associate of
Epstein who cooperated with investigating him. Look it up.

Reportedly? Ongoing investigations don't generally issue such reports,
so this came from court proceedings?

I'm thinking there's a lot of misinformation out there. Maybe even in the postings
here. Be skeptical for a change.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 03:31:42 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 10, 2019 at 7:15:07 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

Trump threw Epstein out of his resort

Is there a trustworthy record of that event?

As I said, look it up.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 6:46:39 PM UTC+2, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

Yuck.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

How would he know that, unless he tried?

.... and quite possibly succeeded in such
"transactional encounters" as Kissinger mentioned...

> Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/15/19 11:26 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

How would he know that, unless he tried?

... and quite possibly succeeded in such
"transactional encounters" as Kissinger mentioned...

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Sure but as a stereotype Americans _love_ bullies and love to punch-down
on easy targets constantly. Why fight a gorilla when you can punch a kitten.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/16/19 12:14 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/15/19 10:54 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.



"They let you" well what else is she gonna do, punch out Donald Trump
the billionaire, with a billionaire's legal team, for doing it if she
didn't like it?

Legal concept: if someone lets you assault them because they feel it
would be futile to do anything else, it's still assault. Whether they
are brought to trial for it and/or convicted of it tends to depend on
how much money they have vs. you.

if he'd said "they _want_ you to..." OK, sure, probably reasonable
statement with respect to the effect enormous wealth has on _some_
women. Rock stars often have the same "problem" and sometimes they
aren't even that wealthy by comparison

I'm somewhat surprised he didn't try to clarify the wording "What I
meant was 'they want you to'" as only the most radical ultra-feminist
could construe that wording as anything but banter when phrased that
way. Mostly a (somewhat no-duh uninteresting) statement of fact about
being very wealthy and powerful.

It's not intrinsically illegal or intrinsically immoral IMO for a woman
to want a man to touch her wherever because he is very wealthy and she
finds that appealing, and for him to do so if she does. Sounds a bit
like prostitution to me, but not the kind anyone really cares too much
about.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/15/19 10:54 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

"They let you" well what else is she gonna do, punch out Donald Trump
the billionaire, with a billionaire's legal team, for doing it if she
didn't like it?

Legal concept: if someone lets you assault them because they feel it
would be futile to do anything else, it's still assault. Whether they
are brought to trial for it and/or convicted of it tends to depend on
how much money they have vs. you.

if he'd said "they _want_ you to..." OK, sure, probably reasonable
statement with respect to the effect enormous wealth has on _some_
women. Rock stars often have the same "problem" and sometimes they
aren't even that wealthy by comparison.

Legal concept: a woman (or man) who tries to physically force you to
touch them because you are wealthy and/or famous, is also assault

 

[bitrex]

On 7/16/19 12:42 AM, bitrex wrote:

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Sure but as a stereotype Americans _love_ bullies and love to punch-down
on easy targets constantly. Why fight a gorilla when you can punch a
kitten.

For PR purposes you should probably put the kitten in a lil gorilla suit
and tell the press you fought a "mini-gorilla." Very rare, vicious
creature. It's dangerous work

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 4:55:01 PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

He didn't, though the implication - in context - was that he could get away with it because he was famous. Notorious would be a better word.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/08/us/donald-trump-tape-transcript.html

"Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."

> Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Not so much privileges as advantages. A privilege is something that is known to come with the job. An advantage casn be something that isn't much talked about.

Kissinger - for all his faults - had a whole lot more going for him than Trump has, and a great deal more goijng for him than Trump had when he made the pussy-grabbing comment.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 00:14:30 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/15/19 10:54 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.



"They let you" well what else is she gonna do, punch out Donald Trump
the billionaire, with a billionaire's legal team, for doing it if she
didn't like it?

Sue him for big bucks, if she was unwilling. That happens a lot.

Legal concept: if someone lets you assault them because they feel it
would be futile to do anything else, it's still assault. Whether they
are brought to trial for it and/or convicted of it tends to depend on
how much money they have vs. you.

if he'd said "they _want_ you to..." OK, sure, probably reasonable
statement with respect to the effect enormous wealth has on _some_
women. Rock stars often have the same "problem" and sometimes they
aren't even that wealthy by comparison.

I think that was about what he, and Henry, were saying.

There was a TV series once, "How To Marry a Millionaire."

Legal concept: a woman (or man) who tries to physically force you to
touch them because you are wealthy and/or famous, is also assault

Why are so meny people so hyper-Victorian and confused about their
biology? Even Victorians understood about girls and boys.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:26:55 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

How would he know that, unless he tried?

... and quite possibly succeeded in such
"transactional encounters" as Kissinger mentioned...

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Speak for yourself. Some guys like girls and, as the parties said,
some girls like to be grabbed.

As Shakespeare said, "The world must be peopled!"

Much Ado About Nothing, I think.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 3:46:07 PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:26:55 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Speak for yourself. Some guys like girls and, as the parties said,
some girls like to be grabbed.

As Shakespeare said, "The world must be peopled!"

Much Ado About Nothing, I think.

"Peopling the world" is not just about getting the kids conceived, but also about getting them brought up.

Human children take a remarkably long time to develop to the point where they can fend for themselves. Two parents and at least one surviving grandmother, not to mention a bunch of neighbours and near relatives, considerably improved their cchances of surviving to that point.

"Pussy-grabbing" isn't the kind of behaviour that carries any suggestion of a willingness to provide long term support. Trump's marriage history isn't one where stable support sticks out.

He's been an irresponsible creep from way back.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 3:51:53 PM UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 00:14:30 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/15/19 10:54 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab them."

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its priviliges.

Actually, what he said was closer to "you can get away with grabbing them by the pussy".

"They let you" well what else is she gonna do, punch out Donald Trump
the billionaire, with a billionaire's legal team, for doing it if she
didn't like it?

Sue him for big bucks, if she was unwilling. That happens a lot.

Examples? Trump is famously litigous, and it would take big bucks to sue him. There are lawyers who might take on the case without asking for big bucks up front, on the basis that they'd get a big chunk of the big bucks if they win the case, but then they are putting up big bucks.

Legal concept: if someone lets you assault them because they feel it
would be futile to do anything else, it's still assault. Whether they
are brought to trial for it and/or convicted of it tends to depend on
how much money they have vs. you.

if he'd said "they _want_ you to..." OK, sure, probably reasonable
statement with respect to the effect enormous wealth has on _some_
women. Rock stars often have the same "problem" and sometimes they
aren't even that wealthy by comparison.

I think that was about what he, and Henry, were saying.

Perhaps, but having women throw thmeselves at you doesn't involve you grabbing them by the pussy.

> There was a TV series once, "How To Marry a Millionaire."

And another called "The Apprentice". Reality televison isn't exactly realistic.

Legal concept: a woman (or man) who tries to physically force you to
touch them because you are wealthy and/or famous, is also assault

Why are so meny people so hyper-Victorian and confused about their
biology? Even Victorians understood about girls and boys.

And understood about rich people using political and economic power to exploit the less well-off. There was quite a lot of Victorian legislation to try and cut back on that.

There's nothing particulalry biological about Trump's pussy-grabbing antics.. It's a simple assertion of power by a creep who thinks he can get away with it.

If he actually wanted to get laid, he'd be more diplomatic.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
newsvkrieh5lrmk8m7merpve899ptqo7b6500@4ax.com:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:26:55 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all
comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a
lot of powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more
likely the whole thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm
wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of
wonder as bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just
harmless banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab
them."

How would he know that, unless he tried?

... and quite possibly succeeded in such
"transactional encounters" as Kissinger mentioned...

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its
priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Speak for yourself. Some guys like girls and, as the parties said,
some girls like to be grabbed.

As Shakespeare said, "The world must be peopled!"

Much Ado About Nothing, I think.

Leave it to the Larkin idiot to not know what "conduct unbecoming"
means.

But then... I guess that I just made a little ado about a
nothing. Ha! (two actually)

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 03:21:14 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
newsvkrieh5lrmk8m7merpve899ptqo7b6500@4ax.com:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:26:55 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 15/07/19 15:54, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 16:46:34 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all
comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a
lot of powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more
likely the whole thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm
wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of
wonder as bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just
harmless banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!

He didn't say "I grabbed them", he said "They let you grab
them."

How would he know that, unless he tried?

... and quite possibly succeeded in such
"transactional encounters" as Kissinger mentioned...

Which is basically what Kissinger said. Power has its
priviliges.

Well, if Kissinger said it, it must be alright.

But more seriously, I dislike judging yesterday's
behaviour by today's standards. It is fine to judge
a person's behaviour yesterday by yesterday's
standards.

Nonetheless, such raw "pussy grabbing" powerplays
were unappealing then and now. It is a similar
mentality to bullying.

Speak for yourself. Some guys like girls and, as the parties said,
some girls like to be grabbed.

As Shakespeare said, "The world must be peopled!"

Much Ado About Nothing, I think.

Leave it to the Larkin idiot to not know what "conduct unbecoming"
means.

Something to do with military officers?

But then... I guess that I just made a little ado about a
nothing. Ha! (two actually)

You've never grabbed a willing girl? I suppose not.

Being grabbed can be nice too.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com