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[Cursitor Doom]

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?



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[John Larkin]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

This could be an enormous, historical scandal, if anyone in law
enforcement is brave enough to persue it. Epstein got off easy, with
apparent political influence, in 2008.


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[bitrex]

On 7/9/19 8:41 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

for every filthy kid touching billionare, hollywood star, big name
musician and politician (of every affiliation) who gets caught there are
ten more who don't

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

This could be an enormous, historical scandal, if anyone in law
enforcement is brave enough to persue it. Epstein got off easy, with
apparent political influence, in 2008.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told New York Magazine at the time. “No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That goes pretty well with, "Grab 'em by the pussy".

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[Tom Gardner]

On 10/07/19 02:54, Rick C wrote:

On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

This could be an enormous, historical scandal, if anyone in law
enforcement is brave enough to persue it. Epstein got off easy, with
apparent political influence, in 2008.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told New York Magazine at the time. “No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That goes pretty well with, "Grab 'em by the pussy".

Just so

But many will cover their eyes and ears and go "la la la" to
such inconvenient truths.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in news:aTgVE.18481$cR3.16404@fx38.iad:

That goes pretty well with, "Grab 'em by the pussy".

If you watch the movie "Goldfinger" you will get where Trump got his
retarded personality from.

The dopey bastard actually thinks he is a combo of Goldfinger and
Bond.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/10/19 2:33 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 10/07/19 02:54, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

This could be an enormous, historical scandal, if anyone in law
enforcement is brave enough to persue it. Epstein got off easy, with
apparent political influence, in 2008.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and
many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told New York Magazine at
the time. “No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That goes pretty well with, "Grab 'em by the pussy".

Just so

But many will cover their eyes and ears and go "la la la" to
such inconvenient truths.

Trump's already rolling with his usual "Didn't really know the guy..."
Teflon Don-routine he's used about a dozen times, already.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:33:09 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/07/19 02:54, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 9:27:08 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 00:41:48 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

How did this pervert get so very rich?

This could be an enormous, historical scandal, if anyone in law
enforcement is brave enough to persue it. Epstein got off easy, with
apparent political influence, in 2008.

“It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side,” Trump told New York Magazine at the time. “No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

That goes pretty well with, "Grab 'em by the pussy".

Just so

But many will cover their eyes and ears and go "la la la" to
such inconvenient truths.

Trump threw Epstein out of his resort when he heard that he was
hitting on young girls. And he was reportedly the only associate of
Epstein who cooperated with investigating him. Look it up.

Bill Clinton just lied about how many times he flew on the Lolita
Express, and whether he ever did without his security escort.

Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging. That heart-throb Henry Kissinger said the same thing, less
graphically.


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[Cursitor Doom]

On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 07:14:57 -0700, John Larkin wrote:

> Epstein probably has dirt on a lot of people. I hope it all comes out.

Unfortunately, that's a non sequitur, John. If he has dirt on a lot of
powerful/rich people then AFAICS, that makes it more likely the whole
thing will be quietly buried. I hope I'm wrong, but time will tell.

The "grab them" quote seemed to be as much a statement of wonder as
bragging.

Nothing remarkable about the pussy-grabbing quote. It's just harmless
banter and IMO at least, it's quite funny!



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On Tuesday, July 9, 2019 at 8:41:51 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:

There's more to this story than meets the eye...

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/snyder-epstein-case-has-
potential-be-biggest-scandal-american-history

"The International Business Times reported that papers filed in a 2006 lawsuit alleged that Epstein installed concealed cameras in numerous places on his property to record sexual activity with underage girls by prominent people for criminal purposes, such as blackmail. Epstein allegedly "lent" girls to powerful people to ingratiate himself with them and also to gain possible blackmail information. In 2015, evidence came to light that one of the powerful men at Epstein's mansion may have been Prince Andrew, Duke of York.. A former employee told the police that Epstein would receive massages three times a day. Eventually the FBI received accounts from 36 girls whose allegations of molestation by Epstein included overlapping details."

How did this pervert get so very rich?

Because he's smart, supposedly brilliant at advising people on how to dodge taxes, and only accepts clienst with $1B net worth. You don't see anything about pedophilia, just underage girls. Underage is jurisdiction dependent. There are places where his acts are criminal and other places where his acts are not criminal. U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child marriages, this may change shortly:
https://www.npr.org/2019/02/15/695190681/u-s-agency-tightens-immigration-rules-to-spotlight-child-marriage

How much of a rube are you?

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[Tom Gardner]

On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
> U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

 

[bitrex]

On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably
use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and
there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually talking about
for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for girls
and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in Massachusetts,
the laws are still on the books but they're not enforced. Sodomy is also
still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested penalties likely involve
public flogging or doing time in the stocks in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:

On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are vague like
in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably use phrases like "be
the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and there's legal disagreement about
what age they're actually talking about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and judicial. In
the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is that the traditional
minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for girls and 14 for boys _may_ still
be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in Massachusetts, the laws
are still on the books but they're not enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in
Massachusetts. The suggested penalties likely involve public flogging or doing
time in the stocks in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X number of
the same unmarried gender living together are actually bordellos/sin houses are
still on the books here, too, and sometimes used by landlords to skirt around
later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
newsG9WE.11784$eB6.5531@fx30.iad:

Sodomy is also
still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested penalties likely
involve public flogging or doing time in the stocks in the town
square.

Nope. Most all states (Mass included) that had sodomy laws had
them updated decades ago, and the penalties were stiff prison
sentences. One was like 10 years for any (sex act) excepting
missionary (position classical).

So if anything, some states have rid themselves of those laws, and
some simply leave them 'on the books' as you say, but ignore (and
even participate in) violations.

It's a sod, sod world.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/13/19 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:
On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably
use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and
there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually talking
about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for
girls and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in
Massachusetts, the laws are still on the books but they're not
enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested
penalties likely involve public flogging or doing time in the stocks
in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

You know that unmarried women were de-facto not allowed to use credit
cards in the United States until like, 1982, right? Lol

 

[bitrex]

On 7/13/19 1:22 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/13/19 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:
On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and
probably use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue
Pure" and there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually
talking about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for
girls and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in
Massachusetts, the laws are still on the books but they're not
enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in Massachusetts. The
suggested penalties likely involve public flogging or doing time in
the stocks in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

My Puritan ancestors didn't really come here because they were
religiously oppressed, it was because England was too libertine in some
respects (I think burning witches and heretics had been mostly outlawed
by that point), and too constricting in others (having multiple child
brides was not a thing the Catholic or Anglican church looked upon too
fondly by that point, either.)

America was designed for freedom! The freedom to bang many children!
There was even an indigenous variant of Christianity developed called
Mormonism for the sake of banging many child brides in the service of
God. Though that's much less acceptable with the Mormons nowadays, and
they even formally recognized black people as humans circa 1980.

I don't know precisely how many witches my ancestors here in New England
burned it was probably quite a few. You can't just, y'know, have witches
running about casting spells on honest men's 9 year old brides to
possess them by the devil

 

[bitrex]

On 7/13/19 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:
On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably
use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and
there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually talking
about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for
girls and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in
Massachusetts, the laws are still on the books but they're not
enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested
penalties likely involve public flogging or doing time in the stocks
in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

My Puritan ancestors didn't really come here because they were
religiously oppressed, it was because England was too libertine in some
respects (I think burning witches and heretics had been mostly outlawed
by that point), and too constricting in others (having multiple child
brides was not a thing the Catholic or Anglican church looked upon too
fondly by that point, either.)

America was designed for freedom! The freedom to bang many children!
There was even an indigenous variant of Christianity developed called
Mormonism for the sake of banging many child brides in the service of
God. Though that's much less acceptable with the Mormons nowadays, and
they even formally recognized black people as humans circa 1980.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 1:36:17 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 7/13/19 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:
On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably
use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and
there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually talking
about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for
girls and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in
Massachusetts, the laws are still on the books but they're not
enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested
penalties likely involve public flogging or doing time in the stocks
in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

You know that unmarried women were de-facto not allowed to use credit
cards in the United States until like, 1982, right? Lol

Married women were not allowed to own property in their own name around that same time. Not sure if that is true still. Virginia is not very progressive.

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[bitrex]

On 7/13/19 9:12 PM, Rick C wrote:

On Saturday, July 13, 2019 at 1:36:17 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 7/13/19 2:28 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 01:34, bitrex wrote:
On 7/12/19 7:52 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 13/07/19 00:14, bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. immigration authorities still process applications for child
marriages,

It is worse than that, remarkably. Child marriages occur in the US.
17 states have *no minimum* age of marriage
In 2 states it is 14.
In 4 states it is 15.
It appears that there is a distinction between whether marriage
is allowed and the age of consent. No, I don't understand that.

"Sex in most states in the US is illegal under the age of 16-18.
But, as of January 2019, 17 American states have no legal minimum
age for marriage providing certain conditions – like pregnancy,
and consent from a judge or family – are met. This means that,
with parental permission, girls as young as 12 can be legally
wed to men much older than they are – but only if they’re
pregnant."

Is that clear now?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/fb2ba47b-8d50-4df1-aa42-b756e9fb26b4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

The laws on the age of consent and age of marriage in some states are
vague like in Massachusetts they're pushing 350 years old and probably
use phrases like "be the Girle a Chaste Womanye of Virtue Pure" and
there's legal disagreement about what age they're actually talking
about for things like sex, and marriage.

"Consent can be just judicial, but is normally both parental and
judicial. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, one opinion is
that the traditional minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for
girls and 14 for boys _may_ still be in effect."

Sex outside of marriage at all is technically illegal in
Massachusetts, the laws are still on the books but they're not
enforced. Sodomy is also still illegal in Massachusetts. The suggested
penalties likely involve public flogging or doing time in the stocks
in the town square.

Laws against "Living in sin" and that dwellings that have more than X
number of the same unmarried gender living together are actually
bordellos/sin houses are still on the books here, too, and sometimes
used by landlords to skirt around later fair housing laws

Whatever.

Laws that allow adults to avoid charges of statutory rape
by marrying the child victim are something that I would
associate with medieval feudal societies and religions.

They have no place whatsoever in a civilised society.
And the obvious corollary holds.

You know that unmarried women were de-facto not allowed to use credit
cards in the United States until like, 1982, right? Lol

Married women were not allowed to own property in their own name around that same time. Not sure if that is true still. Virginia is not very progressive.

Yeah it may have been that married women couldn't have a credit card in
their own name but unmarried women could, rather.