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And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.




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On 7/19/2019 7:33 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.
Dr. Drew is concerned the exploding Rat population is going to lead
to a plague epidemic.
> https://youtu.be/Iv_kNfMCBM4?t=54

Mikek
 
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 20:24:34 -0500, amdx wrote:

Dr. Drew is concerned the exploding Rat population is going to lead
to a plague epidemic.
https://youtu.be/Iv_kNfMCBM4?t=54

Bill Sloman will be gloating over that.




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On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 11:54:36 AM UTC+2, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 20:24:34 -0500, amdx wrote:

Dr. Drew is concerned the exploding Rat population is going to lead
to a plague epidemic.
https://youtu.be/Iv_kNfMCBM4?t=54

Bill Sloman will be gloating over that.

One has to wonder why Cursitor Doom might think that. I'm decidedly unsympathetic to the noxious rodents who infest this group, but since they do include Cursitor Doom he might not have noticed the connection.

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Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> wrote in
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https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in
California have warmer weather to be homeless in.
But they are brainless idiots. I heard stories from homeless folks
that "went their" to see. They said that folks at one 'location'
were all defecating and leaving it outside their tents. Like that
was the standard procedure!

Meth cookshops, redlight tents, robberies and thefts.

Fuck talking about the rats, the human rats are worse!
 
On Saturday, 20 July 2019 16:58:51 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet & timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that way.


NT
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.


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On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, 20 July 2019 16:58:51 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet & timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that way.


NT

Homelessness is approaching a billion dollar industry in SF. The money
goes to "providers", fat-cats who run non-profits, lawyers,
politicians, landlords, psychologists, therapists, all sorts of
well-housed prople. Numbers run like $100K/year per homeless person.
It's like the gourmet cheese business, where the homeless people are
the cows.

Now people who are "housed" in vehicles will get free RV parks. We can
put up billboards all over the Americas, "Free RV parking and services
in San Francisco."






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On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:39:13 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person
qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink
estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process
though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is
the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they
wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet &
timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite
protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that
way.

Yeah, that and the fact that the EUSSR says we have to take all comers
regardless of the consequences. And this is one of those consequences.




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On Saturday, 20 July 2019 20:20:31 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 20 July 2019 16:58:51 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet & timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that way.


NT

Homelessness is approaching a billion dollar industry in SF. The money
goes to "providers", fat-cats who run non-profits, lawyers,
politicians, landlords, psychologists, therapists, all sorts of
well-housed prople. Numbers run like $100K/year per homeless person.
It's like the gourmet cheese business, where the homeless people are
the cows.

Now people who are "housed" in vehicles will get free RV parks. We can
put up billboards all over the Americas, "Free RV parking and services
in San Francisco."

And you get extorted to pay for all the bs


NT
 
On Saturday, July 20, 2019 at 6:39:18 PM UTC+2, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, 20 July 2019 16:58:51 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet & timeshared shower.

It is called a poorhouse, and Britain used to have quite a few of them.

> We have lots of homeless because, despite protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that way.

"Care in the Community" seems to be cheaper than institutionalising non-violent lunatics - your "not mentally well enough to get through the process".

Poorhouses and lunatic asylums do have their weak points - the UK government's choice to phase them out wasn't entirely irrational.

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On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 14:53:35 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, 20 July 2019 20:20:31 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:39:13 -0700 (PDT), tabbypurr wrote:
On Saturday, 20 July 2019 16:58:51 UTC+1, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:33:40 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
curd@notformail.com> wrote:

https://tinyurl.com/y62k8x3z

And to be fair, London's no better! At least the homeless in California
have warmer weather to be homeless in.

"Build it and they will come."

SF does not desperately need more housing. The demand is essentially
infinite. What SF needs is fewer jobs.

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet & timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that way.


NT

Homelessness is approaching a billion dollar industry in SF. The money
goes to "providers", fat-cats who run non-profits, lawyers,
politicians, landlords, psychologists, therapists, all sorts of
well-housed prople. Numbers run like $100K/year per homeless person.
It's like the gourmet cheese business, where the homeless people are
the cows.

Now people who are "housed" in vehicles will get free RV parks. We can
put up billboards all over the Americas, "Free RV parking and services
in San Francisco."

And you get extorted to pay for all the bs


NT

Well, we pay sales taxes mostly, plus a few small extra assessments on
property taxes to reduce liberal guilt. The income tax is the same
across California.

We're pretty happy here, because we avoid the seedy parts of town.

There is just so much money here it's astonishing. Of course it can't
last.




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lunatic fringe electronics
 
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 20:02:39 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 09:39:13 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:

Here the whole thing is political. Almost every homeless person
qualifies for housing benefit, which pays for a modest flat on a sink
estate. They're not all mentally well enough to get through the process
though, & the benefit system likes to play games with people. Reality is
the govt could give them free housing of a much cheaper nature if they
wanted to sort the social issue out, just a minimal room & toilet &
timeshared shower. We have lots of homeless because, despite
protestations to the contrary, the government chooses to have it that
way.

Yeah, that and the fact that the EUSSR says we have to take all comers
regardless of the consequences. And this is one of those consequences.

Does your use of the word "we" mean that you have returned to the UK?

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On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:03:40 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

> Does your use of the word "we" mean that you have returned to the UK?

No, and I have no plans to. But wherever I may be in the world, I'll
always be British and identify as such. Except when I'm travelling on my
second passport for safety reasons, but that's another matter.



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On Saturday, July 27, 2019 at 5:04:00 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:03:40 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

Does your use of the word "we" mean that you have returned to the UK?

No, and I have no plans to. But wherever I may be in the world, I'll
always be British and identify as such. Except when I'm travelling on my
second passport for safety reasons, but that's another matter.

Cursitor Doom clearly has no shame about trashing the UK by presenting himself as British. His ignorance and his passion for right-wing misinformation are faults which do show up in a small (if vociferous) fraction of the UK population, but he isn't representative. Neither is Boris Johnson, but you'd have to be nuts to take on the job of leading the Conservative Party and being Prime Minister at this particular moment, and complaining about the nature of the lunacy that lets him take on the job would be a bit churlish.

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On Fri, 26 Jul 2019 19:03:55 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<curd@notformail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 16:03:40 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

Does your use of the word "we" mean that you have returned to the UK?

No, and I have no plans to. But wherever I may be in the world, I'll
always be British and identify as such. Except when I'm travelling on my
second passport for safety reasons, but that's another matter.

Come back and pay your taxes, you tight fisted git.

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On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:14:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

> Come back and pay your taxes, you tight fisted git.

I beg your pardon?? I don't owe *any* taxes to the UK exchequer (or that
of any other jurisdiction for that matter!)





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On Friday, August 2, 2019 at 4:53:39 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:14:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

Come back and pay your taxes, you tight-fisted git.

I beg your pardon?? I don't owe *any* taxes to the UK exchequer (or that
of any other jurisdiction for that matter!).

Does that mean that you don't have any income?

> Leave first - THEN negotiate!

For the UK - which doesn't have a lot to export - negotiating after leaving the EU is likely to leave the politicians doing the negotiation having to cope with hurry-up calls from a starving population.

Boris Johnson wouldn't worry. He has a lot of fat reserves to work through and is happy to lie to people who are less well-padded, but saner negotiators would be put under pressure. Though most of them would have bailed out some time ago, and presumably immigrated to countries where sanity in politicians was more highly valued.

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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 18:53:35 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom
<CD@noreply.com> wrote:

On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:14:37 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

Come back and pay your taxes, you tight fisted git.

I beg your pardon?? I don't owe *any* taxes to the UK exchequer (or that
of any other jurisdiction for that matter!)

Come back anyway. The thicko brekshitters here would welcome you with
open arms.

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On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 09:33:32 +0100, Pomegranate Bastard wrote:

Come back anyway. The thicko brekshitters here would welcome you with
open arms.

I'm waiting to see if Britain actually Leaves or not *before* I make any
such decision. IF the wishes of the voters are respected, as I EXPECT
them to be (if the UK is a true democracy) then you may well see your
wish granted! Nice to know I'm still popular with Remoaners like
yourself. :-D




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