OT: Gun Death Becoming Accepted...

[Ricky]

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?

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[John Doe]

Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting forger is trolling off-topic and other posts
with its copy of my ID, then replies (or not) to its own post, strangely, as if it
were replying to me.

See also...
Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com> (unlikely but possible)

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It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptab=
le byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I =
don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think i=
t is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops. =20

How many people find that acceptable? =20

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[Edward Hernandez]

How stupid is the John Doe troll?

The John Doe troll posting one of its vacuous insults at 05:39:20 UTC on
20 Mar 2022 with a grammatical error:

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790428800

Then, at 05:55:56 UTC, 16 minutes and 36 seconds later, the John Doe
troll responds to its own post with a correction, but stupidly forgets
that it sets a Followup-To: header to the \"alt.test.group\", resulting in
its correction article posting only to \"alt.test.group\":

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790440700

The John Doe troll, mister \"always.look@message.header\", is so stupid it
does not even remember it sets a Followup-To: header in its own vacuous
insults.

Special thanks to corvid <bl@ckb.ird> for pointing out the stupidity of
the John Doe troll:

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165594737000

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Wed, 6 Jul 2022 10:36:10 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<ta3oiq$orp$13@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that John Doe does not even follow
the rules it uses to troll other posters.

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[Edward Hernandez]

John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
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Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe\'s post ratio to
USENET (**) has been 67.9% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
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1611 have been John Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
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The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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[John Larkin]

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 19:17:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/5/2022 6:52 PM, Ricky wrote:
It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?


Government can ram through just about any restrictions it likes in the
name of patriotism when people who matter are killed, see e.g. 9/11.

Mass shootings don\'t tend to kill anyone who matters, though.
Just normal Christian-nation behavior. You\'re God\'s gift while you\'re
unborn, but you ain\'t shit after that

I don\'t think the real causalities have been investigated very well.
My guess is that some young males are warped by too much Internet and
shootem-up games combined with legal and illegal drugs.

Hollywood gets some blame too. It\'s all guns, guns, violence, guns.

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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 16:11:09 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 6:58:20 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?
Context:

.<https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf

See page 11.

Did you have anything to say about it? Are you asking someone to explain the data to you?

..<https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/context>


Joe Gwinn

 

[bitrex]

On 7/6/2022 1:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 19:17:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/5/2022 6:52 PM, Ricky wrote:
It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?


Government can ram through just about any restrictions it likes in the
name of patriotism when people who matter are killed, see e.g. 9/11.

Mass shootings don\'t tend to kill anyone who matters, though.
Just normal Christian-nation behavior. You\'re God\'s gift while you\'re
unborn, but you ain\'t shit after that

I don\'t think the real causalities have been investigated very well.
My guess is that some young males are warped by too much Internet and
shootem-up games combined with legal and illegal drugs.

None of the easy explanations seem satisfactory individually to explain
the phenomenon.

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse; I don\'t think use of violent video games or music is strongly
correlated. The Virginia Tech shooter\'s favorite song had the chorus
\"Heaven let your light shine down\", not exactly gangsta rap...Most
aren\'t habitual drug users and don\'t have a previous diagnosis of mental
illness.

> Hollywood gets some blame too. It\'s all guns, guns, violence, guns.

Some might say they know what sells..

 

[Don]

bitrex wrote:
<snip>

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse;

The perp seems far too social to be a loner. He looks like he wants to
be the center of attention in this photo:

https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/crimo12.png?resize=470,531

Note the female ?journalist? with a microphone at the extreme left.

He\'s a social man - note the size of his fan base:

Crimo is an aspiring rapper also known as Awake the Rapper.
One song on his Spotify profile has 2 million listens. One
of his videos is called \"Famous.\"

https://heavy.com/news/robert-crimo-iii/

Danke,

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She set out one day In a relative way And returned on the previous night.

 

[bitrex]

On 7/6/2022 5:07 PM, Don wrote:

bitrex wrote:
snip

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse;

The perp seems far too social to be a loner. He looks like he wants to
be the center of attention in this photo:

https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/crimo12.png?resize=470,531

Note the female ?journalist? with a microphone at the extreme left.

He\'s a social man - note the size of his fan base:

Crimo is an aspiring rapper also known as Awake the Rapper.
One song on his Spotify profile has 2 million listens. One
of his videos is called \"Famous.\"

https://heavy.com/news/robert-crimo-iii/

Danke,

An attention-seeking loner isn\'t unusual. And with social media you can
be an aspiring rapper with thousands of fans on the Internet but few or
no real friends, these days.

See e.g.

<https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/us/highland-park-suspect-family.html>

\"In 2017, the Lopezes’ older brother, Anthony LaPorte, died of a heroin
overdose.

Mr. Crimo spoke at the funeral, the brothers recalled.

\'He was very upset, saying my brother was one of his only friends,\'
Nicolas Lopez said.

He said that he believed a woman Mr. Crimo was dating also broke up with
him around that same time.\"

 

[bitrex]

On 7/6/2022 5:26 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 7/6/2022 5:07 PM, Don wrote:
bitrex wrote:
snip

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse;

The perp seems far too social to be a loner. He looks like he wants to
be the center of attention in this photo:

https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/crimo12.png?resize=470,531

Note the female ?journalist? with a microphone at the extreme left.

He\'s a social man - note the size of his fan base:

     Crimo is an aspiring rapper also known as Awake the Rapper.
     One song on his Spotify profile has 2 million listens. One
     of his videos is called \"Famous.\"

     https://heavy.com/news/robert-crimo-iii/

Danke,


An attention-seeking loner isn\'t unusual. And with social media you can
be an aspiring rapper with thousands of fans on the Internet but few or
no real friends, these days.

See e.g.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/us/highland-park-suspect-family.html

\"In 2017, the Lopezes’ older brother, Anthony LaPorte, died of a heroin
overdose.

Mr. Crimo spoke at the funeral, the brothers recalled.

\'He was very upset, saying my brother was one of his only friends,\'
Nicolas Lopez said.

He said that he believed a woman Mr. Crimo was dating also broke up with
him around that same time.\"

Seems like a smart lady. Young women around that age do tend to be
smarter than the young men

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2022 15:48:08 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/6/2022 1:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 19:17:50 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 7/5/2022 6:52 PM, Ricky wrote:
It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?


Government can ram through just about any restrictions it likes in the
name of patriotism when people who matter are killed, see e.g. 9/11.

Mass shootings don\'t tend to kill anyone who matters, though.
Just normal Christian-nation behavior. You\'re God\'s gift while you\'re
unborn, but you ain\'t shit after that

I don\'t think the real causalities have been investigated very well.
My guess is that some young males are warped by too much Internet and
shootem-up games combined with legal and illegal drugs.
None of the easy explanations seem satisfactory individually to explain
the phenomenon.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-gun-control-doesnt-stop-bad-people-guns

Modern weed is far more potent than the stuff from the 60\'s too. Maybe
enough to make fragile kids psychotic.

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse; I don\'t think use of violent video games or music is strongly
correlated. The Virginia Tech shooter\'s favorite song had the chorus
\"Heaven let your light shine down\", not exactly gangsta rap...Most
aren\'t habitual drug users and don\'t have a previous diagnosis of mental
illness.

Hollywood gets some blame too. It\'s all guns, guns, violence, guns.

Some might say they know what sells..

Drug dealers know too.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon

 

[Don]

bitrex wrote:

Don wrote:
bitrex wrote:
snip

Other than being young male loners the profile tends to be relatively
diverse;

The perp seems far too social to be a loner. He looks like he wants to
be the center of attention in this photo:

https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/crimo12.png?resize=470,531

Note the female ?journalist? with a microphone at the extreme left.

He\'s a social man - note the size of his fan base:

Crimo is an aspiring rapper also known as Awake the Rapper.
One song on his Spotify profile has 2 million listens. One
of his videos is called \"Famous.\"

https://heavy.com/news/robert-crimo-iii/

Danke,


An attention-seeking loner isn\'t unusual. And with social media you can
be an aspiring rapper with thousands of fans on the Internet but few or
no real friends, these days.

See e.g.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/05/us/highland-park-suspect-family.html

\"In 2017, the Lopezes’ older brother, Anthony LaPorte, died of a heroin
overdose.

Mr. Crimo spoke at the funeral, the brothers recalled.

\'He was very upset, saying my brother was one of his only friends,\'
Nicolas Lopez said.

He said that he believed a woman Mr. Crimo was dating also broke up with
him around that same time.\"

There\'s something cognitive dissonant about a loner who socializes.

Charlotte Bank, who attended a vigil for the victims on
Tuesday afternoon, said she knew Crimo from Thursday night
small-group gatherings and Sunday services at Christ Church
Highland Park, a nondenominational church.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/07/05/highland-park-shooting-suspect-motive/7809069001/

Danke,

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[a a]

On Wednesday, 6 July 2022 at 00:52:22 UTC+2, Ricky wrote:

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?

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[Joe Gwinn]

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?

Context:

..<https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf>

See page 11.

Joe Gwinn

 

[Ricky]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 6:58:20 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:

On Tue, 5 Jul 2022 15:52:19 -0700 (PDT), Ricky
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?
Context:

.<https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr70/nvsr70-09-508.pdf

See page 11.

Did you have anything to say about it? Are you asking someone to explain the data to you?

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[bitrex]

On 7/5/2022 6:52 PM, Ricky wrote:

It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?

Government can ram through just about any restrictions it likes in the
name of patriotism when people who matter are killed, see e.g. 9/11.

Mass shootings don\'t tend to kill anyone who matters, though.
Just normal Christian-nation behavior. You\'re God\'s gift while you\'re
unborn, but you ain\'t shit after that

 

[Rich S]

On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 11:17:57 PM UTC, bitrex wrote:

On 7/5/2022 6:52 PM, Ricky wrote:
It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptable byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think it is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops.

How many people find that acceptable?

Government can ram through just about any restrictions it likes in the
name of patriotism when people who matter are killed, see e.g. 9/11.

Mass shootings don\'t tend to kill anyone who matters, though.
Just normal Christian-nation behavior. You\'re God\'s gift while you\'re
unborn, but you ain\'t shit after that

Re link to CDC\'s list of causes of death.
I infer your argument is
\"we should not find a solution to a problem because other
problems are more frequent\"
There are some cognitive failures here, that, I hope
those of us who work in QA, recognize. It makes no sense to
selectively ignore some problems, and only focus on others.
A improvement to whole system requires we consider
all problems, \"big\" and \"small\". We have the resources
(except for the resource of common will) to
fix all sizes of problems.
Second, we do not wait for \"Death\", until is problem is
serious. The consequences are so very many, the need
to solve it is just as important as, say, infection from
salmonella.

 

[John Doe]

If the cannibal left were upset about gun crime, they would stop coddling
gun-toting criminals.

 

[John Doe]

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It seems like we have simply accepted that death by shooting is an acceptab=
le byproduct of the second amendment and we should do nothing about it. I =
don\'t know how many mass shootings there have been this year, but I think i=
t is averaging one a week. Often, the victims are cops. =20

How many people find that acceptable? =20

--=20

Rick C.

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 9:39:20 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

If the cannibal left were upset about gun crime, they would stop coddling gun-toting criminals.

How does the left coddle gun-toting criminals?

The right lets not-yet criminals carry around their own gun until the decided to become gun-toting criminals. In theory this allows for self-defense against gun-toting criminals, but in practice more gun owners kill themselves - up to 25 per 100,000 per year in the worst US states - than they kill gun-toting criminal (less than one per ten million per year). The NRA publicises every example they can find - about ten a year in a population of 320 million. They don\'t make the same kind of fuss about gun-owners who go nuts - become gun-toting criminals - and shoot quite a few more innocent by-standers every year.

It\'s insane.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney