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John Devereux
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rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> writes:
She makes me.
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She makes me.
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amdx
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On 8/19/2015 12:09 PM, dcaster@krl.org wrote:
job, yet do it for 30 years? I would opine that 1/2 the workers (*16% of
the population) would not work at their job if they could receive the
same income.
If they had enough money from investments, many people would retire,
then some of those would say, I'm bored, I'd rather be bored at work
than at home.
I know a 55 year old guy that has a good pension, yet he can't find
enough to do, so he drives a big yellow school bus five days a week.
In 2014 the population was 319 million, the number of people working
was 120 million. 120/319 = 31%
31% of the population pay for... well that's not true!
About 1/2 of the people working don't pay any Federal taxes. So 15% of
the population pays to support the government.
Hmm.
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hmm, how many factory workers doing a repetitive chore enjoy there
job, yet do it for 30 years? I would opine that 1/2 the workers (*16% of
the population) would not work at their job if they could receive the
same income.
If they had enough money from investments, many people would retire,
then some of those would say, I'm bored, I'd rather be bored at work
than at home.
I know a 55 year old guy that has a good pension, yet he can't find
enough to do, so he drives a big yellow school bus five days a week.
In 2014 the population was 319 million, the number of people working
was 120 million. 120/319 = 31%
31% of the population pay for... well that's not true!
About 1/2 of the people working don't pay any Federal taxes. So 15% of
the population pays to support the government.
Hmm.
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Bill Sloman
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On Thursday, 20 August 2015 02:06:03 UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
That's one way of using the capitalist system to make some money.
The argument that a CEO is working 400 times harder, or 400 times more productively than the average employee in his organsation does lack credibility.
You wouldn't have any trouble with it because you do have delusions about your own competence - you may be good, but you aren't insanely good.
Surely you would have fixed the electronics by now?
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That's one way of using the capitalist system to make some money.
The argument that a CEO is working 400 times harder, or 400 times more productively than the average employee in his organsation does lack credibility.
You wouldn't have any trouble with it because you do have delusions about your own competence - you may be good, but you aren't insanely good.
Others have figured out how to use the government system to get unearned
money.
Then some just figured out how to live paycheck to paycheck.
Others are so involved in there passion that they only care about
having enough money to let them chase their passion.
You and I won't be equal until I start drinking wine.
Also trade my 97 T-100 for an Audi.(not going to happen)
I like my 4WD A3. It's mechanically wonderful, brutally powerful, but
the electronics sucks.
Surely you would have fixed the electronics by now?
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Bill Sloman
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On Thursday, 20 August 2015 02:03:23 UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
It's not immigration that's crushing the US middle class, it's a series of political choices that started under Reagan and have been going on ever since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level:_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better
The US is almost uniquely bad in this respect - only Singapore is worse, and only Portugal comes close - and it has achieved this distinction there since 1970, when it's income distribution was almost respectable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
The existence of right-wing nitwits doesn't preclude the existence of left-wing nitwits.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
It's not immigration that's crushing the US middle class, it's a series of political choices that started under Reagan and have been going on ever since.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level:_Why_More_Equal_Societies_Almost_Always_Do_Better
The US is almost uniquely bad in this respect - only Singapore is worse, and only Portugal comes close - and it has achieved this distinction there since 1970, when it's income distribution was almost respectable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_United_States
The existence of right-wing nitwits doesn't preclude the existence of left-wing nitwits.
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Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:05:37 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
Only in leftists states... but that's changing... Obama just killed
coal-fired facilities. Enjoy!
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
Only in leftists states... but that's changing... Obama just killed
coal-fired facilities. Enjoy!
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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amdx
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On 8/19/2015 12:05 PM, rickman wrote:
"How much is "not all that much"> Where are you and what fuel produces
your electricity?
Are you unaware of what's going on in the coal industry?
And thus the price of electricity, at least until they change over to
Nat. Gas.
Do some research it is amazing all jobs lost mostly because of EPA regs,
that Obama pushed to, as he said, To necessarily bankrupt coal.
Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would
necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal
is good or bad, Obama said in 2008.
From the NY Times,
"Peabody Energy and Arch Coal, the nations two largest producers may
just be a matter of time, based on their recent stock performance.
Peabody shares, which traded at more than $16 less than a year ago, hit
99 cents this week, and Arch shares have fallen to $1 from more than
$33, making them among the biggest losers this year in the Standard &
Poors 500-stock index."
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"How much is "not all that much"> Where are you and what fuel produces
your electricity?
Are you unaware of what's going on in the coal industry?
And thus the price of electricity, at least until they change over to
Nat. Gas.
Do some research it is amazing all jobs lost mostly because of EPA regs,
that Obama pushed to, as he said, To necessarily bankrupt coal.
Under my plan of a cap-and-trade system, electricity rates would
necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal
is good or bad, Obama said in 2008.
From the NY Times,
"Peabody Energy and Arch Coal, the nations two largest producers may
just be a matter of time, based on their recent stock performance.
Peabody shares, which traded at more than $16 less than a year ago, hit
99 cents this week, and Arch shares have fallen to $1 from more than
$33, making them among the biggest losers this year in the Standard &
Poors 500-stock index."
Mikek
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 11:18:00 AM UTC-4, John Devereux wrote:
You might find this study interesting--
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/design/2012/07/new-research-finds-urban-form-plays-little-role-sustainability/2680/
" New research published in the spring issue of the Journal of the American
Planning Association finds that - unlike today's dominant narrative of the
green city - urban form may actually have very little impact on energy use
and other measures of sustainability."
Cheers,
James Arthur
You might find this study interesting--
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/design/2012/07/new-research-finds-urban-form-plays-little-role-sustainability/2680/
" New research published in the spring issue of the Journal of the American
Planning Association finds that - unlike today's dominant narrative of the
green city - urban form may actually have very little impact on energy use
and other measures of sustainability."
Cheers,
James Arthur
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dcaster@krl.org
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:15:23 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:
I always tried to train people so they could do my job. When they were good enough , they could take my job and I could go on to something different..
My taking vacations allowed the people I was training a chance to prove they were able to take my job. Sometimes it showed my supervisor that I was a whole lot better at the job than my trainee.
Usually it worked out well. One time I tried to turn my job over to the person I was training while I stayed in the same building. My trainee told me politely but firmly to go the hell somewhere else. She said the crew would always be lookng to me for help and direction if I were close by. So I moved.
She did great.
Dan
I always tried to train people so they could do my job. When they were good enough , they could take my job and I could go on to something different..
My taking vacations allowed the people I was training a chance to prove they were able to take my job. Sometimes it showed my supervisor that I was a whole lot better at the job than my trainee.
Usually it worked out well. One time I tried to turn my job over to the person I was training while I stayed in the same building. My trainee told me politely but firmly to go the hell somewhere else. She said the crew would always be lookng to me for help and direction if I were close by. So I moved.
She did great.
Dan
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 12:34:18 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
Hilarious. Thanks!
Cheers,
James Arthur
Hilarious. Thanks!
Cheers,
James Arthur
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rickman
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On 8/19/2015 5:10 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
Oh no! Carbo Carbonicide!
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Oh no! Carbo Carbonicide!
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 10:12:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
I did, but retired at 34. It's pretty fun. Of course, paradoxically, I
work more than ever.
Cheers,
James Arthur
I did, but retired at 34. It's pretty fun. Of course, paradoxically, I
work more than ever.
Cheers,
James Arthur
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krw
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 10:09:40 -0700 (PDT), "dcaster@krl.org"
<dcaster@krl.org> wrote:
easier. When you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're pretty much
forced to put up with any shit the boss want's to shovel on you.
<dcaster@krl.org> wrote:
When you don't have to work, it makes finding enjoyable work a *lot*
easier. When you're living paycheck to paycheck, you're pretty much
forced to put up with any shit the boss want's to shovel on you.
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krw
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:15:19 -0400, rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
I find that when I've had the best jobs, I've hated both Mondays AND
Fridays. It means a good balance of work and life. Vacations are the
same but more so.
I find that when I've had the best jobs, I've hated both Mondays AND
Fridays. It means a good balance of work and life. Vacations are the
same but more so.
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John Larkin
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 11:34:09 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:
Why would anybody want to do that?
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Why would anybody want to do that?
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George Herold
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On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 at 1:31:29 PM UTC-4, John Devereux wrote:
+1
I'd be happy spending a week or two at home
puttering around.
George H.
+1
I'd be happy spending a week or two at home
puttering around.
George H.
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 04:42:58 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<gherold@teachspin.com> Gave us:
I spend most of my time fitting out the half million dollar
development lab downstairs.
Last week was an agilent spectrum analyzer/signal generator for 8GHz.
Currently looking at an ENA Network analyzer to add.
<gherold@teachspin.com> Gave us:
I spend most of my time fitting out the half million dollar
development lab downstairs.
Last week was an agilent spectrum analyzer/signal generator for 8GHz.
Currently looking at an ENA Network analyzer to add.
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Les Cargill
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John Devereux wrote:
Maybe. I remain unsure that anyone can actually do the math
to say.
Just the example of the wood stove ( in a "maybe we don't really know"
way ) - for any given section of tree, it'll return roughly the same
carbon whether it's burned or left to rot. It may also offset carbon
from extractive fossil fuels. So the details get complicated fast.
All this being said - large quantities of people commuting is awful for
the environment. That has a lot to do with how we subsidize and tax
land use.
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Maybe. I remain unsure that anyone can actually do the math
to say.
Just the example of the wood stove ( in a "maybe we don't really know"
way ) - for any given section of tree, it'll return roughly the same
carbon whether it's burned or left to rot. It may also offset carbon
from extractive fossil fuels. So the details get complicated fast.
All this being said - large quantities of people commuting is awful for
the environment. That has a lot to do with how we subsidize and tax
land use.
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amdx
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On 8/19/2015 9:12 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Forget about yourself and engineers doing cool stuff, and look around at
all the stuff people do for a living.
Do you really think EVERYONE wants to spend 40 hrs at their job.
A roofer in Florida, ya I love carrying 60 lb bundles up at ladder at
96* with 85% humidity.
Road paver, putting down hot tar.
Cashier standing 7 hrs a day at a cash register.
Bus driver with mouthy kids.
School teacher, ya some love it, some hate it.
People that work for an asshole boss
Carpet layer
Cook at a breakfast house.
laborer
Meat packer
Oil rig worker
lumberjack
Corrections officer
Most of the dirty jobs that Mike Rowe had on his show
People do these only to get paid, not because they love it.
Lot of these things would be fun as a project, but to know you need
to do this everyday to keep your family fed and housed, many would be
happy to have enough money to do things other than work.
Also when you retire, you can work at whatever you want.
Or from another prospective
They want to travel
pursue a passion
charity work
Artistic pursuit
Write
Spend more time with their brat
hold down the hammock
Hobbies
That's why.
Mikek
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Lots of reasons.
Forget about yourself and engineers doing cool stuff, and look around at
all the stuff people do for a living.
Do you really think EVERYONE wants to spend 40 hrs at their job.
A roofer in Florida, ya I love carrying 60 lb bundles up at ladder at
96* with 85% humidity.
Road paver, putting down hot tar.
Cashier standing 7 hrs a day at a cash register.
Bus driver with mouthy kids.
School teacher, ya some love it, some hate it.
People that work for an asshole boss
Carpet layer
Cook at a breakfast house.
laborer
Meat packer
Oil rig worker
lumberjack
Corrections officer
Most of the dirty jobs that Mike Rowe had on his show
People do these only to get paid, not because they love it.
Lot of these things would be fun as a project, but to know you need
to do this everyday to keep your family fed and housed, many would be
happy to have enough money to do things other than work.
Also when you retire, you can work at whatever you want.
Or from another prospective
They want to travel
pursue a passion
charity work
Artistic pursuit
Write
Spend more time with their brat
hold down the hammock
Hobbies
That's why.
Mikek
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:45:32 -0700 (PDT), the renowned
dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
Pick something that's fun and you'll never work a day in your life.
Well, maybe at tax time.
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dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com wrote:
Pick something that's fun and you'll never work a day in your life.
Well, maybe at tax time.
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:17:46 -0400, the renowned rickman
<gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
I think killing coal is called "Anthracide".
--sp
(we already have "kayactivists" and folks out to "rappel Shell").
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<gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
I think killing coal is called "Anthracide".
--sp
(we already have "kayactivists" and folks out to "rappel Shell").
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