OT: Getting climate change under cotrol.

On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 12:57:03 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 08:53:58 -0000 (UTC), gregz <zekor@comcast.net
wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
The lasts Proceedings of the (US) National Academy of Sciences has an intereswtign article

https://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2020/01/14/1900577117.full.pdf

It's about the social changes that will be needed to stop us making too
big a mess of the planet over the next thirty years.

Our resident denialists won't like it.

The agreers might not like it more. They think government can solve things
that don't involve them.

According to - inter alia - the Enclyopaedia Britannica (no less) the
level of CO2 in the atmosphere has remained pretty much constant over
the period between 1910 and 2009 at just under 400ppm.

You'd better post a link to the Encyclopedia Britannica article.

It happens to be wrong. The technology to measure atmospheric CO2 wasn't all that highly developed in 1910, and there are figures for atmospheric CO2 levels from that period which are as high as 400ppm. Once Keeling had worked out how to do it right the errors became fairly obvious.

Greenland and Antarctic ice core data make it fairly clear that the interglacial CO2 level has been about 280 ppm for the last 800,000 years.

It had got up to 315ppm in 1958, when Keeling started doing reliable measurements and it has been rising ever since

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keeling_Curve

> If that level hasn't changed during the most industrial period in human history then man-made global warming is barely even junk pseudo-science and those who espouse warmist propaganda need to be thought of in the same terms as those other nutcases who believe the world is flat and that the moon landings were faked.

Sadly for your rhetoric, it has changed and it's you who is advancing junk-pseudo-science. It's not even pseudo-science but rather self-interested lying propaganda spread by people who want to keep on digging up and selling fossil carbon as fuel despite the problems created by ever-increasing CO2 levels in teh atmosphere.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 11:25:03 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 22:07:41 +0000, Clive Arthur
cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

Nothing worse than an attention-seeker with a set of crayons.

Draw your own conclusions. He has, literally.

Third-wit was in my KF for so long I forgot all about him. Then I
changed newsreaders and up he crops again with a bunch of fellow,
mostly-forgotten-about trolls who like to waste bandwidth here. Every
newsgroup's got 'em. :(

Any news group that Cursitor Doom chooses to haunt has immediately got at least one.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 1:50:51 PM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 12:13:57 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 5:57:03 AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:

According to - inter alia - the Enclyopaedia Britannica (no less) the
level of CO2 in the atmosphere has remained pretty much constant over
the period between 1910 and 2009 ...

False.

How would *you* possibly know? Do you possess those actual, physical,
full sets of encyclopaedias?

I have both print and software Britannica editions, but he didn't give any
reference to an article, so I consulted another reference, and cited it.

See here: <https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/

Ah, I see where you went wrong now. Online sources; they cannot be
trusted. It's far too easy to revise history with anything published
in electronic form.

Silly to pay taxes and not use the resources made available.

Neither the last few years' data nor the last few decades shows any 'constant' character.

I don't doubt it. You're probably looking at that ridiculous hockey
stick curve popularised by Al Bore.

So, despite the citation, you didn't read the reference?
Lazy of you, in addition to silly.
 
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 19:25:48 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Silly to pay taxes and not use the resources made available.

Yeah, even if they insult your intelligence and rot your brain.
You're the kind of person who if you lived in the UK, would be happily
paying the TV licence fee and credulously devouring every apocryphal
utterance of the BBC.
 
On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 8:53:14 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 19:25:48 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com
wrote:

Silly to pay taxes and not use the resources made available.

Yeah, even if they insult your intelligence and rot your brain.
You're the kind of person who if you lived in the UK, would be happily
paying the TV licence fee and credulously devouring every apocryphal
utterance of the BBC.

Cursitor Doom prefers to credulously devour everything published by Russia Today and ZeroHedge. Why not? They specialise in serving up the kind of nonsense that appeals to right-wing nit-wits like Cursitor Doom, and don't waste any time on keeping it plausible.

It's not as if he has any intelligence to insult.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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