OT: Folder Options (XP)

[Robert Baer]

Rick C wrote:

On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:55:47 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 20/10/2019 06:59, Robert Baer wrote:
    Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.

    So, why do i have to (ranDUMBly) fiddle with a previously set folder?
    Most of the time, the type column is fairly wide; sometimes the
whole folder is in the thumbnails or tiles mode.

    Is it unreasonable to expect a given folder attribute to remain
constant until changed?

They generally do on my system. Though it is so long since I last used
XP I can't be sure there are not circumstances like a folder full of
JPEGs where it will helpfully give you thumbnails by default.

Somewhere there is a setting so that new subdirectories inherit the
properties of their parent and that is usually good enough.

My previous machine was Windows 8 and before that Windows Vista. In one of those two I was able to set a default for all folders through the folders settings. I don't recall the details other than I set a folder the way I liked it and then set a control to make those settings the default for all folders. I think a few did not pick up the default such as "pictures" (or was it "my pictures") and a couple others like that. It worked well enough.

Under Windows 10 I have not found a control to say "this folder settings should be the default", so I just mess with each folder as I encounter it and try not to be quite as anal about things like column widths. Let them be flexible and adjust according to the need of the moment. After all, the first column is the file name and they vary a great deal. In other words, give in and let Windows wash over you like an ocean wave.

Life is too short to spend time fighting your computer.

Yea, but..
Once upon a time, (not so long) a time ago, i HAD all of my folders
the same: Details, zero Type column width..various window sizes as need.
Then it all changed a bit here, a bit there, ranDUMBly.
And it is shit now.

Again, is it unreasonable to expect a given folder attribute to
REMAIN constant (until manual change)?

 

[Robert Baer]

Rick C wrote:

On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:55:47 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 20/10/2019 06:59, Robert Baer wrote:
    Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.

    So, why do i have to (ranDUMBly) fiddle with a previously set folder?
    Most of the time, the type column is fairly wide; sometimes the
whole folder is in the thumbnails or tiles mode.

    Is it unreasonable to expect a given folder attribute to remain
constant until changed?

They generally do on my system. Though it is so long since I last used
XP I can't be sure there are not circumstances like a folder full of
JPEGs where it will helpfully give you thumbnails by default.

Somewhere there is a setting so that new subdirectories inherit the
properties of their parent and that is usually good enough.

Right click on the top level folder and select 'Properties', then select 'Customize'.

There is a check box 'Also apply this template to all subdirectories'. Make sure it is checked.

This doesn't seem to work for column widths.

Does not work at all; only a few subdirectories change (and others
change another way...). It is all a lie.

 

[Robert Baer]

Michael Terrell wrote:

On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 5:44:05 PM UTC-4, Robert Baer wrote:
Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:55:47 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 20/10/2019 06:59, Robert Baer wrote:
    Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.

    So, why do i have to (ranDUMBly) fiddle with a previously set folder?
    Most of the time, the type column is fairly wide; sometimes the
whole folder is in the thumbnails or tiles mode.

    Is it unreasonable to expect a given folder attribute to remain
constant until changed?

They generally do on my system. Though it is so long since I last used
XP I can't be sure there are not circumstances like a folder full of
JPEGs where it will helpfully give you thumbnails by default.

Somewhere there is a setting so that new subdirectories inherit the
properties of their parent and that is usually good enough.

Right click on the top level folder and select 'Properties', then select 'Customize'.

There is a check box 'Also apply this template to all subdirectories'. Make sure it is checked.

Boy, THAT was an excellent way to totally fuck up all of the folders!
They reverted from the classic view to the crappy left third being
blue and having BS, PLUS undesired tiles mode AND if one manually
switches a folder back to details, the filetype column also reverted to
wide.

The so-called template business did not work, except maybe one subfolder.
Then there was this phony pop-up window "Folder tasks must be enabled
to see your changes. Would you like to turn it on?"
I say phony because the very subfolder i had to fix came up with the
SAME stupidity.
I guess "on" is not "on", ever.
AND...that goddamn left-side blue BS IS BACK!

Therefore, DO NOT USE THIS "SET SUBFOLDER" crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


It always worked for me, but nothing ever works for you.

Possible comments:
1) THEY are all out to get me!
2) THEY are all out to get me!

[[above,being PAIR-annoyed with BS]]

 

[Robert Baer]

John Robertson wrote:

On 2019/10/19 10:59 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
     Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.


How did you get to attach an image to a text only Usenet group? Is it
that a small enough GIF will work?

I don't recall seeing any other attachments working... wait - you sent
another GIF back in 2017 as well. Must be size related.

Interesting!

John :-#)#

Have no idea if size related or not; I try to keep them small and not
use them unless such use is very convenient.

This _is_ a Usenet group, not eXplicitly text only...
..a naked diagram once in a while..
[[wait for it to show]]

 

[Tim Williams]

"Martin Brown" <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qojs4p$und$1@gioia.aioe.org...

Don't you think it is just a little bit dangerous handing a combined
chainsaw and loaded shotgun contraption to a toddler?

If he can't handle the simplest user interface what chance does he have
hacking around in the registry with a flint axe?

It's XP. It's about as consequential as popping a balloon.

Besides, we _all_ keep regular (daily, weekly) backups of our main systems,
right?

....Right?

(Incidentally, if you do royally fuck up the registry, that's exactly what
System Restore is there for. It's never really gone, it's always making
backups. Unless said toddler knows the administrator options to disable
those backups, I suppose; if that's even possible to disable, I'm not sure?)

Tim

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Electrical Engineering Consultation and Design
Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

 

[Robert Baer]

Tim Williams wrote:

"Martin Brown" <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qojs4p$und$1@gioia.aioe.org...

Don't you think it is just a little bit dangerous handing a combined
chainsaw and loaded shotgun contraption to a toddler?

If he can't handle the simplest user interface what chance does he have
hacking around in the registry with a flint axe?


It's XP.  It's about as consequential as popping a balloon.

Besides, we _all_ keep regular (daily, weekly) backups of our main
systems, right?

...Right?

(Incidentally, if you do royally fuck up the registry, that's exactly
what System Restore is there for.  It's never really gone, it's always
making backups.  Unless said toddler knows the administrator options to
disable those backups, I suppose; if that's even possible to disable,
I'm not sure?)

Tim

That supposed "backup" system NEVER EVER has worked in any OS i ever
installed..Win95, Win98SE, Win2K, WinXP, Win7, OS/2.
Are you saying there is a way to ENABLE it? And tell it how often to
do its thing?

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/10/21 1:00 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:

John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/10/19 10:59 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
     Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.


How did you get to attach an image to a text only Usenet group? Is it
that a small enough GIF will work?

I don't recall seeing any other attachments working... wait - you sent
another GIF back in 2017 as well. Must be size related.

Interesting!

John :-#)#

 Have no idea if size related or not; I try to keep them small and not
use them unless such use is very convenient.

 This _is_ a Usenet group, not eXplicitly text only...
 ..a naked diagram once in a while..
  [[wait for it to show]]

Interesting, all these years I've simply assumed (or was told early on)
that attachments wouldn't work on non-binary groups. Sigh.

Well, I, at least, know what assumptions are! (sound of head banging
against the wall)

Thanks,

John :-#)#

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[Martin Brown]

On 22/10/2019 07:36, John Robertson wrote:

On 2019/10/21 1:00 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/10/19 10:59 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
     Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.


How did you get to attach an image to a text only Usenet group? Is it
that a small enough GIF will work?

I don't recall seeing any other attachments working... wait - you
sent another GIF back in 2017 as well. Must be size related.

Interesting!

John :-#)#

  Have no idea if size related or not; I try to keep them small and
not use them unless such use is very convenient.

  This _is_ a Usenet group, not eXplicitly text only...
  ..a naked diagram once in a while..
   [[wait for it to show]]

It must be size related. There is also a curiosity that in this message
the GIF shows up as an attachment that TB can't display (animated GIF)
whereas the earlier ones were surprisingly rendered inline.

Interesting, all these years I've simply assumed (or was told early on)
that attachments wouldn't work on non-binary groups. Sigh.

Well, I, at least, know what assumptions are! (sound of head banging
against the wall)

Thanks,

John :-#)#

Quite a lot of newsservers strip attachments in text only groups or at
least they used to. Evidently this got through unmolested.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Martin Brown]

On 22/10/2019 04:47, Robert Baer wrote:

Tim Williams wrote:
"Martin Brown" <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qojs4p$und$1@gioia.aioe.org...

Don't you think it is just a little bit dangerous handing a combined
chainsaw and loaded shotgun contraption to a toddler?

If he can't handle the simplest user interface what chance does he have
hacking around in the registry with a flint axe?


It's XP.  It's about as consequential as popping a balloon.

Besides, we _all_ keep regular (daily, weekly) backups of our main
systems, right?

...Right?

(Incidentally, if you do royally fuck up the registry, that's exactly
what System Restore is there for.  It's never really gone, it's always
making backups.  Unless said toddler knows the administrator options
to disable those backups, I suppose; if that's even possible to
disable, I'm not sure?)

Tim

  That supposed "backup" system NEVER EVER has worked in any OS i ever
installed..Win95, Win98SE, Win2K, WinXP, Win7, OS/2.
  Are you saying there is a way to ENABLE it? And tell it how often to
do its thing?

Mickeysoft "backup" sucks. I wouldn't trust it to work either direction.

You buy a third party back up software package although there are a few
free ones these days that are not too bad. Even online ones if you don't
mind having your stuff sat in the cloud. I quite like Paragon for its
simplicity and full or incremental backups. It helps that you can get
256GB USB sticks these days (or insane sized spinning rust). Other
brands are available.

I recall finding a bug in the Novell OS/2 backup when our saveset went
above 2GB and we had a hard disk failure. We only got the first 2GB back
because their code had used a signed integer somewhere. It was very
annoying because we had regular tests but when the chips were down the
damn thing failed (only by a few MB lost code but that really hurt).

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in
news:NQRqF.181784$GS.99939@fx37.iad:

      Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.

      So, why do i have to (ranDUMBly) fiddle with a previously set
      folder? Most of the time, the type column is fairly wide;
      sometimes the
whole folder is in the thumbnails or tiles mode.

      Is it unreasonable to expect a given folder attribute to
      remain
constant until changed?

      Is there a way to set/reset all folders to a given attribute
      (NOTE:
"folder options / view" has only "reset all folders" available).
      And to be picky, nothing states what that "reset" mode is
      (nor how
to change THAT).

      As long as am nitting picks, the "You can apply the view
      (such as
Details or Tiles) that you are using for this folder to all
folders." does not exactly cut it as an example.
     The Folder Options folder does not even pretend to look like a
"normal" folder; NO Details or Tiles.
      So, even IF the "Apply to All Folders" were available, the
      result
would be ambiguous at best.

      Your pit nicker, R.Baer

I first set a folder to the way I want most of them to appear, and
then tell it to set them all the saem as that one.
* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^---HOW?


   THEN, you go through and set up individual changes such as those
you describe, and it should retain them all.
*                      ^^^^^^--- That is where the ranDUMB BS comes in.
  For the last month roughly, a random folder will "revert" to tiles or
thumnails mode.

  Thanks.



   The exception is adding files which have things like album names
and track names, instead of basic text or data files.  Those extra
attributes may trigger a different view.  Only guessing tho.

I see a lot of details,but nothing that states WHAT (and how)
controls the so-called [preferred for me] Defaults ("Restore Defaults")
or what "Reset all Folders" uses for the so-called reset and
importantly, what enforces the "all" - as only some folders are touched.

Due to the inconsistency i prefer "Restore Defaults" most especially
if i can SET those so-called Defaults.

Thanks.

 

[Robert Baer]

Martin Brown wrote:

On 22/10/2019 07:36, John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/10/21 1:00 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
John Robertson wrote:
On 2019/10/19 10:59 p.m., Robert Baer wrote:
     Initially, I always have to set each folder the way i want:
details,  and type column zero.


How did you get to attach an image to a text only Usenet group? Is
it that a small enough GIF will work?

I don't recall seeing any other attachments working... wait - you
sent another GIF back in 2017 as well. Must be size related.

Interesting!

John :-#)#

  Have no idea if size related or not; I try to keep them small and
not use them unless such use is very convenient.

  This _is_ a Usenet group, not eXplicitly text only...
  ..a naked diagram once in a while..
   [[wait for it to show]]

It must be size related. There is also a curiosity that in this message
the GIF shows up as an attachment that TB can't display (animated GIF)
whereas the earlier ones were surprisingly rendered inline.

* More likely related to the NG server; the worm popped up in about
20seconds (the cube net).
I have seen it as a "frozen" gif and that looks empty.

Interesting, all these years I've simply assumed (or was told early
on) that attachments wouldn't work on non-binary groups. Sigh.

Well, I, at least, know what assumptions are! (sound of head banging
against the wall)

Thanks,

John :-#)#

Quite a lot of newsservers strip attachments in text only groups or at
least they used to. Evidently this got through unmolested.

 

Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:qomedf$g0e$1@gioia.aioe.org:

Quite a lot of newsservers strip attachments in text only groups
or at least they used to. Evidently this got through unmolested.

Actually, it was news servers doing it. A good news client strips
nothing. What good would not being able to see every bit that was
posted do? I want to make those choices.

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:
>>>
I first set a folder to the way I want most of them to appear, and
then tell it to set them all the same as that one.
* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^---HOW?