OT computer USB Beep at connect.discounect

[Rick C]

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:12:40 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 8/15/2019 5:59 PM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote in news:qj4cgm$29o$1@dont-email.me:

On 8/15/2019 12:50 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 15/08/2019 17:34, amdx wrote:
Every once in a while I need to disconnect my keyboard, one
letter keeps going and going and I can't stop it unless I unplug
the
keyboard.tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
ttttttttttttttttttttttttt

Not necessarily T, can be any letter.

  Recently the badump sound that occurs at USB disconnect has
disappeared and the badump' at reconnect is gone.
  Any idea why this would happen.
  Windows 7.
8 yr old gigabyte mother board

                           Mikek

I know this sounds crazy but have you tried plugging it into
another USB socket. I have known sockets lose their ability to
accept certain devices reliably although usually for me it is all
of nothing. One particular USB socket on my previous machine
refuses point blank to work with one particular mouse. I am
fairly sure there is a registry entry corrupted for it somewhere
but unless and until I run out of other places to plug it in I
will continue to use it in another socket.

Other thing to do is try a live boot Linux CD and if the keyboard
also misbehaves there then you know it is a true hardware fault.


This is not a problem except when I have to crawl under the
computer
desk, lay on my back fumble around following the cable down to
behind the computer unplug the correct usb sight unseen. It is
just comforting to hear badump when you plug it in.
Mikek


It is not 'baddump'. It is simply an event indicator. Not
decidedly bad or good.

I didn't write baddump, I wrote badump, but it's more like ba-dump
One is rise ondump and the other is goes low on dump, but it's been so
long, I don't remember which is which.

Plugging in and working is the up (happy) sound. Unplugging is the downward (less happy) sound. Plugging in an not working is an error sound.

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[Rick C]

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 8:34:51 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 8/15/2019 5:05 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
Rick C wrote...

Time for a new keyboard? ...

Time for a new computer. OK, Mikek,
now you have my blessing, go for it!


My computer guru is not ready yet.
He picked parts for a 4 computers (all the same) right at 8 years ago.
We all put them together and they are all still working.
I'm waiting for him to do it again.
The keyboard thing is rare, just a pain to climb under the desk and
unplug dis/re connect.
The printer is just old, and drivers for Win 7 were not made, someone
found work around drivers.
Other than that it works fine, surfs just fine, does everything I need,
Why do I need a new one, so it would be faster, it's fast enough. I have
a friend, his life is either overclocking or reinstalling a new modified
version of Windows, over and over and over again.
"I don't want to fix my computer I want to use my computer"

Besides the markets down, I want it to rebound before I remove $600 or
$800.

Ya'all need to buy while the price is low, invest people, invest.
That brings up my neighbor, pulled his money out on 9/11. never got
back in. In cash all those years. If he considered the fees on his
account and inflation he's probably down 45% in purchasing power.

I've got a quite elegant solution that is slightly too large for this margin. lol

Get a USB extension cord so the unplug is closer to you.

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 15 Aug 2019 19:34:36 -0500) it happened amdx
<nojunk@knology.net> wrote in <qj4tn2$lk3$1@dont-email.me>:

On 8/15/2019 5:05 PM, Winfield Hill wrote:
Rick C wrote...

Time for a new keyboard? ...

Time for a new computer. OK, Mikek,
now you have my blessing, go for it!


My computer guru is not ready yet.
He picked parts for a 4 computers (all the same) right at 8 years ago.
We all put them together and they are all still working.
I'm waiting for him to do it again.
The keyboard thing is rare, just a pain to climb under the desk and
unplug dis/re connect.
The printer is just old, and drivers for Win 7 were not made, someone
found work around drivers.
Other than that it works fine, surfs just fine, does everything I need,
Why do I need a new one, so it would be faster, it's fast enough. I have
a friend, his life is either overclocking or reinstalling a new modified
version of Windows, over and over and over again.
"I don't want to fix my computer I want to use my computer"

Besides the markets down, I want it to rebound before I remove $600 or
$800.

Ya'all need to buy while the price is low, invest people, invest.
That brings up my neighbor, pulled his money out on 9/11. never got
back in. In cash all those years. If he considered the fees on his
account and inflation he's probably down 45% in purchasing power.

Mikek

I bought gold when it was low,
the guy could not deliver as the price went up,
I called my law insurance and they did something to the guy
I now have the gold, and it went up again.
All that with almost zero interest rates... stock prices falling.

Would donald trump devaluate the US dollar?
Like China did the yuan?

When I assembled my computahs I put a Linux OS on it
I do not update OSes.

But I do have one laptop with a partition with the latest and greatest Linux
version so it can run recent browsers as those are moving targets..

The latest PC is from 2013 now on 6 years 24/7.

Yesterday I used my eeePC from 11 years ago to read some thermocouples.

I guess one of these days the electrolytic caps in my PC mobo here will fail,
that is usually the first thing, had to replace power supply in an other old PC.

Backup PC > 15 years old, very expensive mobo, still same Linux OS,


It takes up to about 2 weeks to install all my software on a new PC.
Compile from source, scripts.

Not waiting for that ..

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

 

[Rick C]

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can see what is on your screen. They need to be within about 500 feet though. See any plain white vans outside?

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[Robert Baer]

Rick C wrote:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can see what is on your screen. They need to be within about 500 feet though. See any plain white vans outside?

Not only that, but "they" can also see where your horse stepped into
your manure.

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 11:34:53 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

Every once in a while I need to disconnect my keyboard, one letter keeps
going and going and I can't stop it unless I unplug the
keyboard.ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
Not necessarily T, can be any letter.

Find a new or known working keyboard. Try it in place of your
malfunctional keyboard. If that fixes the stuck key problem, recycle
your old keyboard and live happily ever after. If that does not fix
the problem, hire an exorcist to purge the computah from evil spirits.
If the keyboard has experienced some water incursion, try baking it in
an oven (not a microwave oven) at low temperatures to help evaporate
any residual water. If it's always the same key, try blowing
compressed air under the key caps to dislodge any debris that might be
causing the mechanism to stick.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[John Robertson]

On 2019/08/15 2:25 p.m., amdx wrote:

On 8/15/2019 4:04 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 3:41:14 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 8/15/2019 12:50 PM, Martin Brown wrote:
On 15/08/2019 17:34, amdx wrote:
Every once in a while I need to disconnect my keyboard, one letter
keeps going and going and I can't stop it unless I unplug the
keyboard.ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt


Not necessarily T, can be any letter.

   Recently the badump sound that occurs at USB disconnect has
disappeared and the badump' at reconnect is gone.
   Any idea why this would happen.
   Windows 7.
8 yr old gigabyte mother board

                            Mikek

I know this sounds crazy but have you tried plugging it into another
USB
socket. I have known sockets lose their ability to accept certain
devices reliably although usually for me it is all of nothing. One
particular USB socket on my previous machine refuses point blank to
work
with one particular mouse. I am fairly sure there is a registry entry
corrupted for it somewhere but unless and until I run out of other
places to plug it in I will continue to use it in another socket.

Other thing to do is try a live boot Linux CD and if the keyboard also
misbehaves there then you know it is a true hardware fault.


   This is not a problem except when I have to crawl under the computer
desk, lay on my back fumble around following the cable down to behind
the computer unplug the correct usb sight unseen. It is just comforting
to hear badump when you plug it in.
                               Mikek

Time for a new keyboard?
 I don't think it is the keyboard causing the problem.

Why not? It is the easiest test. And if you use a keyboard eventually it
will fail, and sometimes in interesting ways.

Borrow a keyboard with a friend...at least remove the simplest suspect
that is someone may have spilled some lquid on the keyboard and not
mentioned it to you or not even noticed it...

John :-#)#

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 2:06:59 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:41:19 -0800) it happened Robert Baer
robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in <gJK5F.20$uU.18@fx16.iad>:

Rick C wrote:
On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can see what is on your screen.

Wrong, that was true in the case of CRT monitors,
both with a PMT and also from the RF from the CRT drive
nice papers about that in those years in sci.crypt.
With LCD screens that would be Ferry Art.

Can look up their paper if you need, must be on some PC here.

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=eavesdrop+on+LCD+displays

Sometimes you are just too unaware of your own limitations.

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:41:19 -0800) it happened Robert Baer
<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in <gJK5F.20$uU.18@fx16.iad>:

Rick C wrote:
On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can see what is on your screen.

Wrong, that was true in the case of CRT monitors,
both with a PMT and also from the RF from the CRT drive
nice papers about that in those years in sci.crypt.
With LCD screens that would be Ferry Art.

Can look up their paper if you need, must be on some PC here.

They need to be within about 500
feet though. See any plain white vans outside?

No, they use helicopters here,
hang above your head and scan with ultrasound, also IR to see if you have big lamps so are growing plants,

Not only that, but "they" can also see where your horse stepped into
your manure.

Plenty of horses here still, they do leave markers too at times.


But I know world is reversed at you side of the planet,

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:03:31 -0700) it happened Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in <372fle5s68k1ml3j28e4t0p0ud0lqc5k2o@4ax.com>:

Find a new or known working keyboard. Try it in place of your
malfunctional keyboard. If that fixes the stuck key problem, recycle
your old keyboard and live happily ever after. If that does not fix
the problem, hire an exorcist to purge the computah from evil spirits.
If the keyboard has experienced some water incursion, try baking it in
an oven (not a microwave oven) at low temperatures to help evaporate
any residual water. If it's always the same key, try blowing
compressed air under the key caps to dislodge any debris that might be
causing the mechanism to stick.

I have taken my keyboard apart and greased each key (after cleaning all keys) with this:
Super Lube Synthetic Grease With PTFE For Crown Gears Guide Posts Plastic Safe

That also made the keyboard more silent.
Stuck keys? No.
Getting a bit wear after using this keyboard for so many years.

Not every keyboard is the same,
new logitech keyboard: lettering came off after a week.
This is a very old one, super nice.

exorcism no, you have t be a believer for that, i am not
Banging your head on the keys is not recommended either,

Anybody tried voice to text?
I had part of Winfields text read by my a text to voice system (on e-reader)
some wimin voice, was OK until it got to the math, there I lost it
stroke dash dot comma .. .blah blah.

If anybody wants an audio track of that I can put it on the site

 

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
news:qj8l59$1bsg$1@gioia.aioe.org:

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:94803fa8-9c68-4091-b34e-ed2d032b7dc7@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can
see what is on your screen.

That is very old (CRT days) and no longer true. Display data
can
not be picked up any more, and keyboards are no longer 5 V TTL
device pinging out magnetic signatures.

They need to be within about 500 feet
though. See any plain white vans outside?

I doubt they can do it outside 5 foot distance from any device
and
would not be able to sniff much off that.

We no longer have two computer case and shield specs either like
we
used to, because motherboards are not screaming out bit stream mag
fields like they used to either. See all those cases with acrylic
windows in them?

You would even have trouble getting proper key sequences from a
bluetooth connected keyboard, because those links are encrypted.

This was called "Tempest" by the military/intelligence boys back
when they were worried about it.

We had an early LCD display and we had a conductive 1/8" coated
"Tempest" shield glass that we mounted over the face. It was meant
for CRT displays though, and despite our use of it on the LCD, there
was no emission from the face of that LCD panel that folks nearby
could "read" and discern with it on or off. They were $450 each back
in '88.

 

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:94803fa8-9c68-4091-b34e-ed2d032b7dc7@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can
see what is on your screen.

That is very old (CRT days) and no longer true. Display data can
not be picked up any more, and keyboards are no longer 5 V TTL device
pinging out magnetic signatures.

They need to be within about 500 feet
though. See any plain white vans outside?

I doubt they can do it outside 5 foot distance from any device and
would not be able to sniff much off that.

We no longer have two computer case and shield specs either like we
used to, because motherboards are not screaming out bit stream mag
fields like they used to either. See all those cases with acrylic
windows in them?

You would even have trouble getting proper key sequences from a
bluetooth connected keyboard, because those links are encrypted.

 

[Joseph Gwinn]

On Aug 17, 2019, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote
(in article <qj8ldg$1d0c$1@gioia.aioe.org&gt:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
news:qj8l59$1bsg$1@gioia.aioe.org:

Rick C<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:94803fa8-9c68-4091-b34e-ed2d032b7dc7@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they can
see what is on your screen.

That is very old (CRT days) and no longer true. Display data
can
not be picked up any more, and keyboards are no longer 5 V TTL
device pinging out magnetic signatures.

They need to be within about 500 feet
though. See any plain white vans outside?

I doubt they can do it outside 5 foot distance from any device
and
would not be able to sniff much off that.

We no longer have two computer case and shield specs either like
we
used to, because motherboards are not screaming out bit stream mag
fields like they used to either. See all those cases with acrylic
windows in them?

You would even have trouble getting proper key sequences from a
bluetooth connected keyboard, because those links are encrypted.

This was called "Tempest" by the military/intelligence boys back
when they were worried about it.

We had an early LCD display and we had a conductive 1/8" coated
"Tempest" shield glass that we mounted over the face. It was meant
for CRT displays though, and despite our use of it on the LCD, there
was no emission from the face of that LCD panel that folks nearby
could "read" and discern with it on or off. They were $450 each back
in '88.

TEMPEST is still around:

..<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)>

Joe Gwinn

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:23:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:03:31 -0700) it happened Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in <372fle5s68k1ml3j28e4t0p0ud0lqc5k2o@4ax.com>:

Find a new or known working keyboard. Try it in place of your
malfunctional keyboard. If that fixes the stuck key problem, recycle
your old keyboard and live happily ever after. If that does not fix
the problem, hire an exorcist to purge the computah from evil spirits.
If the keyboard has experienced some water incursion, try baking it in
an oven (not a microwave oven) at low temperatures to help evaporate
any residual water. If it's always the same key, try blowing
compressed air under the key caps to dislodge any debris that might be
causing the mechanism to stick.

I have taken my keyboard apart and greased each key (after cleaning all keys) with this:
Super Lube Synthetic Grease With PTFE For Crown Gears Guide Posts Plastic Safe

I often clean customers keyboards. A paper clip with a right angle
bend on the top to extract the hair or fur balls from under the keys.
Compressed air (from a real air compressor, not a can of compressed
air) to blow out the debris. Sometimes, I have temporarily remove the
corner key caps to extract all the debris. In such an environment,
greasing the key mechanism will glue the dirt, dust, hair, fur, crud,
etc in place. Unless you use a keyboard cover, I don't think any
grease or lube will work. Also, with the crud and grease mix stuck
between the moving parts of the keys, it will be difficult to extract
later without a complete disassembly followed by a soap and solvent
bath.

That also made the keyboard more silent.
Stuck keys? No.

Not yet. Give it time and a little dirt, dust, etc...

>Getting a bit wear after using this keyboard for so many years.

There are groups dedicated to the preservation of ancient IBM
keyboards, which are allegedly the best and longest lasting.
<https://clickykeyboards.com>
Notice the rather high prices for these antiques. I really regret
having sent a car trunk load of nothing but old keyboards to the
recyclers.

Not every keyboard is the same,
new logitech keyboard: lettering came off after a week.

I have the same problem. When working with solvents and forgetting to
use gloves, the solvent is absorbed into my finger tips. If I type
anything, even after washing my hands, the solvent attacks the
miserable quality ink used for printing the key lettering.

Also, I've noticed that some keyboards have both disappearing
lettering and polished key caps. That suggests some kind of abrasive
action. Watching people type, I've noticed that some people push down
on the key at an angle, which causes the finger tip to slide across
the key cap. I play piano, which taught me to bend the fingers when
playing, so I don't have this problem. However, someone who's fingers
slide across the key caps is going to rapidly remove the lettering and
polish the key caps.

I also have another problem with Logitech. They insist on using some
form of rubber based paint for coating their products. Allegedly, the
rubber gives the mouse or keyboard a better grip or "feel". What it
really does is decompose in about 5 years into a sticky mess, thus
inspiring the customer to purchase a new replacement. I try to avoid
any products with a painted rubber surface finish.

>This is a very old one, super nice.

Probably has double injection molded key cap lettering, which never
wears out.

>exorcism no, you have t be a believer for that, i am not

It is not necessary to believe in the technology in order to use it. I
participate in many daily activities (voting, banking, fast food,
traffic regulations, cloud storage, etc) in which I have very little
understanding, confidence, or belief. I have seen a sufficient number
of miraculous repairs, that I have added exorcism to my collection of
tools. Admittedly, I do reserve exorcism for persistent problems,
uncooperative devices, and weird problems. Still, it might worth
trying at the next opportunity. You can work on the believing part
later.

>Banging your head on the keys is not recommended either,

True. It's easier to bang the keys on your head, than your head on
the keys.

Anybody tried voice to text?
I had part of Winfields text read by my a text to voice system (on e-reader)
some wimin voice, was OK until it got to the math, there I lost it
stroke dash dot comma .. .blah blah.

Most Smartphones have a speech to text feature. It's useful for
producing perfect spelling and grammatical butchery in email and text
messages. If you're into word substitution games, speech to text is
for you. Text to speech is quite good at pronouncing most words but
fairly useless for numbers, acronyms, jargon, formulas, Greek
scientific symbols, tabular data, ignoring fine print, regional
accents, foreign names, imitating the senders voice, etc. I'm really
impressed with the progress made since the Apple Newton, but there's
still plenty of room for improvement.
<https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2010/06/6a0120a85dcdae970b013484af3871970c-800wi.png>

>If anybody wants an audio track of that I can put it on the site

No thanks. After performing a miraculous Windoze 10 resurrection
yesterday, partly by petitioning the computer gods for a favorable
outcome, I don't want to risk losing my accumulated karma by
unleashing the audio track on the world.


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:01:22 -0700) it happened Jeff Liebermann
<jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in <mjdgle5bffslt4607v3co5fj48jr9ts2qh@4ax.com>:

On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 06:23:12 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaOnStPeAlMtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 16 Aug 2019 22:03:31 -0700) it happened Jeff Liebermann
jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in <372fle5s68k1ml3j28e4t0p0ud0lqc5k2o@4ax.com>:

Find a new or known working keyboard. Try it in place of your
malfunctional keyboard. If that fixes the stuck key problem, recycle
your old keyboard and live happily ever after. If that does not fix
the problem, hire an exorcist to purge the computah from evil spirits.
If the keyboard has experienced some water incursion, try baking it in
an oven (not a microwave oven) at low temperatures to help evaporate
any residual water. If it's always the same key, try blowing
compressed air under the key caps to dislodge any debris that might be
causing the mechanism to stick.

I have taken my keyboard apart and greased each key (after cleaning all keys) with this:
Super Lube Synthetic Grease With PTFE For Crown Gears Guide Posts Plastic Safe

I often clean customers keyboards. A paper clip with a right angle
bend on the top to extract the hair or fur balls from under the keys.
Compressed air (from a real air compressor, not a can of compressed
air) to blow out the debris. Sometimes, I have temporarily remove the
corner key caps to extract all the debris. In such an environment,
greasing the key mechanism will glue the dirt, dust, hair, fur, crud,
etc in place. Unless you use a keyboard cover, I don't think any
grease or lube will work. Also, with the crud and grease mix stuck
between the moving parts of the keys, it will be difficult to extract
later without a complete disassembly followed by a soap and solvent
bath.

No, I took al the keys out, washed them like you wash dishes in dishwasher water,
cleaned the rest (were the keys go in)
That was leme see:
09/30/2013 Jan Panteltje (40K) Fw: Bevestiging van je bestelling van Super Lube Synthetic Grease With PTFE For Crown Gears Guide Posts Plastic Safe...
(ebay)

So, and until this day nothing is stuck
it was very bad on several keys before that,
I clean the keyboard with vacuum cleaner every week though,
Always food and cookies.

That also made the keyboard more silent.
Stuck keys? No.

Not yet. Give it time and a little dirt, dust, etc...

2013 - 2019 is 6 years, VERY intensively used (typing on it now, programming on it).
Only greased it once.

Getting a bit wear after using this keyboard for so many years.

There are groups dedicated to the preservation of ancient IBM
keyboards, which are allegedly the best and longest lasting.

I got the tip for the grease just from a group like that,
Maybe you will find it if you google for the grease I used.
I still have the tube, and if it EVER gets stuck I will use it again, super stuff.


><https://clickykeyboards.com>

Yes, we used those at work were across the road from IBM sort of an IBM connected company,
the springs in the key system, very nice typing.

Notice the rather high prices for these antiques. I really regret
having sent a car trunk load of nothing but old keyboards to the
recyclers.

In a way it gets like HiFi audio, I am used to these now, and to my cheap speakers.,,,
It gets the work done, not so much focused on typing.
Thousands of lines of code,

I have a several other keyboards, but always come back to this,
I have a water proof one you can fold, and small remote like ones, and a neat Chinese wireless one,

Not every keyboard is the same,
new logitech keyboard: lettering came off after a week.

I have the same problem. When working with solvents and forgetting to
use gloves, the solvent is absorbed into my finger tips. If I type
anything, even after washing my hands, the solvent attacks the
miserable quality ink used for printing the key lettering.

Here a picture of my Logitech keyboard:
http://panteltje.com/pub/nice_logitech_keyboard_IMG_0148.JPG
The damage to the spacebar is mine
I bought this around 2003?
Still on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/c/1423879790

Model Y-SZ49

Also, I've noticed that some keyboards have both disappearing
lettering and polished key caps. That suggests some kind of abrasive
action. Watching people type, I've noticed that some people push down
on the key at an angle, which causes the finger tip to slide across
the key cap. I play piano, which taught me to bend the fingers when
playing, so I don't have this problem. However, someone who's fingers
slide across the key caps is going to rapidly remove the lettering and
polish the key caps.

I also have another problem with Logitech. They insist on using some
form of rubber based paint for coating their products. Allegedly, the
rubber gives the mouse or keyboard a better grip or "feel". What it
really does is decompose in about 5 years into a sticky mess, thus
inspiring the customer to purchase a new replacement. I try to avoid
any products with a painted rubber surface finish.

Yes, I know that stuff, you can remove it with 'terpentine' (turpentine in English?)
many Chinese products (Logitech is made in China too) use that,
when I see it I remove it.

This is a very old one, super nice.

Probably has double injection molded key cap lettering, which never
wears out.

exorcism no, you have t be a believer for that, i am not

It is not necessary to believe in the technology in order to use it. I
participate in many daily activities (voting, banking, fast food,
traffic regulations, cloud storage, etc) in which I have very little
understanding, confidence, or belief. I have seen a sufficient number
of miraculous repairs, that I have added exorcism to my collection of
tools. Admittedly, I do reserve exorcism for persistent problems,
uncooperative devices, and weird problems. Still, it might worth
trying at the next opportunity. You can work on the believing part
later.

Once I was at the home of a friend,
She had bought a very old TV, it just did not give a picture.

I measured something and concluded the CRT had some internal problem.
(all voltages on it were normal).
Put my hand on the set and spoke the words 'Only a miracle can fix this tube..'
There was a big flash and there was the picture,
What can you say about that?

Banging your head on the keys is not recommended either,

True. It's easier to bang the keys on your head, than your head on
the keys.

Anybody tried voice to text?
I had part of Winfields text read by my a text to voice system (on e-reader)
some wimin voice, was OK until it got to the math, there I lost it
stroke dash dot comma .. .blah blah.

Most Smartphones have a speech to text feature. It's useful for
producing perfect spelling and grammatical butchery in email and text
messages. If you're into word substitution games, speech to text is
for you. Text to speech is quite good at pronouncing most words but
fairly useless for numbers, acronyms, jargon, formulas, Greek
scientific symbols, tabular data, ignoring fine print, regional
accents, foreign names, imitating the senders voice, etc. I'm really
impressed with the progress made since the Apple Newton, but there's
still plenty of room for improvement.
https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/uploads/2010/06/6a0120a85dcdae970b013484af3871970c-800wi.png

yea,..

If anybody wants an audio track of that I can put it on the site

No thanks. After performing a miraculous Windoze 10 resurrection
yesterday, partly by petitioning the computer gods for a favorable
outcome, I don't want to risk losing my accumulated karma by
unleashing the audio track on the world.

Wise decision

 

Joseph Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote in
news:0001HW.23086FFB02FA676670000D4552EF@news.giganews.com:

On Aug 17, 2019, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote
(in article <qj8ldg$1d0c$1@gioia.aioe.org&gt:

DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote in
news:qj8l59$1bsg$1@gioia.aioe.org:

Rick C<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:94803fa8-9c68-4091-b34e-ed2d032b7dc7@googlegroups.com:

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 3:22:06 AM UTC-4, Jan Panteltje
wrote:

Keyboard is wired, no listening in to what I type.
Added X extra USB ports, well
http://panteltje.com/pub/wired_IXIMG_0146.JPG

Anyone who wants to can not only pick up what you type, they
can
see what is on your screen.

That is very old (CRT days) and no longer true. Display data
can
not be picked up any more, and keyboards are no longer 5 V TTL
device pinging out magnetic signatures.

They need to be within about 500 feet
though. See any plain white vans outside?

I doubt they can do it outside 5 foot distance from any device
and
would not be able to sniff much off that.

We no longer have two computer case and shield specs either like
we
used to, because motherboards are not screaming out bit stream
mag
fields like they used to either. See all those cases with
acrylic
windows in them?

You would even have trouble getting proper key sequences from a
bluetooth connected keyboard, because those links are encrypted.

This was called "Tempest" by the military/intelligence boys back
when they were worried about it.

We had an early LCD display and we had a conductive 1/8" coated
"Tempest" shield glass that we mounted over the face. It was meant
for CRT displays though, and despite our use of it on the LCD,
there
was no emission from the face of that LCD panel that folks nearby
could "read" and discern with it on or off. They were $450 each
back
in '88.

TEMPEST is still around:

.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)

Joe Gwinn

The point, Joe, is that device emissions are not... as much.

Back when it was introduced sure. But nowadays, one would have to
be sniffing within inches of a device.

So yeah, sure... it is still around and is still a problem, just
now worried a lot more about catching the sniffers than shielding
from them at the level they did when CRT's were spewing screen data.
But they are indeed still concerned. Too much methinks...

I made an inline, SATA attached encrypted hard drive enclosure with
keypad crypto access and officer's "Crypto Ignition Key" port, and
the enclosure lid was fully EMI sealed as were all of the external
connection ports. So the case had little 'cells', kind of like the
old radio hobbed out chassis with little tank circuit boxes milled
out in them.
It had those little glass beaded 'capacitors' that feed a wire
through a shield wall for the power connection.
It was HAIPE certified and sealed. (FIPS std).

<https://www.viasat.com/products/encryption-kg-200r>