OT Auckland drivers can not drive for nuts

[Eric Richards]

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up. Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"


But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up. Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"


But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,


Auckland driving still hasn't ceased to amaze me, and I've been here for

just over six years.
Your average Auckland driver is a clueless drongo, quite frankly.
Roundabouts are clearly waaaaay
too complex to figure out, particularly for what indicator to use and when.

A lot of the problem is sporadic and half-assed law enforcement. Watching
"Motorway Patrol" just tells you what's wrong.

Cheers.

Ken

 

[Bully]

Sounds a lot like Adelaide drivers.......courtesy and knowledge of the road
rules are non-existant!

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up. Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"


But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Bully" <bully5558@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f978e4$1_3@news.adelaide.pipenetworks.com...

Sounds a lot like Adelaide drivers.......courtesy and knowledge of the
road
rules are non-existant!

At least in Melbourne, the drivers are ignorant but they know the rules.


Ken

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...
Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road
accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed,
one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side
street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up. Try doing that in
Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of
gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a
car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"


But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other
cities,

 

[Richard Freeman]

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up.

What ! In Sydney ????????? What part of Sydney was this ???? what were you
smoking at the Time ???
I have been Driving in Sydney for a number of years now and cannot recall
this kind of Behaviour from any but the odd driver typical scenario two
lanes merging - first drivers in the Right lane notice that the traffic in
the right lane has slowed down so they change to the 10m of left lane and
help slow down the right lane by trying to barge in to the right lane again.
In fact I recall one weekend driving up to Katoomba and observing that where
the Highway was Single lane the Traffic flowed well but where ever the
Highway changed to two lanes the Traffic banked up and Ground to a halt.
And of course try driving North on the F3 any weekend and count the number
of crazed Psychopathic Gayboys Tailgating less than 2 meters off your rear
end at 110+Km/h (any lane - they tailgate in the left, middle or the right
Lane makes no difference).
In fact just last week I had a Gayboy tailgating and flashing his lights
because I had the temerity to slow down to 55km/h in a 50 zone

Of course Traffic reports in Sydney are largely a load of cobblers and any
areas reported as congested usually give you a clear run as all the gullible
folk avoid them- at best Traffic reports are 2 hours behind reality and at
worst they are completely wrong. I remember driving north on southern cross
Drive one afternoon listening to Traffic reports of a Fatal accident and
major Traffic congestion on Southern cross drive Thinking that there was
definitely no crash on Southern cross drive and in fact there was unusually
little Traffic for that time of the day I looked over to Anzac parade and
realised that judging by the emergency vehicles and serious congestion the
Crash was on Anzac parade - and to make things worse a lot of drivers were
using Anzac parade to avoid the 'accident on Southern cross drive'.
Well of course I rang the Radio station I was listening to, to let them know
however an hour or two later they were still reporting the crash as being on
Southern cross Drive.

Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

Try driving in Sydney even at over the speed limit and you will soon have
some Gayboy sniffing your exhaust pipe

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"

The fact you made a 'panic stop' without some Gayboy giving you a liberace
......

But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,

probably comparable per head of driving population .....

 

[Mark jb]

And of course try driving North on the F3 any weekend and count the number
of crazed Psychopathic Gayboys Tailgating less than 2 meters off your
rear
end at 110+Km/h (any lane - they tailgate in the left, middle or the right
Lane makes no difference).
In fact just last week I had a Gayboy tailgating and flashing his lights
because I had the temerity to slow down to 55km/h in a 50 zone

You got feet? Your brake lights work? Use 'em. Ride the brakes for 2km, and
then ever so slowly ease off the accelerator until you're doing
substantially under the limit without them realising. Then speed back up to
the limit. They usually play catchup then drop back because they now think
they're speeding... Works well on the M4 for me.

Of course, you may want to take the route of instant gratification... pike
with no warning and watch the clouds of smoke behind you.

-mark

 

[dmm]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:28:20 +1200, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Bully" <bully5558@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f978e4$1_3@news.adelaide.pipenetworks.com...
Sounds a lot like Adelaide drivers.......courtesy and knowledge of the
road
rules are non-existant!


At least in Melbourne, the drivers are ignorant but they know the rules.


Ken

I've observed that some Melbourne drivers think that the indicator is an optional extra.

 

[dmm]

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:48:03 +1000, "Mark jb" <jbauer at internode dot on dot net> wrote:

Of course, you may want to take the route of instant gratification... pike
with no warning and watch the clouds of smoke behind you.

-mark

Pike??

 

[Mark jb]

Pike??

y'know, jump on the brakes hard enough to dip the nose substantially...
usually as hard as you can without locking or activating abs.

-mark

 

[Ken Taylor]

"dmm" <dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:56ejf19bids99grkm550l3g28jdtrldbch@4ax.com...

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:28:20 +1200, "Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

"Bully" <bully5558@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42f978e4$1_3@news.adelaide.pipenetworks.com...
Sounds a lot like Adelaide drivers.......courtesy and knowledge of the
road
rules are non-existant!


At least in Melbourne, the drivers are ignorant but they know the rules.


Ken

I've observed that some Melbourne drivers think that the indicator is an
optional extra.

Road rules are an optional extra over here with at least 50% of the drivers!

Ken

 

[Eric Richards]

What part of Sydney was this ?

North Shore just near the bridge, I think it is called North Sydney.







Richard Freeman <bogoff@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:42f99977$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up.

What ! In Sydney ????????? What part of Sydney was this ???? what were you
smoking at the Time ???
I have been Driving in Sydney for a number of years now and cannot recall
this kind of Behaviour from any but the odd driver typical scenario two
lanes merging - first drivers in the Right lane notice that the traffic in
the right lane has slowed down so they change to the 10m of left lane and
help slow down the right lane by trying to barge in to the right lane again.
In fact I recall one weekend driving up to Katoomba and observing that where
the Highway was Single lane the Traffic flowed well but where ever the
Highway changed to two lanes the Traffic banked up and Ground to a halt.
And of course try driving North on the F3 any weekend and count the number
of crazed Psychopathic Gayboys Tailgating less than 2 meters off your rear
end at 110+Km/h (any lane - they tailgate in the left, middle or the right
Lane makes no difference).
In fact just last week I had a Gayboy tailgating and flashing his lights
because I had the temerity to slow down to 55km/h in a 50 zone

Of course Traffic reports in Sydney are largely a load of cobblers and any
areas reported as congested usually give you a clear run as all the gullible
folk avoid them- at best Traffic reports are 2 hours behind reality and at
worst they are completely wrong. I remember driving north on southern cross
Drive one afternoon listening to Traffic reports of a Fatal accident and
major Traffic congestion on Southern cross drive Thinking that there was
definitely no crash on Southern cross drive and in fact there was unusually
little Traffic for that time of the day I looked over to Anzac parade and
realised that judging by the emergency vehicles and serious congestion the
Crash was on Anzac parade - and to make things worse a lot of drivers were
using Anzac parade to avoid the 'accident on Southern cross drive'.
Well of course I rang the Radio station I was listening to, to let them know
however an hour or two later they were still reporting the crash as being on
Southern cross Drive.

Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

Try driving in Sydney even at over the speed limit and you will soon have
some Gayboy sniffing your exhaust pipe

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"

The fact you made a 'panic stop' without some Gayboy giving you a liberace
......

But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,

probably comparable per head of driving population .....

 

[Bob Parker]

I totally agree! Using turn signals and headlight low beam seem to
be something which many Sydney drivers do if they happen to feel like
it. Weaving from lane to lane and even giving opposite turn
indications to what they're really going to do are routine down here
south of the harbour.
If the coppers actually started booking some of these fools instead
of only enforcing the speed limit to make revenue, things might
change.
And returning the speed limits on arterial roads to their original
60-70km/h from the ludicrous 50 they've slapped onto a lot of them now
as nothing more than another blatant revenue-making exercise would
ease driver frustration (especially mine)
But this is nothing to do with electronics, not directly anyway.

Bob



"Ken Taylor" <ken@home.nz> wrote:

Road rules are an optional extra over here with at least 50% of the drivers!

Ken

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Bob Parker" <bobpdeletethis@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:ic7kf1dr6mf7ilp73t4d9tvc8aih6hcha3@4ax.com...

I totally agree! Using turn signals and headlight low beam seem to
be something which many Sydney drivers do if they happen to feel like
it. Weaving from lane to lane and even giving opposite turn
indications to what they're really going to do are routine down here
south of the harbour.
If the coppers actually started booking some of these fools instead
of only enforcing the speed limit to make revenue, things might
change.
And returning the speed limits on arterial roads to their original
60-70km/h from the ludicrous 50 they've slapped onto a lot of them now
as nothing more than another blatant revenue-making exercise would
ease driver frustration (especially mine)
But this is nothing to do with electronics, not directly anyway.

Bob

The best one over here is indicating on roundabouts. The law was recently

changed so that you have to indicate left when about to leave the
roundabout, even if you were going straight ahead. Now it's not like people
were indicating correctly before anyway (I think the change was to make the
law reflect what people usually do, coz it sure as hell makes no practical
sense!). Now plenty of people indicate left when approaching a roundabout,
maybe indicate right as they get on, then left again as they leave. Or they
indicate left only, even if they're going right. But it's a great law change
apparently as you (may) know that you can proceed into the roundabout a few
milliseconds before you could have if they didn't indicate their exit.

Ken

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Richard Freeman" <bogoff@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:42f99977$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au...

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...
Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side
street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up.

What ! In Sydney ????????? What part of Sydney was this ???? what were you
smoking at the Time ???
I have been Driving in Sydney for a number of years now and cannot recall
this kind of Behaviour from any but the odd driver typical scenario two
lanes merging - first drivers in the Right lane notice that the traffic in
the right lane has slowed down so they change to the 10m of left lane and
help slow down the right lane by trying to barge in to the right lane
again.
In fact I recall one weekend driving up to Katoomba and observing that
where the Highway was Single lane the Traffic flowed well but where ever
the Highway changed to two lanes the Traffic banked up and Ground to a
halt.
And of course try driving North on the F3 any weekend and count the number
of crazed Psychopathic Gayboys Tailgating less than 2 meters off your
rear end at 110+Km/h (any lane - they tailgate in the left, middle or the
right Lane makes no difference).
In fact just last week I had a Gayboy tailgating and flashing his lights
because I had the temerity to slow down to 55km/h in a 50 zone

When I moved from Melbourne to Sydney (quite) a few years back, the Ryde
Bridge was still the single carriageway of old. I had to merge down to one
lane as I went against the peak flow. *No-one* would let me in, I had to
just go for it. UNTIL I changed to NSW plates, then all was roses.......

Ah, Sydney-Melbourne rivalry strikes again.....

Ken

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Eric Richards" <sum1@home.nz> wrote in message
news:42f8fe7d@clear.net.nz...

Sorry for the topic & the posting, but there is a point read on,

Lets see there are about one million people living in Auckland, all day
long
on a Auckland Radio station "MoreFM" there are reports of road accidents,
fine weather, wet weather it makes no difference, the accidents keep on
coming in and updates every 15 minutes.

I was in Sydney while there was a bus strike, I was really impressed, one
car from the main road would stop and let one car in from the side street,
then that car from the main road would go and then another car in from a
side street, exactly like a "zip" zipping up. Try doing that in Auckland,
get real you would either get tooted at, are some "gay driver" would ram
you, trying to get up your exhaust pipe, in fact Auckland has a lot of gay
drivers trying get up your exhaust pipe.

I can recall one day when I was out doing home TV repairs, following a car
that stopped at a round about, I had to make a panic stop, the joker in
front stopped for no reason, not because there was anyone on the
roundabout
on his right but because he stopped there was someone on his left, not a
lot
of driver in Auckland know the "right hand rule"


But anyway, how does this compare with the accidents rate in other cities,


Regarding the radio reports, have you noticed how inaccurate they are?

Hauraki FM is particularly bad but I don't think More is much better (hey, a
pun!). They are generally way out, reporting accidents and their clearing a
long time after the incident occurs. I keep a scanner on Motorway channel to
find out what's going on.

Cheers.

Ken

 

[Terry Given]

Ken Taylor wrote:

"Bob Parker" <bobpdeletethis@despammed.com> wrote in message
news:ic7kf1dr6mf7ilp73t4d9tvc8aih6hcha3@4ax.com...

I totally agree! Using turn signals and headlight low beam seem to
be something which many Sydney drivers do if they happen to feel like
it. Weaving from lane to lane and even giving opposite turn
indications to what they're really going to do are routine down here
south of the harbour.
If the coppers actually started booking some of these fools instead
of only enforcing the speed limit to make revenue, things might
change.
And returning the speed limits on arterial roads to their original
60-70km/h from the ludicrous 50 they've slapped onto a lot of them now
as nothing more than another blatant revenue-making exercise would
ease driver frustration (especially mine)
But this is nothing to do with electronics, not directly anyway.

Bob


The best one over here is indicating on roundabouts. The law was recently
changed so that you have to indicate left when about to leave the
roundabout, even if you were going straight ahead. Now it's not like people
were indicating correctly before anyway (I think the change was to make the
law reflect what people usually do, coz it sure as hell makes no practical
sense!). Now plenty of people indicate left when approaching a roundabout,
maybe indicate right as they get on, then left again as they leave. Or they
indicate left only, even if they're going right. But it's a great law change
apparently as you (may) know that you can proceed into the roundabout a few
milliseconds before you could have if they didn't indicate their exit.

Ken

Dont forget you still have to indicate for 3 seconds....

My favourite trick is backwards round a corner thru a red light.

I once stopped a yank who was slowly driving onto the Symonds St.
off-ramp - we were both stopped at the lights going up Symonds st, and
he turned left. So I rode up beside him and banged on his window, then
explained he was about to kill his entire family. 1988 or so.


Try driving in Massachussetts, where jaywalking is illegal but
pedestrians have right of way ?! Seriously crazy driving.

In 1998 there was a push by the Boston city council to lower the speed
limit from 30mph to 20mph to cut down pedestrian fatalities. This
despite the fact that the average speed for traffic was 50mph.

I left auckland 2 years ago, and I sure dont miss the traffic. Here in
Te Aroha we dont have traffic lights or even a roundabout Shame about
all the retired folks though


Cheers
Terry

 

[Ken Taylor]

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:litKe.1798$iM2.155947@news.xtra.co.nz...

Ken Taylor wrote:
The best one over here is indicating on roundabouts. The law was recently
changed so that you have to indicate left when about to leave the
roundabout, even if you were going straight ahead. Now it's not like
people were indicating correctly before anyway (I think the change was to
make the law reflect what people usually do, coz it sure as hell makes no
practical sense!). Now plenty of people indicate left when approaching a
roundabout, maybe indicate right as they get on, then left again as they
leave. Or they indicate left only, even if they're going right. But it's
a great law change apparently as you (may) know that you can proceed into
the roundabout a few milliseconds before you could have if they didn't
indicate their exit.

Ken

Dont forget you still have to indicate for 3 seconds....

My favourite trick is backwards round a corner thru a red light.

I once stopped a yank who was slowly driving onto the Symonds St.
off-ramp - we were both stopped at the lights going up Symonds st, and he
turned left. So I rode up beside him and banged on his window, then
explained he was about to kill his entire family. 1988 or so.


Try driving in Massachussetts, where jaywalking is illegal but pedestrians
have right of way ?! Seriously crazy driving.

In 1998 there was a push by the Boston city council to lower the speed
limit from 30mph to 20mph to cut down pedestrian fatalities. This despite
the fact that the average speed for traffic was 50mph.

I left auckland 2 years ago, and I sure dont miss the traffic. Here in Te
Aroha we dont have traffic lights or even a roundabout Shame about all
the retired folks though


Cheers
Terry

One of the guys here at work was lucky one night - the last time a lady went
north on the southbound carriageway of the Southern Motorway, he saw her
flash by him in the next lane, missing him by inches (IIRC, she killed the
guy a couple of cars back, plus herself).

I guess I shouldn't complain too much - my home town in country Victoria has
equal problems with roundabouts, but it has 8,000 people and many of those
farmers without a clue how to drive in town. What excuse does Auckland have?


Cheers.

Ken

 

[Terry Given]

Ken Taylor wrote:

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:litKe.1798$iM2.155947@news.xtra.co.nz...

Ken Taylor wrote:

The best one over here is indicating on roundabouts. The law was recently
changed so that you have to indicate left when about to leave the
roundabout, even if you were going straight ahead. Now it's not like
people were indicating correctly before anyway (I think the change was to
make the law reflect what people usually do, coz it sure as hell makes no
practical sense!). Now plenty of people indicate left when approaching a
roundabout, maybe indicate right as they get on, then left again as they
leave. Or they indicate left only, even if they're going right. But it's
a great law change apparently as you (may) know that you can proceed into
the roundabout a few milliseconds before you could have if they didn't
indicate their exit.

Ken

Dont forget you still have to indicate for 3 seconds....

My favourite trick is backwards round a corner thru a red light.

I once stopped a yank who was slowly driving onto the Symonds St.
off-ramp - we were both stopped at the lights going up Symonds st, and he
turned left. So I rode up beside him and banged on his window, then
explained he was about to kill his entire family. 1988 or so.


Try driving in Massachussetts, where jaywalking is illegal but pedestrians
have right of way ?! Seriously crazy driving.

In 1998 there was a push by the Boston city council to lower the speed
limit from 30mph to 20mph to cut down pedestrian fatalities. This despite
the fact that the average speed for traffic was 50mph.

I left auckland 2 years ago, and I sure dont miss the traffic. Here in Te
Aroha we dont have traffic lights or even a roundabout Shame about all
the retired folks though


Cheers
Terry


One of the guys here at work was lucky one night - the last time a lady went
north on the southbound carriageway of the Southern Motorway, he saw her
flash by him in the next lane, missing him by inches (IIRC, she killed the
guy a couple of cars back, plus herself).

Bloody lucky.

and someone did that on the NW Mway not so long ago too.

I guess I shouldn't complain too much - my home town in country Victoria has
equal problems with roundabouts, but it has 8,000 people and many of those
farmers without a clue how to drive in town. What excuse does Auckland have?

the same excuse everyone else has: on average people are ratshit
drivers, and are all convinced they are Michael Schumacher (when really
its more like that useless fuck Mike Barltrop).

The scary part is that a small splash of paint is all that separates you
from oncoming traffic.

Cheers.

Ken

Oh yeah, I drive back and forth on SH2 a couple of times each week. Man
have I seen some scary driving. Along with having a couple of
swerve-or-die episodes.

In the early 1980s, Dad was driving me back from work one Friday night
(about 1:30am), and talking about defensive driving. He said to always
slow down at green lights, especially late at night, because "coloured
lights never stopped anyone". Perhaps 10 minutes later, he did that
approaching an intersection, and a fully laden logging truck roared thru
a red light right in front of us, way above 50kph. It scared the fuck
out of me.

Cheers
Terry

 

[Ken Taylor]

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Ken Taylor wrote:
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Ken Taylor wrote:

The best one over here is indicating on roundabouts. The law was
recently changed so that you have to indicate left when about to leave
the roundabout, even if you were going straight ahead. Now it's not like
people were indicating correctly before anyway (I think the change was
to make the law reflect what people usually do, coz it sure as hell
makes no practical sense!). Now plenty of people indicate left when
approaching a roundabout, maybe indicate right as they get on, then left
again as they leave. Or they indicate left only, even if they're going
right. But it's a great law change apparently as you (may) know that you
can proceed into the roundabout a few milliseconds before you could have
if they didn't indicate their exit.

Ken

Dont forget you still have to indicate for 3 seconds....

My favourite trick is backwards round a corner thru a red light.

I once stopped a yank who was slowly driving onto the Symonds St.
off-ramp - we were both stopped at the lights going up Symonds st, and he
turned left. So I rode up beside him and banged on his window, then
explained he was about to kill his entire family. 1988 or so.


Try driving in Massachussetts, where jaywalking is illegal but
pedestrians have right of way ?! Seriously crazy driving.

In 1998 there was a push by the Boston city council to lower the speed
limit from 30mph to 20mph to cut down pedestrian fatalities. This despite
the fact that the average speed for traffic was 50mph.

I left auckland 2 years ago, and I sure dont miss the traffic. Here in Te
Aroha we dont have traffic lights or even a roundabout Shame about all
the retired folks though


Cheers
Terry


One of the guys here at work was lucky one night - the last time a lady
went north on the southbound carriageway of the Southern Motorway, he saw
her flash by him in the next lane, missing him by inches (IIRC, she
killed the guy a couple of cars back, plus herself).

Bloody lucky.

and someone did that on the NW Mway not so long ago too.


I guess I shouldn't complain too much - my home town in country Victoria
has equal problems with roundabouts, but it has 8,000 people and many of
those farmers without a clue how to drive in town. What excuse does
Auckland have?

the same excuse everyone else has: on average people are ratshit drivers,
and are all convinced they are Michael Schumacher (when really its more
like that useless fuck Mike Barltrop).

The scary part is that a small splash of paint is all that separates you
from oncoming traffic.


Cheers.

Ken

Oh yeah, I drive back and forth on SH2 a couple of times each week. Man
have I seen some scary driving. Along with having a couple of
swerve-or-die episodes.

In the early 1980s, Dad was driving me back from work one Friday night
(about 1:30am), and talking about defensive driving. He said to always
slow down at green lights, especially late at night, because "coloured
lights never stopped anyone". Perhaps 10 minutes later, he did that
approaching an intersection, and a fully laden logging truck roared thru a
red light right in front of us, way above 50kph. It scared the fuck out of
me.

Cheers
Terry

Yeah, a 4WD T-Boned a small car at the lights around from work this morning.
Methinks someone ran a red.

Cheers.

Ken

 

[Richard Freeman]

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And of course try driving North on the F3 any weekend and count the
number
of crazed Psychopathic Gayboys Tailgating less than 2 meters off your
rear
end at 110+Km/h (any lane - they tailgate in the left, middle or the
right
Lane makes no difference).
In fact just last week I had a Gayboy tailgating and flashing his lights
because I had the temerity to slow down to 55km/h in a 50 zone

You got feet? Your brake lights work? Use 'em. Ride the brakes for 2km,
and
then ever so slowly ease off the accelerator until you're doing
substantially under the limit without them realising. Then speed back up
to
the limit. They usually play catchup then drop back because they now think
they're speeding... Works well on the M4 for me.

I usually slow down when a gayboy crawls up my rear end on the grounds that
if gayboy is not going to allow a safe distance then I am obliged to.

Of course, you may want to take the route of instant gratification... pike
with no warning and watch the clouds of smoke behind you.

Problem is that unless you have a valid reason for Braking or can appear to
have a valid reason for braking then you are technically at fault if/when
the car behind hits you and the last thing you say is that you Braked
deliberately - of course if the gayboy is that far up your arse then he/it
cannot clearly see the road ahead of you.
BTW braking for an Animal could still get you in Trouble unless you claim
that the Braking was instinctive .....
Lights are a favourite Braking spot combined with the claim that you were
distracted by Gayboy behind Tailgating, Flashing its lights etc .....

Last Time I was liberaced I had had a gayboy on my Tail from North Sydney
( sorry Eric gayboys hang around North Sydney as well you must have had an
exceptional series of coincidences during your visit) at around 2:00Am one
morning who refused to pass even when I slowed down where the road went to
two lanes. I waited however for once all the lights were with me until a
pedestrian ran across the road in front of me at Hornsby........ I was
intrigued to note that he slid under the rear end of the commodore I was
driving efore he backed up from under the rear of my car and drove off.
Another interesting note is that when you visit the police to inform them of
another driver departing an accident without leaving their details they
always assume you were at Fault until they find otherwise.

Another Time I had a gayboy on my tail one night and Braked heavily .....
The gayboy had his Lights and sirens going before we came to a halt. The
Police commodore obviously braked better than the Loaded up standard
commodore as he did not hit me ....

My most positive driving experiences have been on the South Island of NZ -
truck drivers pulling over to let you pass, other drivers letting you in etc
etc of course the strangest part was driving through Christchurch with my
Grandfather when he commented that the Traffic seemed rather heavy that day.
I am still not sure to this day if he meant the two cars stopped at Lights
or something else - coming from Sydney I could not even see any Traffic let
alone heavy Traffic.