OT: Aldi tools

On 4/1/2012 2:01 AM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:9thcftFoetU1@mid.individual.net...
On 3/29/2012 7:09 AM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote ...

**Pre-zactly. It's why I spent $400.00 on my soldering iron

I bought a Weller WTCPN soldering station around 1982 for about $80 or so, a lot of money at the time but it is still working,
and I
have never needed another iron.
The plug/socket eventually got a bit loose so I replaced it a few years ago, but it still has the original trannie,element and
barrel.
These brilliantly simple Curie-point temperature-controlled irons will still be working when fancy 'modern' electronic units
have
long since failed.

**In your dreams. I've owned several Wellers (Curie point types). They're crap (poor temperature regulation), parts are expensive
and they're unreliable (I've had transformer, heater and switch failures). My Ersa has been brilliant. Apart from tips, it simply
keeps working. Best of all, I keep it at 150 degrees C, so it can be ready for work in a few seconds. Tips last longer. I also use
a Hakko, which is also excellent and VASTLY better than any Weller. I prefer the Ersa. I have vowed never to buy a Cooper Tools
product again. The company is huge and doesn't give a crap about delivering quality at a decent price.

Not dreaming, fuckwit.
**You're a nice peice of work.

You experience is vastly different from mine, then. Bad luck for you, good luck
for me perhaps.
**I've been using soldering irons for a long time. I know quality and
Weller is not.

Makes me wonder why you went back and bought more than one.
**Because back then, there were few choices, other than Weller.


Idiots repeat
their mistakes, I suppose.
**There you go again. What's your problem?

I can only report that the only Weller WTCPN that I have EVER bought is still
working after nearly 30 years and if you come back in 30 years with a similar
report on your Asian purchases I would be amazed.
**Ersa is made in Germany. Hakko is Japanese and better than Weller
could dream about manufacturing.

I have had NO PROBLEMS
with the heater, transformer or switch. Only the plug/socket became loose.
**Lucky you. After you use a decent iron, you may decide that the Weller
is not so great after all.

--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 
"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:9tpdhiFfgiU1@mid.individual.net...
On 4/1/2012 2:01 AM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message news:9thcftFoetU1@mid.individual.net...
On 3/29/2012 7:09 AM, Yaputya wrote:
"Trevor Wilson"<trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote ...

**Pre-zactly. It's why I spent $400.00 on my soldering iron

I bought a Weller WTCPN soldering station around 1982 for about $80 or so, a lot of money at the time but it is still working,
and I
have never needed another iron.
The plug/socket eventually got a bit loose so I replaced it a few years ago, but it still has the original trannie,element and
barrel.
These brilliantly simple Curie-point temperature-controlled irons will still be working when fancy 'modern' electronic units
have
long since failed.

**In your dreams. I've owned several Wellers (Curie point types). They're crap (poor temperature regulation), parts are
expensive
and they're unreliable (I've had transformer, heater and switch failures). My Ersa has been brilliant. Apart from tips, it
simply
keeps working. Best of all, I keep it at 150 degrees C, so it can be ready for work in a few seconds. Tips last longer. I also
use
a Hakko, which is also excellent and VASTLY better than any Weller. I prefer the Ersa. I have vowed never to buy a Cooper Tools
product again. The company is huge and doesn't give a crap about delivering quality at a decent price.

Not dreaming, fuckwit.

**You're a nice peice of work.
Come on, you deserved it. "**in your dreams" is not exactly polite.

You experience is vastly different from mine, then. Bad luck for you, good luck
for me perhaps.

**I've been using soldering irons for a long time. I know quality and Weller is not.
So have I, and the Weller I bought in the 80's still works.

Makes me wonder why you went back and bought more than one.

**Because back then, there were few choices, other than Weller.
Mine is MADE IN AUSTRALIA. Still works fine.


Idiots repeat
their mistakes, I suppose.

**There you go again. What's your problem?
Your lack of respect for my experience, even if it conflicts with yours.

I can only report that the only Weller WTCPN that I have EVER bought is still
working after nearly 30 years and if you come back in 30 years with a similar
report on your Asian purchases I would be amazed.

**Ersa is made in Germany. Hakko is Japanese and better than Weller could dream about manufacturing.
Wunderbar.

I have had NO PROBLEMS
with the heater, transformer or switch. Only the plug/socket became loose.

**Lucky you. After you use a decent iron, you may decide that the Weller is not so great after all.
My Weller WTCPN is not in need of replacement. I am only reporting my
experience with my good AUSSIE-manufactured iron from the '80's.
 
On 3/29/2012 3:43 PM, kreed wrote:
On Mar 29, 7:00 am, Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au
wrote:
On 3/29/2012 7:09 AM, Yaputya wrote:

"Trevor Wilson"<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in messagenews:9tf3p8FkatU1@mid.individual.net...

**Pre-zactly. It's why I spent $400.00 on my soldering iron

I bought a Weller WTCPN soldering station around 1982 for about $80 or so, a lot of money at the time but it is still working, and I
have never needed another iron.
The plug/socket eventually got a bit loose so I replaced it a few years ago, but it still has the original trannie,element and
barrel.
These brilliantly simple Curie-point temperature-controlled irons will still be working when fancy 'modern' electronic units have
long since failed.

**In your dreams. I've owned several Wellers (Curie point types).
They're crap (poor temperature regulation), parts are expensive and
they're unreliable (I've had transformer, heater and switch failures).
My Ersa has been brilliant. Apart from tips, it simply keeps working.
Best of all, I keep it at 150 degrees C, so it can be ready for work in
a few seconds. Tips last longer. I also use a Hakko, which is also
excellent and VASTLY better than any Weller. I prefer the Ersa. I have
vowed never to buy a Cooper Tools product again. The company is huge and
doesn't give a crap about delivering quality at a decent price.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au


I would agree with all of that. The only interesting point to make is
that I bought my first
Weller magnastat iron about 1987, and it did work for many years with
moderate workshop use until the element
failed. Unfortunately the replacement elements I bought only lasted a
1-2 years at most before going open,
and I gave it up as a bad joke after copping this expense a couple of
times and dumped the iron in the bin.

It is possible that 1980's Weller models had a much better element
than was used later
and/or sold as a spare part. If what the OP is true, and they are not
referring to an iron that
is only used a few times a year and will take forever to wear out -
then this is likely the reason.
One word of advice - If your element ever fails, DONT replace it, dump
the iron in the bin and buy Ersa or Hakko.
**I have no evidence, but I bet the rot set in when Cooper Tools
purchased Weller. Cooper Tools is Hell-bent on ensuring that all their
products are rooted in mediocrity.

--
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
 

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