"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:49:05 -0000, 87213 <87213@gmail.com> wrote:
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW?
They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always
better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be.
For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original that we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car
battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
People are free to microwave at a lower power if they wish Rod. Nothing
wrong with increasing the maximum available Mr Speed.
Maybe I don't cook thick enough stuff.
Yep, you vegys don't.
We eat real food Rod,
But not in big enough chunks to
see the effect being discussed.
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 6:37:22 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 6:30:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Gill wrote:
On 12/29/2018 12:06 PM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:00:47 -0000, Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 11:29 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On 2018-12-29 10:26 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:46:52 -0000, Andy Bennet <andyb@andy.com> wrote:
On 29/12/2018 13:43, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW? They
were invented decades ago.
High power microwaves (>1MW) are used in industry in for example ore
extraction/rock pulverizing.
1MW into a cup of water is not pretty, explodes the water contents and
breaks the cup.
I don't need a MW, but the usual 600W to 900W in domestic ovens is
pitiful. What's wrong with 2kW?
too expensive
1200 watt consumer microwaves are widely available. Check your
Walmart or whatever you have.
1200W isn't much more than the 900W most are.
Let me see: 900 / 1200 = .75.
So a 900 Watt microwave has 3/4 of the power of
a 1200 Watt microwave. Or looking at it the other
way a 1200 Watt microwave has 1/3 more power than
a 900 Watt microwave. That doesn't sound like a
negligible difference. I know when I accidentally
replaced my 1200 Watt unit with an 1100 Watt unit
I noticed the difference. (I didn't look closely
enough when I grabbed it off of the shelf.)
Bill
+1
It's like saying that going 90 mph isn't much more than going 60. Maybe that helps.
Typo there, meant 80 versus 60.
p.zus3lxpe7uplkq@desktop-ga2mpl8.lan...On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 22:49:05 -0000, 87213 <87213@gmail.com> wrote:
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW?
They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always
better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be.
For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original that we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car
battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
People are free to microwave at a lower power if they wish Rod. Nothing
wrong with increasing the maximum available Mr Speed.
Maybe I don't cook thick enough stuff.
Yep, you vegys don't.
We eat real food Rod,
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 6:30:41 PM UTC-5, Bill Gill wrote:
On 12/29/2018 12:06 PM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 18:00:47 -0000, Bill Gill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 11:29 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On 2018-12-29 10:26 a.m., William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 14:46:52 -0000, Andy Bennet <andyb@andy.com> wrote:
On 29/12/2018 13:43, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW? They
were invented decades ago.
High power microwaves (>1MW) are used in industry in for example ore
extraction/rock pulverizing.
1MW into a cup of water is not pretty, explodes the water contents and
breaks the cup.
I don't need a MW, but the usual 600W to 900W in domestic ovens is
pitiful. What's wrong with 2kW?
too expensive
1200 watt consumer microwaves are widely available. Check your
Walmart or whatever you have.
1200W isn't much more than the 900W most are.
Let me see: 900 / 1200 = .75.
So a 900 Watt microwave has 3/4 of the power of
a 1200 Watt microwave. Or looking at it the other
way a 1200 Watt microwave has 1/3 more power than
a 900 Watt microwave. That doesn't sound like a
negligible difference. I know when I accidentally
replaced my 1200 Watt unit with an 1100 Watt unit
I noticed the difference. (I didn't look closely
enough when I grabbed it off of the shelf.)
Bill
+1
It's like saying that going 90 mph isn't much more than going 60. Maybe that helps.
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW?
They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be. For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original that we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
87213 wrote:
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW?
They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always
better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be.
For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original that we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car
battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
Do it all the time, for ten seconds for one or two eggs to bring to room
temp from the fridge.
"FMurtz" <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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87213 wrote:
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few
kW? They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always
better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be.
For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the
current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original
that we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car
battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've
never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
Do it all the time, for ten seconds for one or two eggs to bring to
room temp from the fridge.
That's not cooking it.
He just said microwaving it
Just noticed that Laucke also have a Super
Soft bread mix. Have you tried that one ?
Rod Speed wrote:
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87213 wrote:
"William Gothberg" <William_Gothberg@internet.co.is> wrote in message
news
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 21:23:55 -0000, mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
On 12/29/2018 10:16 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 17:38:04 -0000, Clare Snyder
clare@snyder.on.ca
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 08:07:42 -0800, Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 6:37 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, December 29, 2018 at 9:23:42 AM UTC-5, Bill Gill
wrote:
On 12/29/2018 7:43 AM, William Gothberg wrote:
Shouldn't we have faster microwaves by now giving out a few kW?
They
were invented decades ago.
Higher powered microwaves would require higher powered electric
outlets, probably 220VAC (in the USA).
Also it is questionable whether higher powered ovens would be
practical for use. Getting warming times down to a couple of
seconds might not be a good idea. More speed is not always
better.
Bill
+1
That about covers it. Not sure how useful more power would be.
For
example,
last night I was thawing out a tomato sauce in a quart plastic
container.
The Panasonic has a defrost mode that uses about 30% power and
cycles that.
It gets the 30% power by cycling the 100% power on 30% of the
time.
(By the way, adjusting the level does not actually change the
wattage.
It simply means the microwave will pulse on and off at its fixed
wattage
until the desired level is reached.)
https://lifehacker.com/5974788/familiarize-yourself-with-your-microwaves-power-settings-to-make-microwave-cooking-a-joy
That was true of the first generation of Microwaves, but the
current
"inverter" driver units actually CAN throttle the power. Inverter
microwaves are much better for defrosting AND cooking.
We've had ours for about 2 years now - replacing our original that
we
bought in about 1985.
BIG difference (but the old one would likely still be working by
the
time this one dies)
Why is it called an invertor? I thought an invertor was a device to
increase the voltage - like running 240V devices off a 12V car
battery.
And why on earth would you not want to cook on full power? I've
never
had a reason to lower the power from the maximum of 800W. I want
the
meal as soon as possible!
There's been a lot of nitpicking in this thread.
All microwaves reduce power by cycling between 0 and 100% power.
The relative power level is the duty factor of that on/off cycle.
Older microwaves switch the INPUT to the power transformer.
That also runs the filament. The time to heat up the filament
is the limiting factor in how short you can make the on-time.
You get a minimum of about 10 seconds on-time.
That minimum time is plenty to make food explode.
Better microwaves are called "Inverter" microwaves.
I believe they're all licensed from Panasonic.
When I bought mine, it seemed that all the licensees had
dried up leaving Panasonic as the only locally available units.
It's my understanding that they heat the filament independently
and can have very short on-times. Duty factor is the same as
the older microwaves, but the on-time can be much shorter.
Foods don't explode on low power like they used to.
Food is not uniform. The effectiveness of microwaves decreases
as the food thickness increases. There's a thermal time constant.
So, if you cook at lower average power for longer time,
you can warm the inside without seriously overcooking the outside
or having local boiling that makes food explode.
The minimum on-time really helps with that. I haven't had food
explode since I got an Inverter microwave. The defrost cycle
really does work well.
They're slightly more expensive, but it's worth it.
I've never exploded food on a non-invertor microwave.
Try microwaving an egg in its shell sometime.
Do it all the time, for ten seconds for one or two eggs to bring to room
temp from the fridge.
That's not cooking it.
He just said microwaving it