Only one EV charger at home?!...

[Commander Kinsey]

https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in.. In this scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars charge at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW. You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in fact three if you\'re not using much power for anything else. Why are people so stupid? 7 x 2 = 14, well under 24. 7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 08:34:27 +0100, Birdbrain Macaw (aka \"Commander Kinsey\",
\"James Wilkinson\", \"Steven Wanker\",\"Bruce Farquar\", \"Fred Johnson, etc.),
the pathological resident idiot and attention whore of all the uk ngs,
blathered again:

<FLUSH the subnormal sociopathic trolling attention whore\'s latest
attention-baiting sick bullshit unread again>

--
damduck-egg@yahoo.co.uk about Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL)
trolling:
\"He is a well known attention seeking troll and every reply you
make feeds him.
Starts many threads most of which die quick as on the UK groups anyone
with sense Kill filed him ages ago which is why he now cross posts to
the US groups for a new audience.
This thread was unusual in that it derived and continued without him
to a large extent and his silly questioning is an attempt to get
noticed again.\"
MID: <be195d5jh0hktj054mvfu7ef9ap854mjdb@4ax.com>

--
ItsJoanNotJoann addressing Birdbrain Macaw\'s (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"You\'re an annoying troll and I\'m done with you and your
stupidity.\"
MID: <e39a6a7f-9677-4e78-a866-0590fe5bbc38@googlegroups.com>

--
AndyW addressing Birdbrain:
\"Troll or idiot?...
You have been presented with a viewpoint with information, reasoning,
historical cases, citations and references to back it up and wilfully
ignore all going back to your idea which has no supporting information.\"
MID: <KaToA.263621$g93.262397@fx10.am4>

--
Phil Lee adressing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"You are too stupid to be wasting oxygen.\"
MID: <uv2u4clurscpat3g29l7aksbohsassufe2@4ax.com>

--
Phil Lee describing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"I\'ve never seen such misplaced pride in being a fucking moronic motorist.\"
MID: <j7fb6ct83igfd1g99rmu4gh9vf610ra3jk@4ax.com>

--
Tony944 addressing Birdbrain Macaw:
\"I seen and heard many people but you are on top of list being first class
ass hole jerk. ...You fit under unconditional Idiot and should be put in
mental institution.
MID: <VLCdnYC5HK1Z4S3FnZ2dnUU7-dPNnZ2d@giganews.com>

--
Pelican to Birdbrain Macaw:
\"Ok. I\'m persuaded . You are an idiot.\"
MID: <obru31$nao$3@dont-email.me>

--
DerbyDad03 addressing Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"Frigging Idiot. Get the hell out of my thread.\"
MID: <4d907253-b3b9-40d4-be4d-b32d453937e0@googlegroups.com>

--
Kerr Mudd-John about Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey LOL):
\"It\'s like arguing with a demented frog.\"
MID: <op.yy3c02cqmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup>

--
Mr Pounder Esquire about Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"the piss poor delivery boy with no hot running water, 11 cats and
several parrots living in his hovel.\"
MID: <odqtgc$iug$1@dont-email.me>

--
Rob Morley about Birdbrain:
\"He\'s a perennial idiot\"
MID: <20170519215057.56a1f1d4@Mars>

--
JoeyDee to Birdbrain
\"I apologize for thinking you were a jerk. You\'re just someone with an IQ
lower than your age, and I accept that as a reason for your comments.\"
MID: <0001HW.1EE2D20300E7BECC700004A512CF@news.eternal-september.org>

--
Sam Plusnet about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"He\'s just desperate to be noticed. Any attention will do, no matter how
negative it may be.\"
MID: <rOmdndd_O7u8iK7EnZ2dnUU78TGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>

--
thekmanrocks@gmail.com asking Birdbrain:
\"What, were you dropped on your head as a child?\"
MID: <58ddfad5-d9a5-4031-b91f-1850245a6ed9@googlegroups.com>

--
Christie addressing endlessly driveling Birdbrain Macaw (now \"Commander
Kinsey\" LOL):
\"What are you resurrecting that old post of mine for? It\'s from last
month some time. You\'re like a dog who\'s just dug up an old bone they
hid in the garden until they were ready to have another go at it.\"
MID: <59d8b0db.4113512@news.eternal-september.org>

--
Mr Pounder\'s fitting description of Birdbrain Macaw:
\"You are a well known fool, a tosser, a pillock, a stupid unemployable
sponging failure who will always live alone and will die alone. You will not
be missed.\"
MID: <orree6$on2$1@dont-email.me>

--
Richard to pathetic wanker Hucker:
\"You haven\'t bred?
Only useful thing you\'ve done in your pathetic existence.\"
MID: <orvctf$l5m$1@gioia.aioe.org>

--
clare@snyder.on.ca about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"\"not the sharpest knife in the drawer\"\'s parents sure made a serious
mistake having him born alive -- A total waste of oxygen, food, space,
and bandwidth.\"
MID: <s5e9uclqpnabtehehg3d792tmll73se0g8@4ax.com>

--
Mr Pounder exposing sociopathic Birdbrain:
\"You will always be a lonely sociopath living in a shithole with no hot
running water with loads of stinking cats and a few parrots.\"
MID: <os5m1i$8m1$1@dont-email.me>

--
francis about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"He seems to have a reputation as someone of limited intelligence\"
MID: <cf06cdd9-8bb8-469c-800a-0dfa4c2f9ffa@googlegroups.com>

--
Peter Moylan about Birdbrain (now \"Commander Kinsey\" LOL):
\"If people like JWS didn\'t exist, we would have to find some other way to
explain the concept of \"invincible ignorance\".\"
MID: <otofc8$tbg$2@dont-email.me>

--
Lewis about nym-shifting Birdbrain:
\"Typical narcissist troll, thinks his shit is so grand he has the right to
try to force it on everyone
MID: <slrnq16c27.1h4g.g.kreme@jaka.local>

 

[Brian Gaff]

You may need to delve deeper into how efficient the actual chargers are to
get a real answer to this. It sounds like a cludge to me. Obviously both
outputs need to be completely separate and I certainly don\'t know how much
of the charge rate processing is done in a charger, and how much in the car.
Brian

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\"Some products will have the ability to \"load share\", which means they will
communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this scenario, they
will evenly split the power available so both cars charge at the same rate,
but this will be at around 3-3.6kW - in other words half of the available
7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW. You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in
fact three if you\'re not using much power for anything else. Why are people
so stupid? 7 x 2 = 14, well under 24. 7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

Not sure what you\'re getting at, but they draw off a 32A circuit. Clearly you can fit two or even three 32A circuits in a 100A supply.


On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 11:05:27 +0100, Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

You may need to delve deeper into how efficient the actual chargers are to
get a real answer to this. It sounds like a cludge to me. Obviously both
outputs need to be completely separate and I certainly don\'t know how much
of the charge rate processing is done in a charger, and how much in the car.
Brian

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 11:05:27 +0100, Brainless & Daft, the TV-watching and
pity-baiting senile \"blind\" mole, blathered again:

You may need to delve deeper into how efficient the actual chargers are to
get a real answer to this. It sounds like a cludge to me. Obviously both
outputs need to be completely separate and I certainly don\'t know how much
of the charge rate processing is done in a charger, and how much in the car.
Brainless & Daft

Look, who\'s first to feed the stinking troll! It\'s Brainless & Daft, the
pity-baiting stinking \"blind\" mole who believes because of his \"handicap\" he
got more liberties than others! You\'ll soon be in for some special
treatment, you disgusting useless shithead!

 

[Ed Lee]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 3:18:56 AM UTC-7, Commander Kinsey wrote:
> Not sure what you\'re getting at, but they draw off a 32A circuit. Clearly you can fit two or even three 32A circuits in a 100A supply.

So, you are complaining about a buying a cheap charger with internal parts limited to 32A, which has nothing to do with limits from the external wiring.

Ask yourself, \"Why did i buy a 500W heater when i could have 1000W?\"

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 11:05:27 +0100, Brian Gaff <brian...@gmail.com> wrote:

You may need to delve deeper into how efficient the actual chargers are to
get a real answer to this. It sounds like a cludge to me. Obviously both
outputs need to be completely separate and I certainly don\'t know how much
of the charge rate processing is done in a charger, and how much in the car.
Brian

 

[Ricky]

On Sunday, April 16, 2023 at 6:05:37 AM UTC-4, Brian Gaff wrote:

You may need to delve deeper into how efficient the actual chargers are to
get a real answer to this. It sounds like a cludge to me. Obviously both
outputs need to be completely separate and I certainly don\'t know how much
of the charge rate processing is done in a charger, and how much in the car.

It\'s not often that a reply to Commander Kinky is a bad as his question, but I think you\'ve met the requirements. The main issue is that you are responding on a topic you know nothing about, which you admit in your post!

A level 2 \"charger\" (the correct name is \"charging point\" or EVSE), is not a charger at all. It is just a connection to the AC power source, with some safety circuitry added. The \"sharing\", is simply the fact that the installation was done at a specific current rating for the two chargers combined and they sum of the two currents is not to be above that rating.

There is a protocol for the EVSE to report to the car how much current is available. It is then up to the car to not draw more than this amount. When one car is plugged in, the full available current is reported. When a second car is plugged in, the EVSE reports to the first car half the current, and the car cuts back the current drawn.

Commander Kinky seems to think it would be acceptable to provide the entire household current to charging cars. But homeowners and the people who approve home wiring, feel differently.

3.6 kW is plenty of power to charge a car. If you want a pair of 7.2 kW chargers, there nothing to stop you from doing that, assuming your home wiring is suitable. So kinky\'s objections are silly.

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\"Some products will have the ability to \"load share\", which means they will
communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this scenario, they
will evenly split the power available so both cars charge at the same rate,
but this will be at around 3-3.6kW - in other words half of the available
7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW. You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in
fact three if you\'re not using much power for anything else. Why are people
so stupid? 7 x 2 = 14, well under 24. 7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

 

[Colin Bignell]

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:

https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF?  A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in
fact three if you\'re not using much power for anything else.  Why are
people so stupid?  7 x 2 = 14, well under 24.  7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

--
Colin Bignell

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell, an especially retarded
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:


> The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Yeah, keep educating a trolling attention whore! LMAO

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis..me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks. 240V, 100A. Never seen anything else.

And two 7s still fit in 17.

 

[Colin Bignell]

On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF?  A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks.  240V, 100A.  Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

> And two 7s still fit in 17.

Not with a great deal to spare for other uses.

--
Colin Bignell

 

[Peeler]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:44:30 +0100, Colin Bignell, an especially retarded
troll-feeding senile ASSHOLE, blathered:

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

And two 7s still fit in 17.

Not with a great deal to spare for other uses.

So for how long will your idiotic \"discussion\" with the troll still go on,
troll-feeding senile idiot?

 

[Carlos E.R.]

On 2023-04-16 20:44, Colin Bignell wrote:

On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF?  A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks.  240V, 100A.  Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Do you have some kind of hardware enforcing the limit?

For instance, in Spain the smart meter triggers if you draw above your
contract and switches off the whole house. In older times, there was an
electromagnetic current limiter switch, installed with an anti tamper
lead seal, which of course, was tampered with. Which is a reason they
installed smart meters in the whole country real fast.

The typical contract here for a flat is 3.6 KW. I think the max is
around 15 or 18.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

 

[Martin Brown]

On 16/04/2023 18:18, Colin Bignell wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other
words half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF?  A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Although that may be true the master fuse is typically one of 60A, 80A
or most recently 100A depending on the age of the property or whether
the master fusing has been upgraded to cope with an electric car.

My domestic mains is 60A or ~14kW. Some neighbours are on 40A ~10kW.
Three phase is not available in my village.

You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in fact three if you\'re not using
much power for anything else.  Why are people so stupid?  7 x 2 = 14,
well under 24.  7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

It may amuse some to know that my MP who is also now our UK PM and
incredibly rich had to have the local electricity network upgraded to
power his swimming pool which will cost £13k/year to heat.

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20612012.rishi-sunaks-huge-swimming-pool-north-yorkshire-pictured/

Ironic in a country where public swimming pools are shutting down
because they simply cannot afford the heating costs!

--
Martin Brown

 

[Colin Bignell]

On 16/04/2023 20:02, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2023-04-16 20:44, Colin Bignell wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF?  A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks.  240V, 100A.  Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you
can draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract
with the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Do you have some kind of hardware enforcing the limit?

I didn\'t work in the Commercial section, which was responsible for the
meter and company fuses, so I don\'t know whether there was a limiter. As
the standing charges were based upon the contracted supply, I assume
there must have been some way to enforce it.

For instance, in Spain the smart meter triggers if you draw above your
contract and switches off the whole house. In older times, there was an
electromagnetic current limiter switch, installed with an anti tamper
lead seal, which of course, was tampered with. Which is a reason they
installed smart meters in the whole country real fast.

In theory, the meter reader was supposed to check the lead seals on
every visit, but it wasn\'t often done in practice unless the property
was flagged as needing particular attention.

The typical contract here for a flat is 3.6 KW. I think the max is
around 15 or 18.

--
Colin Bignell

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:06:57 +0100, Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co..uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 18:18, Colin Bignell wrote:
On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other
words half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Although that may be true the master fuse is typically one of 60A, 80A
or most recently 100A depending on the age of the property or whether
the master fusing has been upgraded to cope with an electric car.

Upgrading the fuse, ROTFPMSL! It\'s the wires which count. The fuse is whatever you put in it.

My domestic mains is 60A or ~14kW. Some neighbours are on 40A ~10kW.
Three phase is not available in my village.

How thick is the incoming wire?

You can easily run two 7kW chargers, in fact three if you\'re not using
much power for anything else. Why are people so stupid? 7 x 2 = 14,
well under 24. 7 x 3 = 21, just under 24.

It may amuse some to know that my MP who is also now our UK PM

He\'s a fucking Paki.

and incredibly rich had to have the local electricity network upgraded to
power his swimming pool which will cost £13k/year to heat.

Hasn\'t he heard of insulation?

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/20612012.rishi-sunaks-huge-swimming-pool-north-yorkshire-pictured/

Ironic in a country where public swimming pools are shutting down
because they simply cannot afford the heating costs!

Why not just run them colder?

If I owned a public swimming baths, I\'d divide it up. You pay more for the warmer sections. And you get in free if you\'re naked.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:02:27 +0100, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-04-16 20:44, Colin Bignell wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks. 240V, 100A. Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Do you have some kind of hardware enforcing the limit?

For instance, in Spain the smart meter triggers if you draw above your
contract and switches off the whole house. In older times, there was an
electromagnetic current limiter switch, installed with an anti tamper
lead seal, which of course, was tampered with. Which is a reason they
installed smart meters in the whole country real fast.

The typical contract here for a flat is 3.6 KW. I think the max is
around 15 or 18.

Just how do you plan to charge an electric car?

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:02:27 +0100, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

On 2023-04-16 20:44, Colin Bignell wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks. 240V, 100A. Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Do you have some kind of hardware enforcing the limit?

For instance, in Spain the smart meter triggers if you draw above your
contract and switches off the whole house. In older times, there was an
electromagnetic current limiter switch, installed with an anti tamper
lead seal, which of course, was tampered with. Which is a reason they
installed smart meters in the whole country real fast.

The typical contract here for a flat is 3.6 KW. I think the max is
around 15 or 18.

3.6kW ROTFPMSL! In the UK a kettle takes almost that. I wasn\'t aware you lived in the third world.

I take it you have cold showers.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 19:44:30 +0100, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis..me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks. 240V, 100A. Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you can
draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract with
the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Change the breaker then (actually it\'s a Henley fuse). The only limit is the thickness of the wire coming into your house. There is nothing in any contract saying please don\'t use more than x amps.

And two 7s still fit in 17.

Not with a great deal to spare for other uses.

Then don\'t use those when you need to charge two cars.

 

[Commander Kinsey]

On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 20:32:36 +0100, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellremovethis..me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 20:02, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2023-04-16 20:44, Colin Bignell wrote:
On 16/04/2023 19:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 18:18:20 +0100, Colin Bignell
cpb@bignellremovethis.me.uk> wrote:

On 16/04/2023 08:34, Commander Kinsey wrote:
https://www.smarthomecharge.co.uk/features/do-you-need-two-home-charge-points-if-you-have-two-evs/

\"Some products will have the ability to “load share”, which means they
will communicate with each if two vehicles are plugged in. In this
scenario, they will evenly split the power available so both cars
charge
at the same rate, but this will be at around 3-3.6kW – in other words
half of the available 7.4kW from the supply.\"

WTF? A UK home supply is 24kW.

The most common UK domestic contract is for a 17kVA supply.

Bollocks. 240V, 100A. Never seen anything else.

There are also 80A and 60A main breakers, but the limit to what you
can draw is not what the circuit is rated for, but what your contract
with the electricity supply company specifies you can have.

Do you have some kind of hardware enforcing the limit?

I didn\'t work in the Commercial section, which was responsible for the
meter and company fuses, so I don\'t know whether there was a limiter. As
the standing charges were based upon the contracted supply, I assume
there must have been some way to enforce it.

There isn\'t. The meters only monitor how much you\'ve used, not how fast you were using it.

They want you to use more, so they make more money!

For instance, in Spain the smart meter triggers if you draw above your
contract and switches off the whole house. In older times, there was an
electromagnetic current limiter switch, installed with an anti tamper
lead seal, which of course, was tampered with. Which is a reason they
installed smart meters in the whole country real fast.

In theory, the meter reader was supposed to check the lead seals on
every visit, but it wasn\'t often done in practice unless the property
was flagged as needing particular attention.

You can buy lead seals on Ebay.

The typical contract here for a flat is 3.6 KW. I think the max is
around 15 or 18.