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[Clifford Heath]

On 4/4/21 2:05 pm, keithr0 wrote:

On 3/04/2021 8:08 pm, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 3/4/21 4:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 2/04/2021 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 1/04/2021 6:00 pm, Colin Horsley wrote:
On 27/03/2021 6:14 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:



**I visited Tidbinbilla in 2019. The dish is fucking big.


I visited Jodrell Bank in the 70s, that is BIG,  250 ft (76 m)


**That is big.

DSS43 at Tidbinbilla is only fractionally smaller at 70 metres, the
Lovell telescope at Joderell Bank looks a lot bigger because of its
different mount and because it is a Newtonian rather than Cassegrain
focus.

...which also radically limits the size of the equipment that can be
operated right out there at the focus, compared to DSS43.

CH

Are you an old trackie? If so which station(s) did you work at? I did
the full trifecta MSFN at Carnarvon, DSN at DSS41 Island Lagoon, and
STADAN at Orrorral Valley.

Not me, but I used to work with one from the 1980\'s on and met quite a
few others, and studied the 1969 tracking system in 2019 to give a
lecture on it - following on from my longstanding interest in radio
direction finding.

STADAN was an impressive bit of kit. Do you have any sweet stories to tell?

CH

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 4/04/2021 2:05 pm, keithr0 wrote:

On 3/04/2021 8:08 pm, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 3/4/21 4:02 pm, keithr0 wrote:
On 2/04/2021 5:45 am, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 1/04/2021 6:00 pm, Colin Horsley wrote:
On 27/03/2021 6:14 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:



**I visited Tidbinbilla in 2019. The dish is fucking big.


I visited Jodrell Bank in the 70s, that is BIG,  250 ft (76 m)


**That is big.

DSS43 at Tidbinbilla is only fractionally smaller at 70 metres, the
Lovell telescope at Joderell Bank looks a lot bigger because of its
different mount and because it is a Newtonian rather than Cassegrain
focus.

...which also radically limits the size of the equipment that can be
operated right out there at the focus, compared to DSS43.

CH

Are you an old trackie? If so which station(s) did you work at? I did
the full trifecta MSFN at Carnarvon, DSN at DSS41 Island Lagoon, and
STADAN at Orrorral Valley.

**I was stationed at Ceduna for a few weeks as a trainee (OTC) back in
the 1970s. Not the same thing, but still a decent sized dish for
satellites. Helium cooled amplifiers, if I recall correctly. That was
not the best thing about Ceduna though. The best thing was West End
Bitter. There were little frozen bits of beer in the jug as it was
poured from the tap.

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[Phil Allison]

Clifford Heath wrote:
================

** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

> Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.




....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

Clifford Heath wrote:
================

** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

> Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.




....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

Clifford Heath wrote:
================

** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

> Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.




....... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

Clifford Heath wrote:
================

** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

> Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.




....... Phil

 

[keithr0]

On 26/03/2021 9:07 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Clifford Heath wrote:
================


** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil, many in NASA didn\'t even want it because some of the
telemetry had to be dropped to get the bandwidth for the video. The
video was just publicity and entertainment in order to justify the money
spent to the unwashed masses.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO, coming from you that\'s rich.

 

[keithr0]

On 26/03/2021 9:07 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Clifford Heath wrote:
================


** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil, many in NASA didn\'t even want it because some of the
telemetry had to be dropped to get the bandwidth for the video. The
video was just publicity and entertainment in order to justify the money
spent to the unwashed masses.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO, coming from you that\'s rich.

 

[keithr0]

On 26/03/2021 9:07 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Clifford Heath wrote:
================


** The CSIRO are not in the habit of lying.

But bullshitters like you are !!.

Shame about all the stuff you clipped from my post.

** All stupid & worthless.

Video was *never* critical to any Apollo mission,

** Not what was said - you lying imbecile.

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil, many in NASA didn\'t even want it because some of the
telemetry had to be dropped to get the bandwidth for the video. The
video was just publicity and entertainment in order to justify the money
spent to the unwashed masses.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO, coming from you that\'s rich.

 

[Phil Allison]

keithr0 cannot make sense if he tried:
---------------------------------------------

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil,

** ROTFLMAO wot a retarded moron !!!

The whole thing was a done for it\'s political & world wide PR value.
NASA staff did what they were *paid* to do.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO,

** Still no sign of one...

 

[Phil Allison]

keithr0 cannot make sense if he tried:
---------------------------------------------

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil,

** ROTFLMAO wot a retarded moron !!!

The whole thing was a done for it\'s political & world wide PR value.
NASA staff did what they were *paid* to do.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO,

** Still no sign of one...

 

[Phil Allison]

keithr0 cannot make sense if he tried:
---------------------------------------------

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil,

** ROTFLMAO wot a retarded moron !!!

The whole thing was a done for it\'s political & world wide PR value.
NASA staff did what they were *paid* to do.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO,

** Still no sign of one...

 

[Phil Allison]

keithr0 cannot make sense if he tried:
---------------------------------------------

FYI:

Aside form the astronauts coming back alive,
the CRITICAL part of the first *man on the moon* event was the fucking VIDEO.

Booooooolshit phil,

** ROTFLMAO wot a retarded moron !!!

The whole thing was a done for it\'s political & world wide PR value.
NASA staff did what they were *paid* to do.

YOU have to be ten times *dumber* than a pile of month old dog shit NOT to appreciate that fact.

Leeme tell ya something:

IF you ever had an even slightly intelligent though -
it would die of loneliness.

LMAO,

** Still no sign of one...

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 26/03/2021 6:11 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Isn\'t Parkes still used for Voyager 1 and/or 2 comms??

\"Although designed and operated as a radio telescope for
astronomical observations Parkes has also been used for tracking
and receiving data from many space probes.

Played a leading role in the reception of the first video footage
on the first Moon walk (Achievement) by the crew of Apollo 11 in
1969 featured in the fictional film \"The Dish\" (see also
Parkes radio telescope and the Apollo 11 moon landing).

In 1979 NASA launched Apollo 13 its third mission to the moon.
Two days into the flight (320?000 kilometres from Earth) an
explosion on board destroyed the spacecraft\'s normal supply of
electricity, light and water. The crew of James Lovell, John
Swigert and Fred Haise were forced to abandon the command module
and crawl into the lunar module. The problem was that the lunar
module only had enough power for 45 hours operation while the
return trip to Earth would take at least 90 hours. The Parkes
telescope, under John Bolton\'s guidance, was central to securing
communications between Houston and the Apollo 13 spacecraft and the
successful return of the crew.

The Galileo probe to Jupiter, the Voyager exploration to Neptune
and Uranus, the Giotto project to examine Halley\'s comet and the
various Mars missions in early 2004.

In January 2005 it was a key element in a global linkup of 17 radio
telescopes observing the descent of the Huygens probe through the
atmosphere of Titan.\"
https://csiropedia.csiro.au/parkes-radio-telescope-construction/

Apparantly now even it\'s too small to pick up signals from the
Voyager probes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_radio_telescope#Historical_non-astronomy_research

The 70m Tidbinbilla dish they they\'re currently using for Voyager
was itself built back in 1973:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidbinbilla_Tracking_Station#Antennas

**I visited Tidbinbilla in 2019. The dish is fucking big.

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[Trevor Wilson]

On 26/03/2021 6:11 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Isn\'t Parkes still used for Voyager 1 and/or 2 comms??

\"Although designed and operated as a radio telescope for
astronomical observations Parkes has also been used for tracking
and receiving data from many space probes.

Played a leading role in the reception of the first video footage
on the first Moon walk (Achievement) by the crew of Apollo 11 in
1969 featured in the fictional film \"The Dish\" (see also
Parkes radio telescope and the Apollo 11 moon landing).

In 1979 NASA launched Apollo 13 its third mission to the moon.
Two days into the flight (320?000 kilometres from Earth) an
explosion on board destroyed the spacecraft\'s normal supply of
electricity, light and water. The crew of James Lovell, John
Swigert and Fred Haise were forced to abandon the command module
and crawl into the lunar module. The problem was that the lunar
module only had enough power for 45 hours operation while the
return trip to Earth would take at least 90 hours. The Parkes
telescope, under John Bolton\'s guidance, was central to securing
communications between Houston and the Apollo 13 spacecraft and the
successful return of the crew.

The Galileo probe to Jupiter, the Voyager exploration to Neptune
and Uranus, the Giotto project to examine Halley\'s comet and the
various Mars missions in early 2004.

In January 2005 it was a key element in a global linkup of 17 radio
telescopes observing the descent of the Huygens probe through the
atmosphere of Titan.\"
https://csiropedia.csiro.au/parkes-radio-telescope-construction/

Apparantly now even it\'s too small to pick up signals from the
Voyager probes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_radio_telescope#Historical_non-astronomy_research

The 70m Tidbinbilla dish they they\'re currently using for Voyager
was itself built back in 1973:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidbinbilla_Tracking_Station#Antennas

**I visited Tidbinbilla in 2019. The dish is fucking big.

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[Trevor Wilson]

On 26/03/2021 6:11 pm, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

Isn\'t Parkes still used for Voyager 1 and/or 2 comms??

\"Although designed and operated as a radio telescope for
astronomical observations Parkes has also been used for tracking
and receiving data from many space probes.

Played a leading role in the reception of the first video footage
on the first Moon walk (Achievement) by the crew of Apollo 11 in
1969 featured in the fictional film \"The Dish\" (see also
Parkes radio telescope and the Apollo 11 moon landing).

In 1979 NASA launched Apollo 13 its third mission to the moon.
Two days into the flight (320?000 kilometres from Earth) an
explosion on board destroyed the spacecraft\'s normal supply of
electricity, light and water. The crew of James Lovell, John
Swigert and Fred Haise were forced to abandon the command module
and crawl into the lunar module. The problem was that the lunar
module only had enough power for 45 hours operation while the
return trip to Earth would take at least 90 hours. The Parkes
telescope, under John Bolton\'s guidance, was central to securing
communications between Houston and the Apollo 13 spacecraft and the
successful return of the crew.

The Galileo probe to Jupiter, the Voyager exploration to Neptune
and Uranus, the Giotto project to examine Halley\'s comet and the
various Mars missions in early 2004.

In January 2005 it was a key element in a global linkup of 17 radio
telescopes observing the descent of the Huygens probe through the
atmosphere of Titan.\"
https://csiropedia.csiro.au/parkes-radio-telescope-construction/

Apparantly now even it\'s too small to pick up signals from the
Voyager probes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkes_radio_telescope#Historical_non-astronomy_research

The 70m Tidbinbilla dish they they\'re currently using for Voyager
was itself built back in 1973:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidbinbilla_Tracking_Station#Antennas

**I visited Tidbinbilla in 2019. The dish is fucking big.

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[Trevor Wilson]

On 25/03/2021 7:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Hi,

Trevor Wilson\'s favorite movie is \"The Dish\"
I like it a lot too.

Set in 1969, it\'s an absolute, Aussie classic.

( Only thing maybe better was \" Don\'s Party\" )

**MUCH better. Don\'s Party was one of the best Aussie movies of all time.



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[Trevor Wilson]

On 25/03/2021 7:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Hi,

Trevor Wilson\'s favorite movie is \"The Dish\"
I like it a lot too.

Set in 1969, it\'s an absolute, Aussie classic.

( Only thing maybe better was \" Don\'s Party\" )

**MUCH better. Don\'s Party was one of the best Aussie movies of all time.



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[Trevor Wilson]

On 25/03/2021 7:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Hi,

Trevor Wilson\'s favorite movie is \"The Dish\"
I like it a lot too.

Set in 1969, it\'s an absolute, Aussie classic.

( Only thing maybe better was \" Don\'s Party\" )

**MUCH better. Don\'s Party was one of the best Aussie movies of all time.



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[Trevor Wilson]

On 25/03/2021 7:43 pm, Phil Allison wrote:

Hi,

Trevor Wilson\'s favorite movie is \"The Dish\"
I like it a lot too.

Set in 1969, it\'s an absolute, Aussie classic.

( Only thing maybe better was \" Don\'s Party\" )

**MUCH better. Don\'s Party was one of the best Aussie movies of all time.



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