Nope, No One at the Helm

[Rick C]

Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???

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[dcaster@krl.org]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed.. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???

--

Rick C.

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Blasio Mayor of NYC wanted to shut down non essential services but Cuomo said he could not do that , only Cuomo could do that. And so they did not do anything for about a week. And that is why NY has as many cases as the rest of the country.

Dan

 

Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
news:2LyeG.717208$Zw7.607755@fx34.iad:

On 25/3/20 11:44 am, Rick C wrote:
He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have
53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not
working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to
acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He
seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400
ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump.

They should take possession of Trump Tower and turn it into an
emergency hospital. It's not like anyone else will be staying
there for the foreseeable future.

CH

I LIKE IT! -crazy red head in Robocop.

I'd say "I'd buy that for a dollar!"... but...

Probably full of Asbestos though!

And all his gold he paid a fortune for... they saw him coming. It
is just microinch plated. At least one group got money out of the
bastard.

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 25/3/20 11:44 am, Rick C wrote:

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump.

They should take possession of Trump Tower and turn it into an emergency
hospital. It's not like anyone else will be staying there for the
foreseeable future.

CH

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:47:46 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 25/3/20 11:44 am, Rick C wrote:
He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump.

They should take possession of Trump Tower and turn it into an emergency
hospital. It's not like anyone else will be staying there for the
foreseeable future.

They should take your house, as well.

 

[Winfield Hill]

Andy Bennet wrote...

The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from
China, believe it or not.

Yes, and they were new-in-box. China now has
extra (used) ventilators, and furthermore, they
have offered to help us, but Trump has spurned
(reject with disdain or contempt) their offers,
as he did before from the WHO.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Andy Bennet]

On 25/03/2020 00:44, Rick C wrote:

Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???

The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from China, believe it or not.

 

Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:r5f59a02tvd@drn.newsguy.com:

Andy Bennet wrote...

The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from
China, believe it or not.

Yes, and they were new-in-box. China now has
extra (used) ventilators, and furthermore, they
have offered to help us, but Trump has spurned
(reject with disdain or contempt) their offers,
as he did before from the WHO.

As he did throughout his entire tenure in office as he trashed
everything he could that Obama did.

Donald John Trump is a despicable criminal.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed.. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

It's actually 4000. Cuomo can't do math. While ranting he said, we need
30K, they are sending 400, who is going to tell the 26K they are going to die?

But you're right about using DPA. The feds need to determine the total supply,
the run rate, take control of the supply, allocate it, figure out how to close
the gap. I knew Trump was a lying no good shyster from before he ran.
But even I underestimated his stupidity with something like this. A ten
year old could grasp it.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:09c2d019-1210-4cf3-b235-28745b229e87@googlegroups.com:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:47:46 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath
wrote:
On 25/3/20 11:44 am, Rick C wrote:
He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they
have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are
not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to
acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He
seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending
400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump.

They should take possession of Trump Tower and turn it into an
emergency hospital. It's not like anyone else will be staying
there for the foreseeable future.


They should take your house, as well.

Stupid fuck. IT should take your life.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-03-25 08:41, Whoey Louie wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed.. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.


It's actually 4000. Cuomo can't do math. While ranting he said, we need
30K, they are sending 400, who is going to tell the 26K they are going to die?

But you're right about using DPA. The feds need to determine the total supply,
the run rate, take control of the supply, allocate it, figure out how to close
the gap. I knew Trump was a lying no good shyster from before he ran.
But even I underestimated his stupidity with something like this. A ten
year old could grasp it.

If I were in charge of another state with enough respirators for now, I
would be very reluctant to send them to NYC, because De Blasio would be
most unlikely to let go of them merely because my state needed them.

The NY Post reported that NYC didn't even get round to ordering supplies
until two weeks ago. (Meanwhile DB tried to blame Trump, naturally.) I
have several friends in NYC, and live in Westchester County, but I can
hardly fault more prudent folks for refusing to trust DB with the health
of their people.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 8:22:34 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:r5f59a02tvd@drn.newsguy.com:

Andy Bennet wrote...

The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from
China, believe it or not.

Yes, and they were new-in-box. China now has
extra (used) ventilators, and furthermore, they
have offered to help us, but Trump has spurned
(reject with disdain or contempt) their offers,
as he did before from the WHO.



As he did throughout his entire tenure in office as he trashed
everything he could that Obama did.

Donald John Trump is a despicable criminal.

Now would be a good time for you to remind everyone that you claim to be
a Republican. So, you're part of the problem, you're enabling him.
If just ten percent of Republicans did what I did and left the party,
the GOP would go into shock and have started dealing with the problem.

 

[Whoey Louie]

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 9:21:28 PM UTC-4, dca...@krl.org wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209


Blasio Mayor of NYC wanted to shut down non essential services but Cuomo said he could not do that , only Cuomo could do that. And so they did not do anything for about a week. And that is why NY has as many cases as the rest of the country.

Dan

Correct, de Blasio wanted to issue a shelter in place order for NYC and
Cuome forced him to back off. Cuomo further lied and went on the air implying
de Blasio wanted to quarantine NYC, when he had never used that term.
Some time later, maybe 5 days or so, Cuomo finally had NYC shelter in place..

As to Cuomo, while he's running around trying to look like he's ahead of
the curve, he is the moron that refused to quarantine Westchester when they
had the hotspot there from the lawyer. Instead he allowed them to get on
the 7:05 train to NYC and take it right on in to the city. Now we see the
results. Had we quarantined Westchester and a small part of WA state,
we could have greatly reduced the spread.

 

Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net> wrote in
news:3de122a6-d7b2-495c-b59c-1bff84aa1e6a@googlegroups.com:

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 8:22:34 AM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:r5f59a02tvd@drn.newsguy.com:

Andy Bennet wrote...

The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from
China, believe it or not.

Yes, and they were new-in-box. China now has
extra (used) ventilators, and furthermore, they
have offered to help us, but Trump has spurned
(reject with disdain or contempt) their offers,
as he did before from the WHO.



As he did throughout his entire tenure in office as he trashed
everything he could that Obama did.

Donald John Trump is a despicable criminal.

Now would be a good time for you to remind everyone that you claim
to be a Republican.

Get off it, you retarded fuck!

> So, you're part of the problem,

No. DUMBFUCKS like you are the problem ith the human gene pool.
Give me your address and that of all of your entire bllodline.
Fucktards like you should have your entire bloodline erased.

you're
enabling him.

You're full of shit, and we ALL already knew that. Go away, child.

If just ten percent of Republicans did what I did
and left the party,

You are a TrumpTainted TrumpTarded partisan idiot.

Out of your retarded upper asshole spews forth retarded terms like
"libtard". You, child, are the problem. You, child, should be
erased.

the GOP would go into shock and have started
dealing with the problem.

Go back to your porn site hobby, retard boy.

 

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 05:41:45 -0700 (PDT), Whoey Louie
<trader4@optonline.net> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.


It's actually 4000. Cuomo can't do math. While ranting he said, we need
30K, they are sending 400, who is going to tell the 26K they are going to die?

We have a governor who took the same math courses.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:25:06 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

If I were in charge of another state with enough respirators for now, I
would be very reluctant to send them to NYC, because De Blasio would be
most unlikely to let go of them merely because my state needed them.

No state is going to release anything they may need in a couple of weeks.

I will say I am slightly encouraged by some of the info I've been looking at lately. Most of the country has very few infections. They seem to be concentrated in a few areas of high population density in the US. With the social distancing being practiced we may do as well as China in most of the country.

--

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[Rick C]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 4:28:34 AM UTC-4, Andy Bennet wrote:

On 25/03/2020 00:44, Rick C wrote:
Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.

I guess NY should have voted for Trump. I bet Wisconsin gets the ventilators they need!

I wonder if this has anything to do with exponential growth???


The Tesla ones were imported by Elon Musk from China, believe it or not.

Ah, that answers a lot of questions. I guess they don't need them anymore. I wonder if they are approved for use in this country? I guess Trump has relaxed the regulations... but for Chinese goods? I bet not.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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[mpm]

You know, I'm just not sure which Coronavirus thread to put this in?

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_iBOg5OfBg

 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:25:06 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

On 2020-03-25 08:41, Whoey Louie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 8:44:57 PM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:
Today Gov Cuomo said they have about 4,000 ventilators and have 7,000 more ordered. But they are going to need 30,000 more in the next 3 weeks. GM and Ford aren't going to be able to supply those. In three weeks they will still be in talks. Tesla seems to have delivered 1,000 in California, but I've heard no details.

He also said they will need 140,000 hospital beds while they have 53,000. Clearly efforts to flatten the curve in NY are not working.

NY and other states are begging Trump to use his DPA powers to acquire more equipment but Trump is not doing a damn thing. He seems to be paralyzed.. Well, not nothing. They are sending 400 ventilators from FEMA.


It's actually 4000. Cuomo can't do math. While ranting he said, we need
30K, they are sending 400, who is going to tell the 26K they are going to die?

But you're right about using DPA. The feds need to determine the total supply,
the run rate, take control of the supply, allocate it, figure out how to close
the gap. I knew Trump was a lying no good shyster from before he ran.
But even I underestimated his stupidity with something like this. A ten
year old could grasp it.

If I were in charge of another state with enough respirators for now, I
would be very reluctant to send them to NYC, because De Blasio would be
most unlikely to let go of them merely because my state needed them.

The NY Post reported that NYC didn't even get round to ordering supplies
until two weeks ago. (Meanwhile DB tried to blame Trump, naturally.) I
have several friends in NYC, and live in Westchester County, but I can
hardly fault more prudent folks for refusing to trust DB with the health
of their people.

NYC has been awfully irresponsible.

They had their Chinese Lunar New Year Parade on Feb. 9, 2020, capping
fifteen days of festivities.

But, that was ten days after the administration stopped travel
Jan. 31st, and thirteen days after the U.S. State Dept. issued
travel warnings on Jan. 27th, so ... who knew?

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/nyc-lunar-new-year-parade-showcases-support-for-china-wuhan/2283603/

<quote>A banner on one float read “Support Wuhan! Let's fight the
virus together!"</quote>

Oh dear...

The NYC Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot helpfully tweeted
"I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans
due to misinformation spreading about #coronavirus."

NYC seems to be the center of the U.S. epidemic, and the source
of spread. I blame the president.

Cheers,
James Arthur

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 3:43:35 PM UTC-7, Rick C wrote:

> No state is going to release anything they may need in a couple of weeks.

Similarly, no country is going to..., no county is going to..., no hospital is going to... and no doctor is going to...

Hoarding stockpiles is a potentially very damaging misallocation of resources, and the
wartime powers exist to prevent over-stocking of closets where needed goods gather dust.

According to some news sources, doctors have been using preemptive ordering of
chloroquine (?) which is a potential treatment; that's not gonna end well.