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On 17/03/2020 16:38, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
...
You have to give Trump credit for hanging in there and staying on
top of the situation despite limited comprehension capability and all
kinds of misinformation and bad advice coming from his advisers and
hopelessly inept civil (dis)-service.

Isn't the situation vice versa. Trump mostly never ask for or hear on
external advice and most of the missinformation that he gave had
origin in himself?

Yes indeed.

And the single most important job of a president - totally outweighing
everything else - is to make sure there are competent people giving the
advice and running the various departments, organisations and
governmental bodies. If the advisors are giving bad advice, or the
civil service is not reacting properly, then it is Trump's fault.

He has systematically fired pretty much everyone who could think for
themselves instead of lick his boots, and ignored or contradicted the
advice of anyone left who still had the knowledge and the guts to speak up.

Yes, you have to give Trump credit for that!
 
On 17/03/2020 22:24, Rick C wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 5:06:41 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
On 17/03/2020 16:38, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
...
You have to give Trump credit for hanging in there and staying on
top of the situation despite limited comprehension capability and all
kinds of misinformation and bad advice coming from his advisers and
hopelessly inept civil (dis)-service.

Isn't the situation vice versa. Trump mostly never ask for or hear on
external advice and most of the missinformation that he gave had
origin in himself?


Yes indeed.

And the single most important job of a president - totally outweighing
everything else - is to make sure there are competent people giving the
advice and running the various departments, organisations and
governmental bodies. If the advisors are giving bad advice, or the
civil service is not reacting properly, then it is Trump's fault.

I read an article in Politico that talked about the fact that as part of the transition to a new administration there was a mandatory briefing (or maybe it was more like a training session) where they went through the process of a mock pandemic of N9H1 flu. They talked about "shortages of ventilators, anti-viral drugs and other medical essentials" and other factors that would need to be addressed at a national level.

However today we find, "roughly two-thirds of the Trump representatives in that room are no longer serving in the administration". This is a direct result of the huge turnover in the president's administration. His campaign promise was to get the best people to act as his advisors. He didn't promise he would be updating who he considers "top people" on a regular basis.


He has systematically fired pretty much everyone who could think for
themselves instead of lick his boots, and ignored or contradicted the
advice of anyone left who still had the knowledge and the guts to speak up.

Yes, you have to give Trump credit for that!

"I don't take responsibility at all". We may have to give Trump credit, but he doesn't seem to want it.

I just read that in a recent press conference, he was asked to rate his
administration's handling of the pandemic on a scale from 0 to 10. He
gave himself a 10 - he's taking credit for something!
 
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 3:49:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

> I had to go to town today. Every restaurant and fast food that I passed was closed, except for their drive through if they had one. Way less than half the normal traffic, and Gasoline had dropped below $2.00 a gallon. Schools are all closed, but you don't hear kids playing outdoors. I was told on a Veteran's group that the VA was cancelling all appointments for the time being. I had one scheduled for tomorrow, but I haven't been notified either way.

I spoke with a friend today who lives on the Brittany Coast of France.
Today was his first day of having to comply with a national government-mandated two-week quarantine. He said the Gendarmerie were out enforcing the curfew.

Did not sound like fun.

Gas here in South Florida is also running $1.99 in some places.
Not much of a silver lining though.
Good luck with the V.A. tomorrow.
 
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 9:20:38 PM UTC-4, mpm wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 3:49:10 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:

I had to go to town today. Every restaurant and fast food that I passed was closed, except for their drive through if they had one. Way less than half the normal traffic, and Gasoline had dropped below $2.00 a gallon. Schools are all closed, but you don't hear kids playing outdoors. I was told on a Veteran's group that the VA was cancelling all appointments for the time being. I had one scheduled for tomorrow, but I haven't been notified either way.

I spoke with a friend today who lives on the Brittany Coast of France.
Today was his first day of having to comply with a national government-mandated two-week quarantine. He said the Gendarmerie were out enforcing the curfew.

Did not sound like fun.

Gas here in South Florida is also running $1.99 in some places.
Not much of a silver lining though.
Good luck with the V.A. tomorrow.

Cheaper gasoline will help those who are put out of work to stretch their remaining funds. I doubt that many of the French own guns, to fight back if need be. I should have well over a month's supply of canned goods, so other than that VA appointment I have no reason to leave home for a month. My next appointment is at the ended of June.
 
On 18/3/20 1:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
> I doubt that many of the French own guns, to fight back if need be.

I don't think virus particles are susceptible to bullets, in general.
 
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:13:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 18/3/20 1:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
I doubt that many of the French own guns, to fight back if need be.

I don't think virus particles are susceptible to bullets, in general.

I believe that depends on your aim.

--

Rick C.

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On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:13:19 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 18/3/20 1:19 pm, Michael Terrell wrote:
I doubt that many of the French own guns, to fight back if need be.

I don't think virus particles are susceptible to bullets, in general.

They aren't the target that I'm referring to.
 
On 2020-03-17 16:32, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/03/17 12:42 p.m., Michael Terrell wrote:
On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows.  According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were.  While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size.  Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.


    What else would you expect from a city that gave us Al Capone and
Al Bundy? :)


The clearance issues at Chicago are Federal (Customs & Immigration), not
State level problems.

John

The feds don't run the airports.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 

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