no more than10 people

[Winfield Hill]

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

<https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d>

<https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323>


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[John Robertson]

On 2020/03/16 6:04 p.m., Winfield Hill wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote...

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

TinyURL to the rescue!

https://tinyurl.com/Covid-10People

Or, give your recipients confidence with a preview TinyURL:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/Covid-10People

John

 

[Winfield Hill]

Winfield Hill wrote...

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

<https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

On 16 Mar 2020 17:45:28 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

Now it is hard to organize anti-governement demonstrations.

 

[Clifford Heath]

On 17/3/20 4:29 pm, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:

On 16 Mar 2020 17:45:28 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

Now it is hard to organize anti-governement demonstrations.

Or an election. I wonder if that is the plan, actually.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 4:42:44 PM UTC+11, Clifford Heath wrote:

On 17/3/20 4:29 pm, upsidedown@downunder.com wrote:
On 16 Mar 2020 17:45:28 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com> wrote:
Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-more-than-10-people-132323

Now it is hard to organize anti-government demonstrations.

Or an election. I wonder if that is the plan, actually.

Trump would have had to know quite a bit about how epidemics work to have conceived such a plan. His statements to date do suggest that this is unlikely.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 8:45:43 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323


--
Thanks,
- Win

You have to give Trump credit for hanging in there and staying on top of the situation despite limited comprehension capability and all kinds of misinformation and bad advice coming from his advisers and hopelessly inept civil (dis)-service.
He's doing better than these troublemaking state governors coming up a day late and dollar short on everything. The asymptomatic hypochondriacs are having a field day wasting peoples' time at the mobile testing checkpoints.
LabCorp and Quest, which are nationwide, are already online with their testing. The CDC should have gone with them in the first place instead of their stupid amateur attempt at getting into the test kit manufacturing business.. This would have spurred more business at the local level as well as expedited getting the job done much more effectively. But when you have a bunch of people with zero business and operations experience, the real world doesn't count for much to the CDC idiots.
https://www.labcorp.com/information-labcorp-about-coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19
This means your GP can pull a blood sample in the office and send it in with the rest of his/her daily samples to LabCorp or Quest, and have results nearly the next day.

 

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:04:16 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-16 20:45, Winfield Hill wrote:
Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323



My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

According to a chart in today's paper, C19 doesn't cause sneezing.
Looks like the virus missed that propagation mode.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Uwe Bonnes]

bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
....

You have to give Trump credit for hanging in there and staying on
top of the situation despite limited comprehension capability and all
kinds of misinformation and bad advice coming from his advisers and
hopelessly inept civil (dis)-service.

Isn't the situation vice versa. Trump mostly never ask for or hear on
external advice and most of the missinformation that he gave had
origin in himself?

--
Uwe Bonnes bon@elektron.ikp.physik.tu-darmstadt.de

Institut fuer Kernphysik Schlossgartenstrasse 9 64289 Darmstadt
--------- Tel. 06151 1623569 ------- Fax. 06151 1623305 ---------

 

[Phil Hobbs]

On 2020-03-16 20:45, Winfield Hill wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

 

[Jeroen Belleman]

On 2020-03-17 16:41, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 11:04:16 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 2020-03-16 20:45, Winfield Hill wrote:
Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323



My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

According to a chart in today's paper, C19 doesn't cause sneezing.
Looks like the virus missed that propagation mode.

Coughing will do just as well, thank you for the hitch.

Jeroen Belleman

 

[John Larkin]

On 16 Mar 2020 17:45:28 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

Shut down Congress.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.

What else would you expect from a city that gave us Al Capone and Al Bundy?

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.


What else would you expect from a city that gave us Al Capone and Al Bundy?

Consider what the stock market crash is doing to pension funds!

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
picosecond timing precision measurement

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 3:16:33 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On 16 Mar 2020 17:45:28 -0700, Winfield Hill <winfieldhill@yahoo.com
wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

Shut down Congress.

This is *funny* --
https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/14/this-is-an-emergency/

Cheers,
James

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 8:45:43 PM UTC-4, Winfield Hill wrote:

Sorry, no more airplane flights, shut down now.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2020/03/16/cdc-all-americans-should-
avoid-gathering-in-groups-of-more-than-10-people/#2381b81b283d

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-recommends-avoiding-gatherings-of-
more-than-10-people-132323

I had to go to town today. Every restaurant and fast food that I passed was closed, except for their drive through if they had one. Way less than half the normal traffic, and Gasoline had dropped below $2.00 a gallon. Schools are all closed, but you don't hear kids playing outdoors. I was told on a Veteran's group that the VA was cancelling all appointments for the time being. I had one scheduled for tomorrow, but I haven't been notified either way.

 

[John Robertson]

On 2020/03/17 12:42 p.m., Michael Terrell wrote:

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.


What else would you expect from a city that gave us Al Capone and Al Bundy?

The clearance issues at Chicago are Federal (Customs & Immigration), not
State level problems.

John

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 4:27:35 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 12:42:24 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 11:04:28 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:

My daughter the flight attendant says that domestically the planes are
almost empty--on her flight home yesterday, everybody had their own row,
and there were lots of empty rows. According to her, most of the
passengers were wiping down the arm rests, screens, tables, and so forth
using disinfectant wipes.

Also nowadays the ventilation systems use HEPA filters and recirculate
often, so airplanes aren't nearly as bad for spreading airborne disease
as they once were. While a HEPA might not stop bare virus particles, in
real life viruses get expelled in sputum and saliva, which are at least
0.5% solids and a few tens of microns in size. Thus even if they dry
down to perfect spheres, the particles will still be several microns in
diameter, which for a HEPA might as well be a boulder.

That mess in the customs house at O'Hare is another matter.


What else would you expect from a city that gave us Al Capone and Al Bundy?

Consider what the stock market crash is doing to pension funds!

Just think of the money to be made during the recovery! Lots of people make good money in the real estate recovery.

Heck, maybe this was intentional on the part of the Chinese so they could manipulate the markets!

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 1:27:35 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

> Consider what the stock market crash is doing to pension funds!

Pension funds might buy stocks more cheaply, and keep receiving dividends.
A crash won't hurt them, unless the dividends go down as well.
Why would one assume that a market fluctuation would hurt a pension?

 

[Rick C]

On Tuesday, March 17, 2020 at 5:06:41 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:

On 17/03/2020 16:38, Uwe Bonnes wrote:
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:
...
You have to give Trump credit for hanging in there and staying on
top of the situation despite limited comprehension capability and all
kinds of misinformation and bad advice coming from his advisers and
hopelessly inept civil (dis)-service.

Isn't the situation vice versa. Trump mostly never ask for or hear on
external advice and most of the missinformation that he gave had
origin in himself?


Yes indeed.

And the single most important job of a president - totally outweighing
everything else - is to make sure there are competent people giving the
advice and running the various departments, organisations and
governmental bodies. If the advisors are giving bad advice, or the
civil service is not reacting properly, then it is Trump's fault.

I read an article in Politico that talked about the fact that as part of the transition to a new administration there was a mandatory briefing (or maybe it was more like a training session) where they went through the process of a mock pandemic of N9H1 flu. They talked about "shortages of ventilators, anti-viral drugs and other medical essentials" and other factors that would need to be addressed at a national level.

However today we find, "roughly two-thirds of the Trump representatives in that room are no longer serving in the administration". This is a direct result of the huge turnover in the president's administration. His campaign promise was to get the best people to act as his advisors. He didn't promise he would be updating who he considers "top people" on a regular basis.

He has systematically fired pretty much everyone who could think for
themselves instead of lick his boots, and ignored or contradicted the
advice of anyone left who still had the knowledge and the guts to speak up.

Yes, you have to give Trump credit for that!

"I don't take responsibility at all". We may have to give Trump credit, but he doesn't seem to want it.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209