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Flyguy
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:48:21 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
You could have fooled me...
You could have fooled me...
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Flyguy
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 6:49:53 AM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 12:40:34 AM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d554fe98-0b9b-43af-ac4f-30be195475f1@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the
Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jer
sey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme
Court.
The problem I have is with being arrested. Your potential to
actually contract the virus infection goes up to 99.9%
Yeah, but I think actual arrests for this are very rare. Bottom line is I'm sure they give you the option of dispersing and avoiding arrest. If you want to stand up for your rights it is up to you. You can always opt to not be arrested and file in court to challenge the dispersal.
Let's be real about this. While you have every right to stand up for yourself, you need to be practical about it. Your goal should be getting to court, not getting in jail.
You are being
'handled' by folks (piggies) that are around others all day every day
just like store cashiers. AND THEN they stick you in a place full of
'detainees', all of which have an enormously greater chance to be
infected. All done in cop cars that are very likely NOT cleaned.
Yep, I'm sure a police car/jail is the worst place to be in this pandemic other than an emergency room.
I also have a problem with idiots unable to remember their
education. BASIC education. It is a PANDEMIC. Real easy word. It
is STILL HERE.
Don't know what you are complaining about here. Is it spelling or not using the right word?
STAY HOME. WAIT IT OUT till they get 5 minute turn test modules out.
Do not be stupid like the jackass TRUMPing up "could have been"
numbers like 1 or 2 million so his 42 thousand dead fuck up does not
look so bad. He is transparent.
The number of dead are going to be a lot lower than could have been because of the actions we have taken. I would hope intelligent people understand this rather than believe any of the nonsense we have heard.
It is actually painful to think about all the misinformation spread by Trump and how it must have made this crisis so much worse. We really need a leader who can say clearly what we need to do and be consistent about it. It was mind boggling the way he dismissed the pandemic early on and then very abruptly changed his tune in a couple of days once someone got across to him that thousands were going to die and he could not do anything about it other than help prevent millions from dying. Now he is back to not worrying about how many die.
The reality is that it could have been only hundreds that died, and
no 'peak' to worry about and we would already be starting back up
cautiously. But without testing and ALL the directives Trump
blatantly ignored, here we are at 42k deaths *already* and not peaked
yet. Trump and all the party nit wits dancing to his deadly tune,
all deserve prosecution.
Blaming the testing problems on Trump are a bit weak. Yeah, he was the guy in charge and he may have diminished our ability to cope with this pandemic, but the testing problem was all the CDC from what I've read. They mucked up big time.
One thing Trump has to take all the blame for is being xenophobic about helping others and accepting help from others. When our testing crapped out we could have worked with other countries to adapt their test kits and gotten back on track. Instead we wasted I'm not sure how many weeks when we were unable to get test kits out. That was a crucial failure that will obviously be cited as causing many, many deaths once the post mortem is done.
People say this is not the time to criticize, but I honestly feel it doesn't matter what we do other than observe the restrictions. This has been so bungled that it is hard to make it worse.
I still don't get why our new infection rates are not falling at any reasonable rate. Draw a least squares fit to the new cases data from April 1 until now and the rate is only dropping off at 100 per day out of 30,000. That rate will take how many years to reach zero? Larkin seems to think this is a good rate! It's pissing in the wind. We still need to take tougher action and some states are already taking action to open up activities. Florida decided to make wrestling an "essential" activity. Really? Wrestling???
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How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
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Ricky C
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
It's not about tests, it's about newly infected individuals.
Before we exit the lockdown, we need to get the new infection rate to a point where we can do contact tracing on everyone infected and know that we have every infected individual in the country either in medical care or in quarantine.
That will require a lot of testing. But mostly it will require a level of isolation that exceeds what we are doing now since we largely are not reducing the new infection counts. They are either increasing, level or dropping at a painfully slow rate.
I agree that we can't stay in lockdown forever. But clearly we need to do it a lot better before we can exit or the exponential increasing infection rate will return, no matter what the Larkin denialist says.
For me this lockdown is not about flattening the curve. I was the goddamn disease exterminated! If we only flatten the curve, in a couple of months after exiting lockdown it will ramp up again and what? Do we do this all over again???
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How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
It's not about tests, it's about newly infected individuals.
Before we exit the lockdown, we need to get the new infection rate to a point where we can do contact tracing on everyone infected and know that we have every infected individual in the country either in medical care or in quarantine.
That will require a lot of testing. But mostly it will require a level of isolation that exceeds what we are doing now since we largely are not reducing the new infection counts. They are either increasing, level or dropping at a painfully slow rate.
I agree that we can't stay in lockdown forever. But clearly we need to do it a lot better before we can exit or the exponential increasing infection rate will return, no matter what the Larkin denialist says.
For me this lockdown is not about flattening the curve. I was the goddamn disease exterminated! If we only flatten the curve, in a couple of months after exiting lockdown it will ramp up again and what? Do we do this all over again???
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Ricky C
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On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:36:55 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
What??? You just said there are more infected than we think. How does that mean we need less lock down?
We are so far from needing less lock down it's not funny. The daily new infection numbers are level or increasing across 80% or 90% of the counties in this country. Why on earth would we exit lock down when numbers are not even dropping, much less low?
Who cares how many have BEEN infected??? It is irrelevant at this stage unless you are saying it is so high that the general population mostly has immunity. With less than a million confirmed infections it seems a stretch that there could be 100 million infected that we can't detect... unless they weren't infecting anyone which means we don't care!
Sorry, testing is an important part of finding those infected, but it doesn't become a game changer until we have the new infection rates down to much, much lower levels by enforcing isolation.
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:24:44 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
It's not about tests, it's about newly infected individuals.
Before we exit the lockdown, we need to get the new infection rate to a point where we can do contact tracing on everyone infected and know that we have every infected individual in the country either in medical care or in quarantine.
That will require a lot of testing. But mostly it will require a level of isolation that exceeds what we are doing now since we largely are not reducing the new infection counts. They are either increasing, level or dropping at a painfully slow rate.
I agree that we can't stay in lockdown forever. But clearly we need to do it a lot better before we can exit or the exponential increasing infection rate will return, no matter what the Larkin denialist says.
For me this lockdown is not about flattening the curve. I was the goddamn disease exterminated! If we only flatten the curve, in a couple of months after exiting lockdown it will ramp up again and what? Do we do this all over again???
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Rick C.
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Yes, it IS about tests - the more tests that are performed will reveal more infected individuals. It is well known that there are far more infected than have been confirmed due to limited testing capabilities.
Right now we are locking down more than we need to. As testing expands we will get a better idea of the number that have moderate symptoms and get over it quickly. Dr. Birx's plan of testing first responders will allow us to get a better handle on this.
What??? You just said there are more infected than we think. How does that mean we need less lock down?
We are so far from needing less lock down it's not funny. The daily new infection numbers are level or increasing across 80% or 90% of the counties in this country. Why on earth would we exit lock down when numbers are not even dropping, much less low?
Who cares how many have BEEN infected??? It is irrelevant at this stage unless you are saying it is so high that the general population mostly has immunity. With less than a million confirmed infections it seems a stretch that there could be 100 million infected that we can't detect... unless they weren't infecting anyone which means we don't care!
Sorry, testing is an important part of finding those infected, but it doesn't become a game changer until we have the new infection rates down to much, much lower levels by enforcing isolation.
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whit3rd
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:36:55 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
No, that's BS. We know how fast the clinical (with-symptoms) cases were rising, and the
foreseeable future was untenable. Testing will identify individuals better, but doesn't
change the dynamics that required lockdown.
"Revealing more infected individuals"? The virus doesn't care at all about that revelation,
and if you substitute that for an effective disease combat tactic, you lose.
Yes, it IS about tests - the more tests that are performed will reveal more infected individuals. It is well known that there are far more infected than have been confirmed due to limited testing capabilities.
Right now we are locking down more than we need to.
No, that's BS. We know how fast the clinical (with-symptoms) cases were rising, and the
foreseeable future was untenable. Testing will identify individuals better, but doesn't
change the dynamics that required lockdown.
"Revealing more infected individuals"? The virus doesn't care at all about that revelation,
and if you substitute that for an effective disease combat tactic, you lose.
Guest
Flyshit <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:5f6d4084-9204-4803-91bd-86363ca10e61@googlegroups.com:
Shit has no neurons. You are nothing but shit. Flyshit, in your case.
If you were here in front of me you would be splattered flyshit,
because I eradicate vermin.
news:5f6d4084-9204-4803-91bd-86363ca10e61@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:48:21 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992- 2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human.
You could have fooled me...
Shit has no neurons. You are nothing but shit. Flyshit, in your case.
If you were here in front of me you would be splattered flyshit,
because I eradicate vermin.
Guest
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote in news:r7oe7h$dkp$1@gioia.aioe.org:
You're a fucking retard.
I served in the military, over 40 years ago.
Your brain disappeared.
On 04/21/2020 04:48 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992- 2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human. You are FlyShit.
I served.
Incarcerated? You did disappear for a long while.
You're a fucking retard.
I served in the military, over 40 years ago.
Your brain disappeared.
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:06:52 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
Flyguy is remarkably dim, and does seem to be lot easier to fool than he imagines.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 4:48:21 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992-
2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human.
You could have fooled me...
Flyguy is remarkably dim, and does seem to be lot easier to fool than he imagines.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman
Guest
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 2:36:55 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
This has been claimed. It seems unlikely to be true. The Australian contact results suggest undetected cases are about half as numerous as detected cases.
> Right now we are locking down more than we need to.
Your new case per day number may be declining, but it's not much below the 34,403 new cases per day peak on the 4th April. It is now only down to about 27,000 new cases per day. You need to lock down harder, rather than relax..
> As testing expands we will get a better idea of the number that have moderate symptoms and get over it quickly. Dr. Birx's plan of testing first responders will allow us to get a better handle on this.
You have less tests per million inhabitants than the Russians, and half what most advanced industrial countries are managing. You are getting 19.3% positive results which is way too high - if you are getting more than 5% positive results you aren't testing enough.
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:24:44 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
It's not about tests, it's about newly infected individuals.
Before we exit the lockdown, we need to get the new infection rate to a point where we can do contact tracing on everyone infected and know that we have every infected individual in the country either in medical care or in quarantine.
That will require a lot of testing. But mostly it will require a level of isolation that exceeds what we are doing now since we largely are not reducing the new infection counts. They are either increasing, level or dropping at a painfully slow rate.
I agree that we can't stay in lockdown forever. But clearly we need to do it a lot better before we can exit or the exponential increasing infection rate will return, no matter what the Larkin denialist says.
For me this lockdown is not about flattening the curve. I was the goddamn disease exterminated! If we only flatten the curve, in a couple of months after exiting lockdown it will ramp up again and what? Do we do this all over again???
--
Rick C.
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Yes, it IS about tests - the more tests that are performed will reveal more infected individuals. It is well known that there are far more infected than have been confirmed due to limited testing capabilities.
This has been claimed. It seems unlikely to be true. The Australian contact results suggest undetected cases are about half as numerous as detected cases.
> Right now we are locking down more than we need to.
Your new case per day number may be declining, but it's not much below the 34,403 new cases per day peak on the 4th April. It is now only down to about 27,000 new cases per day. You need to lock down harder, rather than relax..
> As testing expands we will get a better idea of the number that have moderate symptoms and get over it quickly. Dr. Birx's plan of testing first responders will allow us to get a better handle on this.
You have less tests per million inhabitants than the Russians, and half what most advanced industrial countries are managing. You are getting 19.3% positive results which is way too high - if you are getting more than 5% positive results you aren't testing enough.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:00:50 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
It sounds like he has been arrested quite often.
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
It sounds like he has been arrested quite often.
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
Amen! Unfortunately there are a lot of people who claimed to have served, yet they degrade the US Military by their actions. Some are exposed for Stolen Valor while others are able to keep lying about serving.
For those who have served or are currently serving, you may want to join https://www.rallypoint.com/
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:57:37 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
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Rick C.
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Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
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Rick C.
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Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
Those God given rights require people to do more than bitch on the internet to assert them. many years ago those God-given rights were fought for by men with real bloodshed
Amen! Unfortunately there are a lot of people who claimed to have served, yet they degrade the US Military by their actions. Some are exposed for Stolen Valor while others are able to keep lying about serving.
For those who have served or are currently serving, you may want to join https://www.rallypoint.com/
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:52:29 PM UTC-4, Ricky C wrote:
Saving you isn't even worth getting a hangnail.
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:57:37 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court..
--
Rick C.
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Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me..
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing..
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
Those God given rights require people to do more than bitch on the internet to assert them. many years ago those God-given rights were fought for by men with real bloodshed
Please go ahead and shed your blood so someone can get a haircut during a pandemic where thousands are dying. I want to see someone's blood shed. Yes, get your name on a monument in front of the courthouse for dying in the great haircut protest of 2020.
Any volunteers? Who's a patriot?!
Saving you isn't even worth getting a hangnail.
Guest
Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in news:bfb71619-
4487-4260-9e5a-6fe5b907d7e9@googlegroups.com:
Looks DECIDEDLY like Terrell is doing his usual, uninformed upper
anus spew into the group again.
This PUSSY TERRELL FAMILY FUCKTARD loves spouting little jabs like
this stupid shit after someone else's post, but is too much of a
PUSSY FUCKTARD to ooze his stench to me directly.
You stink, Terrell. You sully the image of retired veterans
everywhere with the stupid shit you spew in here alone.
I would tell you to eat shit and die, but you ARE shit, Terrell.
So, DIE already, TrumpTardŠ ! Go down to the beach and CONTRACT.
I hope it hurts too.
Bwuahahahaha! Pussy motherfucker.
4487-4260-9e5a-6fe5b907d7e9@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:00:50 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
It sounds like he has been arrested quite often.
Looks DECIDEDLY like Terrell is doing his usual, uninformed upper
anus spew into the group again.
This PUSSY TERRELL FAMILY FUCKTARD loves spouting little jabs like
this stupid shit after someone else's post, but is too much of a
PUSSY FUCKTARD to ooze his stench to me directly.
You stink, Terrell. You sully the image of retired veterans
everywhere with the stupid shit you spew in here alone.
I would tell you to eat shit and die, but you ARE shit, Terrell.
So, DIE already, TrumpTardŠ ! Go down to the beach and CONTRACT.
I hope it hurts too.
Bwuahahahaha! Pussy motherfucker.
R
Ricky C
Guest
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 3:15:32 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
Look, nice of you to consider volunteering, but you need to have hair before you can complain about not getting haircuts.
Nexxxxt!
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On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:52:29 PM UTC-4, Ricky C wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:57:37 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
Those God given rights require people to do more than bitch on the internet to assert them. many years ago those God-given rights were fought for by men with real bloodshed
Please go ahead and shed your blood so someone can get a haircut during a pandemic where thousands are dying. I want to see someone's blood shed. Yes, get your name on a monument in front of the courthouse for dying in the great haircut protest of 2020.
Any volunteers? Who's a patriot?!
Saving you isn't even worth getting a hangnail.
Look, nice of you to consider volunteering, but you need to have hair before you can complain about not getting haircuts.
Nexxxxt!
--
Rick C.
--+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
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Michael Terrell <terrell.michael.a@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a42291e6-da0b-4ce3-9652-7fe0cc68feab@googlegroups.com:
Fuck you, Terrell, you E-1 grade piece of shit.
A three member panel, or a single judge.
Show us where I have been "clueless about the US Military", you
pathetic 4-F piece of shit. You cannot.
news:a42291e6-da0b-4ce3-9652-7fe0cc68feab@googlegroups.com:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:31:15 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:59:32 PM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bullshit. Every military service member takes an oath and
signs a
contract in which they fall under the UCMJ, NOT the US
Constitution.
The UCMJ confers the same right to jury of peers, and my peers
all took an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.
So, "Bullshit" is an appropriate title line for that tirade.
I agree. He has claimed to have served, but he is clueless
about the US Military.
Fuck you, Terrell, you E-1 grade piece of shit.
A three member panel, or a single judge.
Show us where I have been "clueless about the US Military", you
pathetic 4-F piece of shit. You cannot.
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:31:15 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
I agree. He has claimed to have served, but he is clueless about the US Military.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:59:32 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bullshit. Every military service member takes an oath and signs a
contract in which they fall under the UCMJ, NOT the US Constitution.
The UCMJ confers the same right to jury of peers, and my peers all took
an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.
So, "Bullshit" is an appropriate title line for that tirade.
I agree. He has claimed to have served, but he is clueless about the US Military.
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Michael Terrell
Guest
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 3:28:57 PM UTC-4, Ricky C wrote:
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 3:15:32 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:52:29 PM UTC-4, Ricky C wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:07:52 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:57:37 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
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Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
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Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
Those God given rights require people to do more than bitch on the internet to assert them. many years ago those God-given rights were fought for by men with real bloodshed
Please go ahead and shed your blood so someone can get a haircut during a pandemic where thousands are dying. I want to see someone's blood shed. Yes, get your name on a monument in front of the courthouse for dying in the great haircut protest of 2020.
Any volunteers? Who's a patriot?!
Saving you isn't even worth getting a hangnail.
Look, nice of you to consider volunteering, but you need to have hair before you can complain about not getting haircuts.
Nexxxxt!
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
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Flyguy
Guest
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:18:46 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Sounds like Agent Orange disintegrated your brain...
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote in news:r7oe7h$dkp$1@gioia.aioe.org:
On 04/21/2020 04:48 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992- 2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human. You are FlyShit.
I served.
Incarcerated? You did disappear for a long while.
You're a fucking retard.
I served in the military, over 40 years ago.
Your brain disappeared.
Sounds like Agent Orange disintegrated your brain...
Guest
Flyshit <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9382733e-b2d8-4f7a-8618-2929635a14b0@googlegroups.com:
You are so fucking stupid, you cannot even perform the most basic
math, flyshit. You are shit for brains.
news:9382733e-b2d8-4f7a-8618-2929635a14b0@googlegroups.com:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:18:46 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote in
news:r7oe7h$dkp$1@gioia.aioe.org:
On 04/21/2020 04:48 AM,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992- 2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond
HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human. You are FlyShit.
I served.
Incarcerated? You did disappear for a long while.
You're a fucking retard.
I served in the military, over 40 years ago.
Your brain disappeared.
Sounds like Agent Orange disintegrated your brain...
You are so fucking stupid, you cannot even perform the most basic
math, flyshit. You are shit for brains.
B
Bill Sloman
Guest
On Thursday, April 23, 2020 at 9:53:51 PM UTC+10, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
There's no need to be that rude about shit. It's not an attractive material, but when it's in your guts the numerous bacteria who usually live in it synthesise a lot of the B-vitamins you need.
From time to time doctors prescribe antibiotics which kill off some of those bugs, and you can get nasty vitamin deficiencies.
It happened to my aunt, but my uncle who was originally trained as vet (though he ended up with a D.Sc.) - understood what was going on and fed her enough B-vitamins to get her back into good health.
Flyguy's brain doesn't do anything remotely that useful.
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Bill Sloman, sydney
Flyshit <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9382733e-b2d8-4f7a-8618-2929635a14b0@googlegroups.com:
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 5:18:46 AM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org> wrote in
news:r7oe7h$dkp$1@gioia.aioe.org:
On 04/21/2020 04:48 AM,
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992- 2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond
HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human. You are FlyShit.
I served.
Incarcerated? You did disappear for a long while.
You're a fucking retard.
I served in the military, over 40 years ago.
Your brain disappeared.
Sounds like Agent Orange disintegrated your brain...
You are so fucking stupid, you cannot even perform the most basic
math, flyshit. You are shit for brains.
There's no need to be that rude about shit. It's not an attractive material, but when it's in your guts the numerous bacteria who usually live in it synthesise a lot of the B-vitamins you need.
From time to time doctors prescribe antibiotics which kill off some of those bugs, and you can get nasty vitamin deficiencies.
It happened to my aunt, but my uncle who was originally trained as vet (though he ended up with a D.Sc.) - understood what was going on and fed her enough B-vitamins to get her back into good health.
Flyguy's brain doesn't do anything remotely that useful.
--
Bill Sloman, sydney