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The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
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On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
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Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the
Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jer
sey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme
Court.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate
the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-j
ersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the
Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision
in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW
it to me.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:56438dda-7af7-4970-8cb1-f5041a3aa29e@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate
the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-j
ersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the
Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision
in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW
it to me.
Bullshit. Every military service member takes an oath and signs a
contract in which they fall under the UCMJ, NOT the US Constitution.
The moment they finish the oath. Just like Trump.
Every Federal employee as well. As far as I am concerned ANY
public service official that gets the seat they hold by way of taking
an oath, is bound by the oath ONLY. And have limited 'same rights' as
in the constitution, but not all of them.
For regular citizens IF there is ever "martial law" declared, or
whatever provisions fall under the act Trump just enacted, you will
also give those rights up. Watch out for heavy enablings of state
national guard groups that are not putting up testing facilities, but
'policing'. There should already be federal level testing facilities
sprinkled all over all of the hottest zones. We have hundreds of
inflatable hospitals. Trump FAILED. But I would not put past him
sending out the troops for the wrong reasons.
In California, the rotten bastards force folks out on bail or on
'probation' to give up their rights and be subject to search of their
person at any time, and their abode, and must "reveal" to law
enforcement upon 'contact' that they are under 4th amendment
suspension. And then the cop grapples you up, cuffs you and starts
in with the unconstitutional pig harassment.
Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d554fe98-0b9b-43af-ac4f-30be195475f1@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the
Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jer
sey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme
Court.
The problem I have is with being arrested. Your potential to
actually contract the virus infection goes up to 99.9% You are being
'handled' by folks (piggies) that are around others all day every day
just like store cashiers. AND THEN they stick you in a place full of
'detainees', all of which have an enormously greater chance to be
infected. All done in cop cars that are very likely NOT cleaned.
I also have a problem with idiots unable to remember their
education. BASIC education. It is a PANDEMIC. Real easy word. It
is STILL HERE.
STAY HOME. WAIT IT OUT till they get 5 minute turn test modules out.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights..
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
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Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Ricky C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:d554fe98-0b9b-43af-ac4f-30be195475f1@googlegroups.com:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the
Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jer
sey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional
rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the
order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme
Court.
The problem I have is with being arrested. Your potential to
actually contract the virus infection goes up to 99.9%
You are being
'handled' by folks (piggies) that are around others all day every day
just like store cashiers. AND THEN they stick you in a place full of
'detainees', all of which have an enormously greater chance to be
infected. All done in cop cars that are very likely NOT cleaned.
I also have a problem with idiots unable to remember their
education. BASIC education. It is a PANDEMIC. Real easy word. It
is STILL HERE.
STAY HOME. WAIT IT OUT till they get 5 minute turn test modules out.
Do not be stupid like the jackass TRUMPing up "could have been"
numbers like 1 or 2 million so his 42 thousand dead fuck up does not
look so bad. He is transparent.
The reality is that it could have been only hundreds that died, and
no 'peak' to worry about and we would already be starting back up
cautiously. But without testing and ALL the directives Trump
blatantly ignored, here we are at 42k deaths *already* and not peaked
yet. Trump and all the party nit wits dancing to his deadly tune,
all deserve prosecution.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:57:37 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:54:11 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 11:45:02 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 8:40:28 PM UTC-7, Ricky C wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 10:52:54 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
The Wuhan virus crisis has encouraged bureaucrats to violate the Constitution with impunity:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/20/kim-pagan-new-jersey-woman-charged-for-organizing-/
During emergencies you no longer have your full Constitutional rights.
But the matter will be settled in court. We will find out if the order to "stay at home" is legal. This may make it to the Supreme Court.
--
Rick C.
- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dude,
You ALWAYS have your Constitutional rights - there IS NO provision in the Constitution for its suspension. If you can find it, SHOW it to me.
The Constitution is as the courts interpret it. At the time the courts allowed the imprisonment of how many thousands of US citizens of Japanese decent? The courts allow many things at different times only to find they didn't like it many years later.
Can you own and fire a howitzer? Doesn't the 2nd amendment say you can bear arms? Abraham Lincoln conceded that his unilateral suspension of habeas corpus during the Civil War was constitutionally questionable. But no court told him it was unconstitutional.
So you don't have any Constitutional rights unless the courts give them to you.
We will see what the courts say. Hell, they do all sorts of random things. You can't sue to recover your property under civil forfeiture because the action was against the property, not you. You don't have standing.
Don't argue with me. Talk to the judge.
--
Rick C.
+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
Hey Dolt, just because the courts get it wrong - and they DO - DOESN'T mean you don't have those rights as guaranteed by the Constitution.
Those God given rights require people to do more than bitch on the internet to assert them. many years ago those God-given rights were fought for by men with real bloodshed
Let's be real about this. While you have every right to stand up
for yourself, you need to be practical about it. Your goal should
be getting to court, not getting in jail.
Bullshit. Every military service member takes an oath and signs a
contract in which they fall under the UCMJ, NOT the US Constitution.
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 9:59:32 PM UTC-7,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Bullshit. Every military service member takes an oath and
signs a
contract in which they fall under the UCMJ, NOT the US
Constitution.
The UCMJ confers the same right to jury of peers,
and my peers all
took an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution.
So, "Bullshit" is an appropriate title line for that tirade.
Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:bad8ca80-76e2-4690-8992-
2c42cbaf2fe9@googlegroups.com:
Hey DecayedIntellect, you are so FUCKED UP you are beyond HOPE!
Hey, FlyShit. I am human. You are FlyShit.
I served.
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 12:11:47 AM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
How many tests per day to they have reach before you say they have the problem solved?
It's not about tests, it's about newly infected individuals.
Before we exit the lockdown, we need to get the new infection rate to a point where we can do contact tracing on everyone infected and know that we have every infected individual in the country either in medical care or in quarantine.
That will require a lot of testing. But mostly it will require a level of isolation that exceeds what we are doing now since we largely are not reducing the new infection counts. They are either increasing, level or dropping at a painfully slow rate.
I agree that we can't stay in lockdown forever. But clearly we need to do it a lot better before we can exit or the exponential increasing infection rate will return, no matter what the Larkin denialist says.
For me this lockdown is not about flattening the curve. I was the goddamn disease exterminated! If we only flatten the curve, in a couple of months after exiting lockdown it will ramp up again and what? Do we do this all over again???
--
Rick C.
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