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You've got to catch me first, and I bet your car won't be able toI just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
What has this to do with your lack of knowledge about how vehicles and
roads work in the real world?
What does your question begging have to do with anything on this
thread?
But since fires annually generate far more CO2 than all normal human
activities, if you want to reduce CO2 levels, invest in firemen.
That's exactly what they are trying to do: put out the fires in the
cylinders of your motor vehicle.
---On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill
BretCahill@peoplepc.com> wrote:
I just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
What has this to do with your lack of knowledge about how vehicles and
roads work in the real world?
What does your question begging have to do with anything on this
thread?
But since fires annually generate far more CO2 than all normal human
activities, if you want to reduce CO2 levels, invest in firemen.
That's exactly what they are trying to do: put out the fires in the
cylinders of your motor vehicle.
You've got to catch me first, and I bet your car won't be able to
catch my car.
They'll just tax it at the pump. They don't need to put out all theI just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
What has this to do with your lack of knowledge about how vehicles and
roads work in the real world?
What does your question begging have to do with anything on this
thread?
But since fires annually generate far more CO2 than all normal human
activities, if you want to reduce CO2 levels, invest in firemen.
That's exactly what they are trying to do: put out the fires in the
cylinders of your motor vehicle.
You've got to catch me first, and I bet your car won't be able to
catch my car.
There was an ecoloonie on NPR the other day, analysing the carbonI just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
Bret Cahill
Stop breathing. That will help me meet my quota.
Renewables like food aren't included, or they are only included as far
as the energy required to grow and transport the food.
Peak oil seems to always be off in the future. Recent discoveries inI just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
Bret Cahill
Stop breathing. That will help me meet my quota.
Renewables like food aren't included, or they are only included as far
as the energy required to grow and transport the food.
There was an ecoloonie on NPR the other day, analysing the carbon
footprint of browsing the Internet. He's concerned that clicking on a
site may move disk heads somewhere halfway around the world and cause
some power station to make more CO2. He figured that intensive web
browsing generates about 1.5x the CO2 of the person sitting there
clicking his mouse and breathing.
Think of how much more CO2 that person would generate if they got up
and walked around or (gasp) ran or (even worse) cooked dinner.
They tout all these low power consumption circuits, sleep mode etc.,
as though that's a drop in the bucket.
Maybe high efficiency is good for battery powered devices but if they
think that'll save our fannies from peak oil they are bat crap crazy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/oct/19/oil-prices-rise-supply-warning-report'A report from the non-governmental organisation Global Witness
famous for its exposé of so-called "blood diamonds" pointed to an
impending supply shock that could be so severe that many of the
world's poor countries would simply be shut off from the world of
energy by sky-high prices.
Two years in the preparation, Global Witness's report, Heads in the
Sand, accused governments of ignoring the fact that the world could
soon start to run short of oil. This would lead to huge consequences
in terms of price shocks and much higher levels of violence around the
world than last year's food riots.
"There is a train crash about to happen from an energy point of view.
But politicians everywhere seem to have entirely missed the scale of
the problem," said the report's author, Simon Taylor.
"We are all addicted to oil but if you look at the mathematics of the
problem, they simply don't add up in terms of future supply and
demand."
The report went through the latest figures from the oil industry and
the Paris-based International Energy Agency, which last year
drastically reduced its estimate of the available oil.
The IEA figures showed there could be a gap of 7m barrels a day
between supply and demand by 2015. That represents about 8% of the
expected world demand by then of 91m barrels a day.
The IEA expects production from existing oilfields to fall by 50%
between now and 2020 and warned the world needs to find an additional
64m barrels a day of capacity by 2030 equivalent to six times
current Saudi Arabian production.'
They tout all these low power consumption circuits, sleep mode etc.,I just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
Bret Cahill
Stop breathing. That will help me meet my quota.
Renewables like food aren't included, or they are only included as far
as the energy required to grow and transport the food.
There was an ecoloonie on NPR the other day, analysing the carbon
footprint of browsing the Internet. He's concerned that clicking on a
site may move disk heads somewhere halfway around the world and cause
some power station to make more CO2. He figured that intensive web
browsing generates about 1.5x the CO2 of the person sitting there
clicking his mouse and breathing.
Think of how much more CO2 that person would generate if they got up
and walked around or (gasp) ran or (even worse) cooked dinner.
Actually it was a couple years ago.I just called up GEICO and told them it was in "storage." I only use
it in emergencies.
That goes a long way in explaining why you appear to know little to
nothing about how vehicles and roads work in the real world.
http://www.nature.org/initiatives/climatechange/calculator/
Some German study said everyone on the plant must get down to 2.5 tons/
year.
Bret Cahill
Stop breathing. That will help me meet my quota.
Renewables like food aren't included, or they are only included as far
as the energy required to grow and transport the food.
There was an ecoloonie on NPR the other day, analysing the carbon
footprint of browsing the Internet. He's concerned that clicking on a
site may move disk heads somewhere halfway around the world and cause
some power station to make more CO2. He figured that intensive web
browsing generates about 1.5x the CO2 of the person sitting there
clicking his mouse and breathing.
Think of how much more CO2 that person would generate if they got up
and walked around or (gasp) ran or (even worse) cooked dinner.
They tout all these low power consumption circuits, sleep mode etc.,
as though that's a drop in the bucket.
Maybe high efficiency is good for battery powered devices but if they
think that'll save our fannies from peak oil they are bat crap crazy.
Peak oil seems to always be off in the future.
That'll be the end of the lower Colorado River.Recent discoveries in
recovering oil and gas from shale have hugely multiplied likely
reserves.
The "proven reserves" are giving out much faster than expected wipingAnd new drilling keeps finding more oil.
Better than a Hummer.Good; I just bought a 3.3 liter V6.
Actually, it seems to have been about a year ago (July 2008, 74.82MBD).Maybe high efficiency is good for battery powered devices but if they
think that'll save our fannies from peak oil they are bat crap crazy.
Peak oil seems to always be off in the future.
Er, no. If anything, those discoveries are below what has been assumed byRecent discoveries in recovering oil and gas from shale have hugely
multiplied likely reserves.
"Peak oil" doesn't mean "no more oil". It means that productionAnd new drilling keeps finding more oil.
Look forward to paying $10/gallon within the vehicle's lifetime.Good; I just bought a 3.3 liter V6.
The rotten economy reduced demand. It's returning, and prices areOn Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:10:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
Maybe high efficiency is good for battery powered devices but if they
think that'll save our fannies from peak oil they are bat crap crazy.
Peak oil seems to always be off in the future.
Actually, it seems to have been about a year ago (July 2008, 74.82MBD).
Unless oil prices skyrocket, that may well turn out to be the all-time
peak.
Production costs have been on an upward trend for decades, and willRecent discoveries in recovering oil and gas from shale have hugely
multiplied likely reserves.
Er, no. If anything, those discoveries are below what has been assumed by
previous long-term predictions.
And new drilling keeps finding more oil.
"Peak oil" doesn't mean "no more oil". It means that production
costs are on a permanent upward trend as you have to expend ever
increasing effort for a given amount of oil.
And $15 for a Big Mac.Good; I just bought a 3.3 liter V6.
Look forward to paying $10/gallon within the vehicle's lifetime.
There's never a gap between supply and demand. There's just a price.'A report from the non-governmental organisation Global Witness
famous for its exposé of so-called "blood diamonds" pointed to an
impending supply shock that could be so severe that many of the
world's poor countries would simply be shut off from the world of
energy by sky-high prices.
Two years in the preparation, Global Witness's report, Heads in the
Sand, accused governments of ignoring the fact that the world could
soon start to run short of oil. This would lead to huge consequences
in terms of price shocks and much higher levels of violence around the
world than last year's food riots.
"There is a train crash about to happen from an energy point of view.
But politicians everywhere seem to have entirely missed the scale of
the problem," said the report's author, Simon Taylor.
"We are all addicted to oil but if you look at the mathematics of the
problem, they simply don't add up in terms of future supply and
demand."
The report went through the latest figures from the oil industry and
the Paris-based International Energy Agency, which last year
drastically reduced its estimate of the available oil.
The IEA figures showed there could be a gap of 7m barrels a day
between supply and demand by 2015. That represents about 8% of the
expected world demand by then of 91m barrels a day.
Depends on if the current is limited by a resistor and/or cap or by a'A report from the non-governmental organisation Global Witness
famous for its exposé of so-called "blood diamonds" pointed to an
impending supply shock that could be so severe that many of the
world's poor countries would simply be shut off from the world of
energy by sky-high prices.
Two years in the preparation, Global Witness's report, Heads in the
Sand, accused governments of ignoring the fact that the world could
soon start to run short of oil. This would lead to huge consequences
in terms of price shocks and much higher levels of violence around the
world than last year's food riots.
"There is a train crash about to happen from an energy point of view.
But politicians everywhere seem to have entirely missed the scale of
the problem," said the report's author, Simon Taylor.
"We are all addicted to oil but if you look at the mathematics of the
problem, they simply don't add up in terms of future supply and
demand."
The report went through the latest figures from the oil industry and
the Paris-based International Energy Agency, which last year
drastically reduced its estimate of the available oil.
The IEA figures showed there could be a gap of 7m barrels a day
between supply and demand by 2015. That represents about 8% of the
expected world demand by then of 91m barrels a day.
There's never a gap between supply and demand. There's just a price.
It's a whole new ball game post peak.Maybe high efficiency is good for battery powered devices but if they
think that'll save our fannies from peak oil they are bat crap crazy.
Peak oil seems to always be off in the future.
Actually, it seems to have been about a year ago (July 2008, 74.82MBD).
Unless oil prices skyrocket, that may well turn out to be the all-time
peak.
The rotten economy reduced demand. It's returning, and prices are
going up.
Recent discoveries in recovering oil and gas from shale have hugely
multiplied likely reserves.
Er, no. If anything, those discoveries are below what has been assumed by
previous long-term predictions.
And new drilling keeps finding more oil.
"Peak oil" doesn't mean "no more oil". It means that production
costs are on a permanent upward trend as you have to expend ever
increasing effort for a given amount of oil.
Production costs have been on an upward trend for decades, and will
continue upward.
Well we know the price of oil will increase exponentially.Demand will increase too, as a few billion more
people want and get cars. No "peak" in any of that.
Sometimes smoothly, sometimes not so smoothly.Good; I just bought a 3.3 liter V6.
Look forward to paying $10/gallon within the vehicle's lifetime.
And $15 for a Big Mac.
Things adjust.
I'm working on some political - economic resistors I can slip in atDon't panic.