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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
On 9/2/19 2:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:53:26 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
It's actually quite simple. With Windoze 10, Microsoft does little in
the way of testing. The test staff has been re-assigned to other
duties while most testing is now the responsibility of the customers.
Welcome to customer tested software.
Software companies in general always pushing some new feature or other
and the shit from 5 years ago still don't even work right.
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:53:26 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
It's actually quite simple. With Windoze 10, Microsoft does little in
the way of testing. The test staff has been re-assigned to other
duties while most testing is now the responsibility of the customers.
Welcome to customer tested software.
Microsoft Insiders are suppose to do some testing. However, there
seems to be problems with Microsoft either not acting on bugs that
they find, or simply ignoring bugs in order to stay on schedule. I
suspect a big part of this problem is that Microsoft also lacks the
staff to sift through the feedback from developers, insiders,
employees, telemetry, pundits, and the press. With 700 million
machines now running Windoze 10, the amount of feedback that needs to
be sifted and sorted is probably overwhelming.
Most of the testing is done by users. Problems are allegedly reported
back to Microsoft by telemetry. Without the spying, telemetry would
be a great and economical way to develop new software, if it worked.
So far, indications are that it's not an improvement over the old in
house testing system and possibly responsible for the general
reduction in release quality.
As for the muddle in version numbers and release dates, that's what I
would expect from lack of communications and coordination between
departments. I'm not surprised that something like this happened.
However, I am surprised that the explanations from Microsoft
spokes-people tend to blame the users for failing to comprehend how
the release system works, offer nothing in the way of promises that it
will be fixed, and hinting that the muddle might be permanent.
If this is the prelude for "Software as a Service", methinks the road
ahead is actually a mine field.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
If this is the prelude for "Software as a Service", methinks the road
ahead is actually a mine field.
On 9/2/19 2:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 08:53:26 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
It's actually quite simple. With Windoze 10, Microsoft does little in
the way of testing. The test staff has been re-assigned to other
duties while most testing is now the responsibility of the customers.
Welcome to customer tested software.
Software companies in general always pushing some new feature or other
and the shit from 5 years ago still don't even work right.
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ż\_(?)_/Ż
2 weeks ago they broke Office365 (outlook), they fixed it 2 weeksOn 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ż\_(?)_/Ż
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
ÂŻ\_(?)_/ÂŻ
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
On 02/09/19 19:15, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
If this is the prelude for "Software as a Service", methinks the
road ahead is actually a mine field.
Those of us with a clue have long known that would
become the case.
Oldies can remember the curse of the "timesharing bureaux",
and why PCs were welcomed with open arms.
Principal reasons:
- your data was under your control
- your data and processing weren't held hostage
by high priests in white coats
History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.
On 02/09/19 19:15, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
If this is the prelude for "Software as a Service", methinks the road
ahead is actually a mine field.
Those of us with a clue have long known that would
become the case.
Oldies can remember the curse of the "timesharing bureaux",
and why PCs were welcomed with open arms.
Principal reasons:
- your data was under your control
- your data and processing weren't held hostage
by high priests in white coats
History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.
No , we are not. I have been using Linux since 2000, first Redhat, thenOn Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
ÂŻ\_(?)_/ÂŻ
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
On 03/09/2019 03:22, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ż\_(?)_/Ż
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
No , we are not. I have been using Linux since 2000, first Redhat, then
openSuse. It is only the 8-Million-flies-can't-be-wrong people who
suffer. Making a billion $ business out of viruses who should not be
possible in the first place is brilliant marketing but shit engineering.
werner Dahn
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ĺť\_(?)_/Ĺť
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:22:22 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ĺť\_(?)_/Ĺť
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
I am a little confused. You often describe your technique of designing as what amounts to fiddling... running some spice sims, breadboarding something to try an idea, swapping parts to see what happens.
How is this different?
A PC operating system has some 100 billion bits. Which one do you want changed?
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:22:22 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
Ĺť\_(?)_/Ĺť
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
I am a little confused. You often describe your technique of designing as what amounts to fiddling... running some spice sims, breadboarding something to try an idea, swapping parts to see what happens.
How is this different?
A PC operating system has some 100 billion bits. Which one do you want changed?
On 9/3/19 4:03 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, September 2, 2019 at 4:22:22 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 15:16:23 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/2/19 11:53 AM, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/09/02/microsoft_roundup/
How could something this crazy happen?
The Feb update broke a previously working audio/visual hardware/software
suite of mine, the mfgr says "talk to Microsoft" and Microsoft says
"talk to the mfgr"
?\_(?)_/?
A recent Firefox update got tangled with Windows access permissions.
That cost me a few hours of IT consultant time to repair. He basically
fiddled until it got fixed. Better him than me.
We are in the dark ages of computing.
I am a little confused. You often describe your technique of designing as what amounts to fiddling... running some spice sims, breadboarding something to try an idea, swapping parts to see what happens.
How is this different?
A PC operating system has some 100 billion bits. Which one do you want changed?
Sometimes older guys wax nostalgic about the big iron they used in their
teens and 20s in the fashion that you know they thought it was really
something else at the time.
You won't find me waxing nostalgic much about any "In my day" computers
because in the same time period for me what the kids had available was
early Pentiums and some Mac Quadras and stuff. These machines were
unpleasant to use the operating systems stunk they were under-powered,
overpriced,