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Provide description of a single down to the Earth experiment
that can be performed by use of the conventional test equipment.

Mossbauer spectroscopy can demonstrate gravitational red-shift within
a vertical difference of 22.6 metres at sea-level.

They did it back in 1960 so the test equipment can't have been that
fancy.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/gratim.html#c2

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

That experiment is about gamma rays and it is not described at all.
Can you provide the link to the actual Harvard Tower Experiment?
From the URL I did post, hitting "references" gives you

Harvard tower experiment:
Ohanian, page IX-9. ,
Kaufmann, Relativity and Cosmology p31 ,
Pound & Rebka, Phys Rev Lett. 4, 337 (1960) ,
Blatt, Modern Physics Ch3 ,
Rohlf, Modern Physics, Section 19-4

Ohanian is presumeably Hans C. Ohanian's Physics Study Guide.

This gives you references to four physics textbooks and to what
appears to be the original publication in Physics Review Letters back
in 1960.

What more do you want?

Incidentally, gamma-rays are just another form of electromagnetic
radiation, albeit a very high frequency radiation. The iron-57 nucleus
is a very high-Q resonator/absorber for its own gamma-rays, and
Mossbauer spectroscopy uses the Doppler shift generated by mounting
the detecting sample on a loudspeaker coil.

An exceedingly elegant technique ...

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Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
 
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What phase lag is it?
Single gaussian pulse has no phase defined.
You need periodic waveform for phase to be defined!
Electric field is instantaneous it extends across entire length of the
coax
segment.


SNORT!!! SNORT!!! That's a good one, I almost spit on my screen!

You really are clueless!

If you apply an electric potential to one end of a piece of coax,
you are creating a step pulse which will propagate down the coax at
c * the velocity factor of the coax which is typically 0.66, and always
less than 1. This is quite easily demonstrated with a few dozen feet
of coax, and most any 1950s Tektronix scope.

-Chuck


FALSE!
We are creating a gaussian function pulse using arbitrary function waveform
generator and the frequency spectrum of that pulse determines the length of > coax for which it is defined as electrically short!
The classification of a coaxial cable as electrically short or long is
only of interest in as far as it determines which over-simplification
should be used when predicting the behaviour of a particular pulse in
that cable.

The statement that you have described as "FALSE" is not such an
oversimplification, and - in the absence of non-linear elements - can
be used to predict the response of the cable to any arbitrary waveform
by slicing up the driving waveform into narrow pulses - in the limit,
Dirac impulses - and summing the results. This depends on linear
superimposition, which is why non-linear elements are forbidden.

Propagation speed of such pulse is about 40 times faster then the speed of
light in vacuum!
So you claim, to universal hilarity.

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google "Tests of Special Relativity" 340 hits.

http://www.aei.mpg.de/~mpoessel/Physik/RT/srtest.html contains
referances to 14.

Kevin Aylward
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They are not published on the web.
Those are references to vending machines!

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman
They are references to papers in the scientific literature. You may be
able to buy some over them over the web (which I presume is what is
meant by your reference to "vending machines"), but you can also find
your nearest university library, wander in, and start reading. The
libraries I've used have also let me use their coin-operated Xerox
machines, which generally works out cheaper than ordering stuff over
the web.

Had you known this, it might have added something to your tattered
credibility.

Had you used the libary when you were getting your education, you
might not have espoused your fatuous proposition about
faster-than-light data transmission, or needed to be spoon-fed about
the evidence that supports Einstein's theory (adn the evidence is
impressively diverse).

------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

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google "Tests of Special Relativity" 340 hits.

http://www.aei.mpg.de/~mpoessel/Physik/RT/srtest.html contains
referances to 14.

Kevin Aylward
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SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.



They are not published on the web.
Those are references to vending machines!

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman

They are references to papers in the scientific literature. You may be
able to buy some over them over the web (which I presume is what is
meant by your reference to "vending machines"), but you can also find
your nearest university library, wander in, and start reading. The
libraries I've used have also let me use their coin-operated Xerox
machines, which generally works out cheaper than ordering stuff over
the web.

Had you known this, it might have added something to your tattered
credibility.

Had you used the libary when you were getting your education, you
might not have espoused your fatuous proposition about
faster-than-light data transmission, or needed to be spoon-fed about
the evidence that supports Einstein's theory (adn the evidence is
impressively diverse).
You might want to check out
http://www.anasoft.co.uk/physics/gr/emc2/emc2.html
to see how inherent a maximum speed is.


Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
 
"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> wrote:

Electric field is instantaneous it extends across entire length of the coax
segment.
I wonder where you have got that idea.
Any change in the voltage at one end of the cable will take time to
influence the other end. And it will take longer than the time it
would take the light to travel the same distance through air or
vacuum.

Think about when the lightning hits an electrical conductor, like
mains wiring on poles. The voltage is raised to very high values in
that point, and that high voltage rolls along the wire like a wave,
for example into a house and destroys some equipment.

The voltage is not raised instantaneously along the full length of the
cable, it moves like a wave along the cable, with a speed which is
lower than the speed of light.

With modern test equipment it is fairly easy to measure these things,
as the speed of light is 0.3 m/ns or roughly one foot per nanosecond.
With a modern oscilloscope you can measure nanoseconds and picoseconds
so there is no problem to prove that electricity cannot move faster
than light.

You have not done any practical experiments, you have not made any
measurements, your FTL cable is just based on your ideas.
Hope and conviction.

I am sorry, but you will not get any confirmation of FTL, no matter if
the cable is terminated with 50 Ohm or left open.

The only reason why you can get support from spice simulations is that
for practical purposes we do not consider the speed of electricity in
electronics, so the spice simulators use a simplified model, where
there is instantaneous influence.
Reality doesn't work like that.

You think that the theory of relativity is unproven by practical
experiments. You should know that it is not just proven beyond all
doubt, it is also used in technical engineering every day in many
fields of practical technology.


--
Roger J.

(My email address is a spam trap, don't use it)
 
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Provide description of a single down to the Earth experiment
that can be performed by use of the conventional test
equipment.

Mossbauer spectroscopy can demonstrate gravitational red-shift within
a vertical difference of 22.6 metres at sea-level.

They did it back in 1960 so the test equipment can't have been that
fancy.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/gratim.html#c2

--------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

That experiment is about gamma rays and it is not described at all.
Can you provide the link to the actual Harvard Tower Experiment?

From the URL I did post, hitting "references" gives you

Harvard tower experiment:
Ohanian, page IX-9. ,
Kaufmann, Relativity and Cosmology p31 ,
Pound & Rebka, Phys Rev Lett. 4, 337 (1960) ,
Blatt, Modern Physics Ch3 ,
Rohlf, Modern Physics, Section 19-4

Ohanian is presumeably Hans C. Ohanian's Physics Study Guide.

This gives you references to four physics textbooks and to what
appears to be the original publication in Physics Review Letters back
in 1960.

What more do you want?

Incidentally, gamma-rays are just another form of electromagnetic
radiation, albeit a very high frequency radiation. The iron-57 nucleus
is a very high-Q resonator/absorber for its own gamma-rays, and
Mossbauer spectroscopy uses the Doppler shift generated by mounting
the detecting sample on a loudspeaker coil.

An exceedingly elegant technique ...

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
Something that is available on www.

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com
 
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"Mathew Orman" <orman@nospam.com> wrote:

Electric field is instantaneous it extends across entire length of the
coax
segment.

I wonder where you have got that idea.
Any change in the voltage at one end of the cable will take time to
influence the other end. And it will take longer than the time it
would take the light to travel the same distance through air or
vacuum.

Think about when the lightning hits an electrical conductor, like
mains wiring on poles. The voltage is raised to very high values in
that point, and that high voltage rolls along the wire like a wave,
for example into a house and destroys some equipment.

The voltage is not raised instantaneously along the full length of the
cable, it moves like a wave along the cable, with a speed which is
lower than the speed of light.

With modern test equipment it is fairly easy to measure these things,
as the speed of light is 0.3 m/ns or roughly one foot per nanosecond.
With a modern oscilloscope you can measure nanoseconds and picoseconds
so there is no problem to prove that electricity cannot move faster
than light.

You have not done any practical experiments, you have not made any
measurements, your FTL cable is just based on your ideas.
Hope and conviction.

I am sorry, but you will not get any confirmation of FTL, no matter if
the cable is terminated with 50 Ohm or left open.

The only reason why you can get support from spice simulations is that
for practical purposes we do not consider the speed of electricity in
electronics, so the spice simulators use a simplified model, where
there is instantaneous influence.
Reality doesn't work like that.

You think that the theory of relativity is unproven by practical
experiments. You should know that it is not just proven beyond all
doubt, it is also used in technical engineering every day in many
fields of practical technology.


--
Roger J.

(My email address is a spam trap, don't use it)
Yes,
the charge is slow that's electrons.
Electric field of electron is instantaneous.
When electron moves the field does not get distorted.
When charges are added the field change is simultaneous across entire
volume.
When charges rearrange their volume the electric field rearranges
simultaneously.

My FTL data transmission propagate signal in form of electric field and that
is voltage mode and no current at the output.
The displacement current effect is compensated out so the output waveform is
identical with the input one!
Such property allows construction of continuous FTL data transmission lines.

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com
 
In article <bn1is8$ss4$1@news.onet.pl>, Mathew Orman <orman@nospam.com> wrote:
[...]
Electric field of electron is instantaneous.
No it isn't. See below.

When electron moves the field does not get distorted.
When an electron is accelerated, the field at a distance from the electron
lags behind. When it moves at a constant velocity the field is
undistorted from the electron's point of view. From the point of view of
an observer with a different velocity, the field of the electron is
distorted so as to be compressed in the direction of relative motion.
This must be the case for the Doppler effect to work right.


--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
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Something that is available on www.

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman
In large, easy-to-read characters, with lots of simple pictures, in
English, for someone with a short attention span and a reading age of
five?

Get real.

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Something that is available on www.

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman

In large, easy-to-read characters, with lots of simple pictures, in
English, for someone with a short attention span and a reading age of
five?

Get real.

-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
I am!
I deliver as promised!

Sincerely,

Mathew Orman
www.ultra-faster-than-light.com
www.radio-faster-than-light.com
 

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