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Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:24:11 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote:

Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
---
It is only proper to bottom post as I am doing now. There are no
exceptions, and you may notice that top posters are invariably
knuckle-draggers with severe social problems.
--
John (hey, let's open up a can of worms) Fields
 
One should post where it makes most sense. Ignore the bean counters.
............
Baphomet posted:
<< Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable? >>
 
On 23 Sep 2003 15:11:08 GMT, dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey) wrote:

One should post where it makes most sense. Ignore the bean counters.
...........
Baphomet posted:
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
Exactly; and it only makes sense on bottom.

John
 
But the problem I see is that the quotes, the origional of which everyone has
already read, get so long that a brief reply is best at the top.
Don

jjlarkin posted:
<< On 23 Sep 2003 15:11:08 GMT, dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey) wrote:

One should post where it makes most sense. Ignore the bean counters.
...........
Baphomet posted:
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
Exactly; and it only makes sense on bottom.
>>
 
This is precisely why it makes sense to top-post.

If you are writing to those who are entering the thread late then bottom
post.
If you are writing to those who have been following the thread then
top-post.

There is no perfect solution. Tradition says the former, 'sense' says the
later.


"Dbowey" <dbowey@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030923115005.02024.00000048@mb-m22.aol.com...
But the problem I see is that the quotes, the origional of which everyone
has
already read, get so long that a brief reply is best at the top.
Don

jjlarkin posted:
On 23 Sep 2003 15:11:08 GMT, dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey) wrote:

One should post where it makes most sense. Ignore the bean counters.
...........
Baphomet posted:
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or
above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?



Exactly; and it only makes sense on bottom.
 
In article <vn0lsco8nsac64@corp.supernews.com>, fandanospam@catskill.net
says...

Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
Underneath. That way, readers of the thread can see the entire
context of the post.

Posting a reply on top, aka 'Top-posting,' is considered by many
to be a Bad Thing.

73 de KC7GR

--
Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green)
 
Baphomet wrote:
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
Top posting is most appropriate for a single response to a question,
as when replying to an email.

Here, where answers trigger additional questions, comments and
corrections by any number of people, and the result gets archived, the
conversation is easier to understand if you post your text directly
below the thing you are reacting to. The quote markings at the
beginning of each line keep track of who said what, and this feature
should be turned on in the news reader you are using. The google
archive will automatically color code test by who said what if the
quote marks are used, consistently.

It is also a good idea to trim (with a 'snip' or 8< ) indication, any
text that you are not responding to, as a reminder to readers that you
have edited the original post. They can always go back one layer in
the archive of the thread to find out what else was said.

--
John Popelish
 
pdq wrote:
This is precisely why it makes sense to top-post.
No it dosent. What you talking about?

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
 
Those that are following the thread can read the latest post at a glance.
They don't have to scroll to the bottom to read it.


"Kevin Aylward" <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tt_bb.796$Yy4.228@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
pdq wrote:
This is precisely why it makes sense to top-post.

No it dosent. What you talking about?

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
 
John Popelish wrote:
Baphomet wrote:

Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
I'd say it depends on what it is that you want
understood. OTOH, what do _you_ find most easily
understandable, and by what criteria?

Top posting is most appropriate for a single response to a question,
as when replying to an email.
Well, sometimes.

Here, where answers trigger additional questions, comments and
corrections by any number of people, and the result gets archived, the
conversation is easier to understand if you post your text directly
below the thing you are reacting to. The quote markings at the
beginning of each line keep track of who said what, and this feature
should be turned on in the news reader you are using. The google
archive will automatically color code test by who said what if the
quote marks are used, consistently.
Agreed. Then again, sometimes it's acceptable to
intersperse comments where appropriate. Some will insist
that you warn that you're doing so at the top, but ISTM
that's pandering to instant gratification.

It is also a good idea to trim (with a 'snip' or 8< ) indication, any
text that you are not responding to, as a reminder to readers that you
have edited the original post.
That appears to be just too much work for some folks.

They can always go back one layer in
the archive of the thread to find out what else was said.
Some don't have the patience or diligence to do so. Screw
'em.

Mark L. Fergerson
 
On 23 Sep 2003 15:50:05 GMT, dbowey@aol.com (Dbowey) wrote:

But the problem I see is that the quotes, the origional of which everyone has
already read, get so long that a brief reply is best at the top.
Don
---
Selective snipping takes care of that. You already know what you're
talking about, so if I post under what I'm responding to the flow of the
communication isn't disturbed, much like a question necessarily precedes
an answer.
--
John Fields
 
pdq wrote:
Those that are following the thread can read the latest post at a
glance. They don't have to scroll to the bottom to read it.
Ho humm... About the poorest excuse I have read. Replies are usually
interspersed thought a post. Only a trivially short post can make use of
this dubious "advantage"

"Kevin Aylward" <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tt_bb.796$Yy4.228@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net...
pdq wrote:
This is precisely why it makes sense to top-post.

No it dosent. What you talking about?

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
--
Best Regards,

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
 
Baphomet wrote:
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
I much prefer to read bottom posted responses. But
sometimes when I respond, I intersperse my responses
within the text of the previous post. In that case,
sometimes I top post a warning that my comments are
interspersed.



--
local optimization seldom leads to global optimization

my e-mail address is: rb <my last name> AT ieee DOT org
 
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:24:11 -0700, "Baphomet"
<fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote:

Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?

http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq/nquote.html



--
Peter Bennett VE7CEI
GPS and NMEA info and programs: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter/index.html
Newsgroup new user info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
 
"Bruce Lane" <SpammersAreVermin@dev.null> wrote in message
news:MPG.19da0daa9bfba516989a17@192.168.42.131...
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or
above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?

Underneath. That way, readers of the thread can see the entire
context of the post.
So far I've seen no mention of this equally important note on this,
though:

"...ONLY if you're not so lazy that you can't be bothered to
delete the non-relevant portions of the original post. If someone
HAS to scroll down to see the first original thing you've written,
you've left in too damned much original text."

Bottom-posting IS traditionally preferred, by the way, but there's
no reason to get all religiously-fanatical about it.

Bob M.
 
kevin posted:
<< pdq wrote:
Those that are following the thread can read the latest post at a
glance. They don't have to scroll to the bottom to read it.
Ho humm... About the poorest excuse I have read. Replies are usually
interspersed thought a post. Only a trivially short post can make use of
this dubious "advantage" >>

Speaking of "trivial," are your affected use of "Ho humm" and "trivial". Don't
bother forming a reply, I'll do it for you:

Ho hummmmm; trivial comments.
 
I top post, bottom post and sometimes I post all thru the article I am
replying to....... I also snip text out of the documents I am replying
to when I, cornytheclown, feel like it.


John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<ven0nvs4nl58m5sf9tf3m0p93vget9dq2o@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 10:24:11 -0700, "Baphomet"
fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote:

Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?

---
snipped.........
 
On 23 Sep 2003 13:33:42 -0700, cornytheclown@hotmail.com (cornytheclown)
wrote:


---
Me too!

--
John Fields
 
"Baphomet" <fandanospam@catskill.net> wrote in message
news:vn0lsco8nsac64@corp.supernews.com...
Is it considered proper to reply to a newsgroup post underneath or above
the orignal? If proper is the wrong terminology, which method is more
readily understandable?
Who wudda thunk it. Thanks for all of the great responses.
 

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