Newark and Firefox...

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legg

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Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.

RL
 
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.

RL
Click to expand...

Yes, I also have had problems with Firefox on Newark. A
Some other sites, such as Canada Tire, do not work with Firefox.

As much as I hate Chrome (it loads extremely slowly, does not have the
extensions that Firefox has, extremely large footprint, feeble control over
parameters), I have had no choice but to keep Chrome as a backup.

Also, I have run into problems with the latest versions of Firefox. One
problem is loading a blank screen on Youtube. I regressed to Firefox
version 96.0.2 which seems to be much smoother.

One problem with Firefox is you lose all your settings if you try to
install a previous version. I have not found a way around this.



--
MRM
 
On 9/16/2022 9:57 AM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
One problem with Firefox is you lose all your settings if you try to
install a previous version. I have not found a way around this.
Click to expand...

Settings or bookmarks? (you can export bookmarks prior to the up/down-grade)

I usually save a copy of the profile and copy over bits of it,
as needed, to the newer/older installation.

TB is far more annoying to change versions -- esp for saved passwords!
 
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 16:57:15 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI
<spamme@not.com> wrote:

legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:


Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.

RL

Yes, I also have had problems with Firefox on Newark. A
Some other sites, such as Canada Tire, do not work with Firefox.

As much as I hate Chrome (it loads extremely slowly, does not have the
extensions that Firefox has, extremely large footprint, feeble control over
parameters), I have had no choice but to keep Chrome as a backup.

Also, I have run into problems with the latest versions of Firefox. One
problem is loading a blank screen on Youtube. I regressed to Firefox
version 96.0.2 which seems to be much smoother.

One problem with Firefox is you lose all your settings if you try to
install a previous version. I have not found a way around this.
Click to expand...

Version could be an issue. Between successful Newark activity and dud
contact, Firefox was updated to 103.0.2.

All the same, Newark doesn\'t have exclusive stock of anything I\'m
currently using, so I\'ll just avoid them until the two come to terms.

RL
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 5:09:51 AM UTC-7, legg wrote:
Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.

RL
Click to expand...

Also on ebay, I can buy with Firefox, but have to return with Chrome. Firefox won\'t even get pass the first screen on return questions.
 
On 9/16/22 05:10, legg wrote:
Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser to manage
purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then found
myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration since last
activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access issue
(please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone shopping is
practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of either
Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate citizens\',
in my humble opinion.

RL
Click to expand...

Bottom right corner of their homepage has a LIVE AGENT link,
https://www.newark.com/contact-us, which can get you to an online chat
session for website support.

Quick links
*Check Order Status
https://www.newark.com/help-order-status-tracking
might get you results without login or password.
 
On 2022-09-16 14:10, legg wrote:
Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.
Click to expand...

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman
 
legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

Version could be an issue. Between successful Newark activity and dud
contact, Firefox was updated to 103.0.2.
Click to expand...

Does 103 work on Newark?

--
MRM
 
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman
Click to expand...

Abandoning doesn\'t work if it\'s a major vendor with monopoly position, such
as Canadian Tire.

It\'s the browser programmer. Find a version that works or a different
browser.


--
MRM
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:34:31 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman
Abandoning doesn\'t work if it\'s a major vendor with monopoly position, such
as Canadian Tire.
Click to expand...

Or ebay. They just want people to buy and not to return. Recently, i had to return some stuffs that were poorly packed and 80% broken upon arrival.
 
On 9/16/22 11:34, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for web
dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people do that,
they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman

Abandoning doesn\'t work if it\'s a major vendor with monopoly
position, such as Canadian Tire.

It\'s the browser programmer. Find a version that works or a
different browser.
Click to expand...

Newark\'s webmonkey isn\'t on the ball.
https://validator.w3.org/ finds many problems with their site.
 
On 2022-09-16 20:34, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman

Abandoning doesn\'t work if it\'s a major vendor with monopoly position, such
as Canadian Tire.

It\'s the browser programmer. Find a version that works or a different
browser.
Click to expand...

No, actually it\'s the web site designer. He\'s using a design tool
provided by Google or Microsoft that specifically seeks to use
features that aren\'t in the competitor\'s browsers. It\'s foul play,
like all big money competition.

The poor web site designer himself is probably an ignorant actor
in this game, a hapless victim too.

Jeroen Belleman
 
On 09/16/2022 12:23 PM, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.
Click to expand...

Abandoning FireFox is easier. I used FireFox for years but it\'s been
problematic of late. The decline started when they fired Brendan Eich
for political incorrectness.
 
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 10:47:17 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 9/16/22 05:10, legg wrote:

Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser to manage
purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then found
myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration since last
activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access issue
(please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone shopping is
practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of either
Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate citizens\',
in my humble opinion.

RL

Bottom right corner of their homepage has a LIVE AGENT link,
https://www.newark.com/contact-us, which can get you to an online chat
session for website support.

Quick links
*Check Order Status
https://www.newark.com/help-order-status-tracking
might get you results without login or password.
Click to expand...

They directed me to the phone line.

RL
 
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:28:27 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI
<spamme@not.com> wrote:

legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

Version could be an issue. Between successful Newark activity and dud
contact, Firefox was updated to 103.0.2.

Does 103 work on Newark?
Click to expand...

Not sure what rev was present pre- 103.0.2 , only that the specific
rev was allowed to install itself on the 1st of the month. The
previous rev DID work on Newark.

I normally dismiss notices of updates out-of-hand, but was trying
to get a govt weather radar service back up and running, at that
time

RL
 
On 9/16/22 20:08, legg wrote:
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 18:28:27 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett VE3BTI
spamme@not.com> wrote:

legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

Version could be an issue. Between successful Newark activity and
dud contact, Firefox was updated to 103.0.2.

Does 103 work on Newark?

Not sure what rev was present pre- 103.0.2 , only that the specific
rev was allowed to install itself on the 1st of the month. The
previous rev DID work on Newark.

I normally dismiss notices of updates out-of-hand, but was trying to
get a govt weather radar service back up and running, at that time

RL
Click to expand...

I would suggest the ESR line.

\"Get rapid releases to make sure you get the latest features faster, or
go extended to ensure a super stable experience.\"

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/#product-desktop-esr
 
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 08:10:39 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.

RL
Click to expand...

I have no explanation, but I received a delayed email
confirmation of the last \'change of password\' cycle this
am (sent date 7AM yesterday).

. . . . and can now log into the Newark account
for the first time this month, using Firefox.

My newark mail folder is full of these confirmations, from
previous attempts to log in. . . . .as well as thank you notes
for the purchase order I\'m still trying to get out of it\'s coma..


From the record, it also looks like the firefox update was
actually permitted AFTER the Newark log-in issue arose, on
the first of the month, in an attempt to fix it.

On-line chat, to discuss the stalled PO is not an option,
it seems, after logging in (mouse cursor becomes X in circle)


Going back into the records, it looks like a preceeding
purchase order (msde ages ago) for thermal epoxy, also ended
up in limbo.

Both moribund purchases were made with on Newark\'s main website,
because the items were not listed on their Canadian website.

.. . . . . so the problem may be more convoluted than just
browser envy.

RL
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 8:09:51 AM UTC-4, legg wrote:
Anyone using Firefox or any other non-Google Chrome browser
to manage purchasing from Newark?

I recently made a purchase - checked on status later, then
found myself trapped in an \'acount locked due to duration
since last activity - please renew password\' loop.

Contacting them on the phone hasn\'t resolved the web access
issue (please use Chrome browser) and I don\'t think phone
shopping is practical.

I\'ve no intention of using any browser that comes out of
either Google or Microsoft. Niether of them are \'good corporate
citizens\', in my humble opinion.
Click to expand...

Firefox seems to be a loser in the browser wars. Usage has dropped off to single digits of the total browser use and many web developers don\'t support it. Shame, I still use it a lot and don\'t plan to change, but I have to use certain browsers for certain sites. None require the use of Firefox.

--

Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 1:37:07 PM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:
On 9/16/2022 9:57 AM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
One problem with Firefox is you lose all your settings if you try to
install a previous version. I have not found a way around this.
Settings or bookmarks? (you can export bookmarks prior to the up/down-grade)

I usually save a copy of the profile and copy over bits of it,
as needed, to the newer/older installation.

TB is far more annoying to change versions -- esp for saved passwords!
Click to expand...

What is TB??? I haven\'t seen any reference to anything with those initials here and I\'ve never heard of a browser by that name. TaseBook?

--

Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 2:53:24 PM UTC-4, Ed Lee wrote:
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:34:31 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:

You\'re just another collateral victim of the browser wars for
web dominance. Abandon Newark. Tell them why. If enough people
do that, they might learn eventually.

Jeroen Belleman
Abandoning doesn\'t work if it\'s a major vendor with monopoly position, such
as Canadian Tire.
Or ebay. They just want people to buy and not to return. Recently, i had to return some stuffs that were poorly packed and 80% broken upon arrival.
Click to expand...

I\'ve always had good luck with returns on ebay. You have 60 days and they almost always side with the buyer. If that fails, the credit card has never let me down.

--

Rick C. (Lorem Ipsum)

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
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