New HA product development

[John Fields]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:37:29 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:

I am looking to take an idea I have had for several years and work on
bringing it to the market.

I am looking for someone who can develop a small hardware/firmware device.
You will need knowlegde of devloping ethernet firmware application,
electronic circuitry design, and other knowledge skills. Contacts and
knowledge in manufacturing from design, and packaging is a plus.

If you or someone you know is interested please contact me throught the
contact form on my website below.

You will need to sign a Non Compete agreement and a Non Disclosure agreement
prior to getting details of the project. There is no pay up front but you
will be given royalties from the sale of the product. You must be a US
citizen, and have a resume for submittal.

College, and Vocational students may apply, but must have a base knowledge
to complete the project over the summer.


You are addressing this proposal to the wrong group. You want to be
talking with an "embedded systems engineer" with strong ethernet
programming skills. This probably will not be much of a job for them as
it is likely you don't know enough to conceive a requirement of any
complexity. The people who know this sub-specialty can draw on several
candidate reference designs off the top of their head very quickly, and
patch together the software already at their disposal to get a prototype
working quickly. The main problem you will have is that the person who
takes you up the the offer will have something wrong with them.

---
Exquisite!-)

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[fleen_squigger]

As you can tell from the quality, demeanour, and overall tone of Mr F's
posts, he has a rather deeply rooted personality disorder --- a type of
disorder that attracts the attention of mainstream troll-hood. As
mainstream trolls, our objective is to trigger as many enraged, apoplectic
outbursts as we can from certain individuals (such as Mr F) to teach them
that such outbursts are counter-productive, unnecessary, and are simply an
ineffective method of interacting with their fellow human beings --- even
those who disapprove of their NNTP posts.
Most would simply find it laughable that someone has a derogatory opinion of
them or their NNTP posts --- only a very limited minority of newsgroup users
will actually become enraged and post adrenaline-charged, rage-filled
ripostes in response --- these individuals are like gold to the troll
community because these are the people with whom we can do our most valuable
work. Mr F. is one these precious individuals. Please feel free to use him
in this capacity --- all we ask is that you don't over-stress his fragile
ego to the breaking point (as could easily be done). The more Mr F can be
shown that his vitriolic diatribes are something that the world finds
amusing --- not something that inspires fear or awe, the quicker he will
learn to change his errant ways and be brought back into the fold of
humanity --- minus his vituperative rantings.
Please, no over-stressing of an already fragile and fractured ego!

 

[fleen_squigger]

Indeed! How excrutiatingly mah-velous ...

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 18:58:53 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:37:29 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:

I am looking to take an idea I have had for several years and work on
bringing it to the market.

I am looking for someone who can develop a small hardware/firmware device.
You will need knowlegde of devloping ethernet firmware application,
electronic circuitry design, and other knowledge skills. Contacts and
knowledge in manufacturing from design, and packaging is a plus.

If you or someone you know is interested please contact me throught the
contact form on my website below.

You will need to sign a Non Compete agreement and a Non Disclosure agreement
prior to getting details of the project. There is no pay up front but you
will be given royalties from the sale of the product. You must be a US
citizen, and have a resume for submittal.

College, and Vocational students may apply, but must have a base knowledge
to complete the project over the summer.


You are addressing this proposal to the wrong group. You want to be
talking with an "embedded systems engineer" with strong ethernet
programming skills. This probably will not be much of a job for them as
it is likely you don't know enough to conceive a requirement of any
complexity. The people who know this sub-specialty can draw on several
candidate reference designs off the top of their head very quickly, and
patch together the software already at their disposal to get a prototype
working quickly. The main problem you will have is that the person who
takes you up the the offer will have something wrong with them.

---
Exquisite!-)

Damn!!! That's so funny I'm going to have to unplonk Bloggs ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Fred Bloggs]

fleen_squigger wrote:

Indeed! How excrutiatingly mah-velous ...

Whattsa matta- your favorite cartoon shows in re-runs?

 

[fleen_squigger]

You and the rest of your ilk, mes amis, are FAR more entertaining than
cartoons ever were!

 

[gwhite]

Joel Kolstad wrote:

Ah, well TRANSMITTING on the police bands is another issue. That certainly is
illegal (for your friend).

I believe true maydays are never illegal on any band. Note you do not
claim he was arrested for illegal operation. (I admit it has been over
25 years since I took the license exams.)

But note that the FCC confiscated the device
specifically because it was modified and therefore no longer type accepted...

As I wrote, seizure of a non-type accepted radio, that has been legally
used, is different than saying the particular mayday use itself was
illegal.

if you friend had purchased, say, a police radio from eBay and had used it,
technically I believe he would have been OK! (Since, in general, during an
emergency you're allowed to use whatever frequencies and equipment you want to
obtain help, but if the cops discover anything illegal after all the dust has
settled, they can still pursue it....

You sort of got it there. I do not believe a true mayday requires type
accepted equipment.

Keep in mind that while you can find stories where doing something like your
friend did ended up saving someone's life, someone else could find a story
where some moron transmitting on the police bands to report someone's house
being robbed prevented a cop from calling in that he'd been shot and was lying
there dying.

The perfect way to have the government put the clamps on maydays, is to
make them a nuisance.

The normal comm channels into 911 work pretty well, so in practice,
these fears won't likely materialize.

You have to decide for yourself when the overall good
outweighs the bad if you choose to commit a crime...

The point is that context itself can define criminality.

 

[keith]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:56:24 +0000, fleen_squigger wrote:

You and the rest of your ilk, mes amis, are FAR more entertaining than
cartoons ever were!

Particularly since mom has the TV busy watching soaps and is finishing off
a quart of vodka, eh fleen? As you now know, FAS is an ugly thing.

--
Keith

 

[gwhite]

fleen_squigger wrote:

... more likely you are a victim of
lunatic asylum budget-cutbacks --- they thought you'd be ok as long as you
took your medication, and kicked you out to save money.

Usenet access is so much cheaper than Prozac and doctors. Technology
marches on!

 

[Fred Bloggs]

fleen_squigger wrote:

You and the rest of your ilk, mes amis, are FAR more entertaining than
cartoons ever were!

Whatever- sounds like so much smug innuendo from an idle little zero. I
bet you're "bored" too.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:17:42 +0000, Ubergrupenfuhrer wrote:

ubertroll wrote:
Yeah Rich, look, maybe together, if we both try to gang up on the troll,
maybe I'll be more successfull than last time when I got bitched out real
bad.
signed
John (the informant) Fields

You are missing out on a great opportunity here.

Let's look at the original post, where he writes:

"I am looking to take an idea I have had for several years
and work on bringing it to the market. I am looking for
someone who can develop a small hardware/firmware device.
You will need knowlegde of devloping ethernet firmware
application, electronic circuitry design, and other knowledge
skills. Contacts and knowledge in manufacturing from design,
and packaging is a plus. There is no pay up front but you
will be given royalties from the sale of the product."

(Wonders out loud) now where would you send someone who wants to
talk about getting someone to do his product development for him
at zero pay? Why, misc.business.product-dev of course!

ROFLMAOPIMP!!!!

Thanks!
Rich

'scuse - gotta go hit another bowl....

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:47:38 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 16:35:22 GMT, "fleen_squigger"
dags@mustbyte_it.com> wrote:

Don't bother with these neurotic buffoons Brett, they're a complete waste of
time. The only thing they're good at is justifying their self-serving
dysfunctionality. You could offer them the deal of a lifetime and they'd
find a reason to refuse it because they know any involvement with a serious
developer will expose them.



As one who earns 100% of my income DESIGNING, Brett's offer is plain
BS, and won't draw any responders other than amateurs. There's no
contract there... just bait for suckers.

And, WTF is "fleen_squigger"? Ever made more than US$5/hour ?

...Jim Thompson

Jim, You've been trolled, in case you hadn't noticed.
--
Flap!
The Pig Bladder from Uranus, still waiting for that
hot babe to ask what my favorite planet is. ;-j

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 13:44:57 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:47:38 -0700, Jim Thompson

And, WTF is "fleen_squigger"? Ever made more than US$5/hour ?

---
He's a brain-dead troll from alt.electronics who likes to play stupid
games.

It's my fault. I accidentally crossposted troll-food the other day.
Please, don't punish me!

Love,
The Moderator Of The Pissing Box

 

[BruceR]

Gentlemen, Please stop copying comp.home.automation on your
conversation. Thanks.

From:Fred Bloggs
nospam@nospam.com

fleen_squigger wrote:
You and the rest of your ilk, mes amis, are FAR more entertaining
than cartoons ever were!


Whatever- sounds like so much smug innuendo from an idle little zero.
I bet you're "bored" too.

 

[Socialists are Miserable]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:34:47 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
<JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Socialists are Miserable Thieves" <root@localhost.> wrote in message
news:llmjb1t14at456dh7r6p32ihuhsqi275rg@4ax.com...
This is an illegal requirement. You can be sued for this.

You can be sued because someone thinks you're ugly... doesn't mean they'll
win!

What you may have missed is that, unlike requirement US citizens for a
particular position, being ugly is not illegal. Of course, someone
with a couple more neurons would realize that.



--
"A society that robs an individual of the product of his
effort... is... a mob held together by institutionalized
gang rule." -- Ayn Rand

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:04:22 GMT, "fleen_squigger" <ass@barl.com>
wrote:

As you can tell from the quality, demeanour, and overall tone of Mr F's
posts, he has a rather deeply rooted personality disorder --- a type of
disorder that attracts the attention of mainstream troll-hood.

---
As anyone of even marginal intelligence should be able to understand,
the _lack_ of quality in a troll's life, the admitted desire of a
troll for the acceptance of criminal demeanor to be considered
mainstream behavior, and the troll's propensity toward fomenting
discord in the affairs of those not so afflicted are the troll's
raisons d'ętre.
---

As mainstream trolls, our objective is to trigger as many enraged, apoplectic
outbursts as we can from certain individuals (such as Mr F) to teach them
that such outbursts are counter-productive, unnecessary, and are simply an
ineffective method of interacting with their fellow human beings --- even
those who disapprove of their NNTP posts.

---
In order to feed their egos and bring feelings of self-worth into
their wasted lives, trolls like to attempt to engage passers-by by
shouting personally derogatory epithets in an attempt to attract
retaliation (and thus validation) from the passer by. Should _any_
response be forthcoming, the troll's true nature will come to light
and an attempt will be made, by the troll, to slough off its character
defects onto the passer-by and to cause an infection to occur in the
passer-by which will make the troll's actions seem to be benevolent.
---

Most would simply find it laughable that someone has a derogatory opinion of
them or their NNTP posts --- only a very limited minority of newsgroup users
will actually become enraged and post adrenaline-charged, rage-filled
ripostes in response --- these individuals are like gold to the troll
community because these are the people with whom we can do our most valuable
work. Mr F. is one these precious individuals. Please feel free to use him
in this capacity --- all we ask is that you don't over-stress his fragile
ego to the breaking point (as could easily be done). The more Mr F can be
shown that his vitriolic diatribes are something that the world finds
amusing --- not something that inspires fear or awe, the quicker he will
learn to change his errant ways and be brought back into the fold of
humanity --- minus his vituperative rantings.
Please, no over-stressing of an already fragile and fractured ego!

---
Vituperative ranting directed at a troll is anathema to it in that it
forces a crack to appear in its thin outer shell which can easily be
widened by the application of anger, real or feigned. Once the crack
has been opened, the troll is forced to look within itself and,
horrified by what it sees, call for the cessation of activities which
would open the crack wider and wider and eventually lead to the
troll's understanding of its true nature.

Failure to accede to the troll's pleas for "reason" to prevail is the
kindest thing to do, in that it will put the troll out of its misery.

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:07:19 GMT, "fleen_squigger" <ass@barl.com>
wrote:

Indeed! How excrutiatingly mah-velous ...

---
It's considered poor form not to leave a snippet of the post being
replied to in the reply, as a courtesy to the reader.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Joel Kolstad]

"gwhite" <rank@crank.com> wrote in message news:42BA0C35.102355C9@crank.com...

Ah, well TRANSMITTING on the police bands is another issue. That
certainly is
illegal (for your friend).
I believe true maydays are never illegal on any band.

Yes, I meant "transmitting on the police bands in general." Sorry for the
confusion.

The point is that context itself can define criminality.

In general I agree with you, but I think that modifying a radio to transmit on
police bands -- and then using it to do so -- is a pretty cut and dry case of
breaking the law. Although I would say that, if the modification were
made on the spur of the moment (e.g., you're out in the middle of nowhere in a
cabin that happens to have a ham radio, you break your leg, and if somehow you
can't manage to bring up another ham , you instead modify the radio to
transmit out of band), the violation would likely be overlooked.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:44:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
<JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"gwhite" <rank@crank.com> wrote in message news:42BA0C35.102355C9@crank.com...
Ah, well TRANSMITTING on the police bands is another issue. That
certainly is
illegal (for your friend).
I believe true maydays are never illegal on any band.

Yes, I meant "transmitting on the police bands in general." Sorry for the
confusion.

The point is that context itself can define criminality.

In general I agree with you, but I think that modifying a radio to transmit on
police bands -- and then using it to do so -- is a pretty cut and dry case of
breaking the law. Although I would say that, if the modification were
made on the spur of the moment (e.g., you're out in the middle of nowhere in a
cabin that happens to have a ham radio, you break your leg, and if somehow you
can't manage to bring up another ham , you instead modify the radio to
transmit out of band), the violation would likely be overlooked.

---
But the radio would be confiscated!^)

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[BruceR]

Please stop cross posting this thread in comp.home.automation. Thank
you.



From:John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com

On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:44:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

"gwhite" <rank@crank.com> wrote in message
news:42BA0C35.102355C9@crank.com...
Ah, well TRANSMITTING on the police bands is another issue. That
certainly is illegal (for your friend).
I believe true maydays are never illegal on any band.

Yes, I meant "transmitting on the police bands in general." Sorry
for the confusion.

The point is that context itself can define criminality.

In general I agree with you, but I think that modifying a radio to
transmit on police bands -- and then using it to do so -- is a
pretty cut and dry case of breaking the law. Although I would
say that, if the modification were made on the spur of the moment
(e.g., you're out in the middle of nowhere in a cabin that happens
to have a ham radio, you break your leg, and if somehow you can't
manage to bring up another ham , you instead modify the radio to
transmit out of band), the violation would likely be overlooked.

---
But the radio would be confiscated!^)

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer