New Design Help Forum

[J. Petrella]

I just wanted to mention that there is a new design forum at
www.designnotes.com. You can post requests for design help and reply
to intriguing design problems. Check it out!

 

[Meindert Sprang]

"J. Petrella" <jpetrella@imetcorporation.com> wrote in message
news:56e20b21.0401291120.66a3c69f@posting.google.com...

I just wanted to mention that there is a new design forum at
www.designnotes.com. You can post requests for design help and reply
to intriguing design problems. Check it out!

What is it with all those guys who want to set up their own forum? Large
ego's???
What is wrong with these newsgroups?
Don't we engineers live by the proverb "don't fix it if it ain't broken"? Oh
well, if everyone who does not live by this rule (aka "non-engineer") goes
to those forums, it might clean up here a lot....

Meindert

 

[Garrett Mace]

What is it with all those guys who want to set up their own forum? Large
ego's???
What is wrong with these newsgroups?
Don't we engineers live by the proverb "don't fix it if it ain't broken"?
Oh
well, if everyone who does not live by this rule (aka "non-engineer") goes
to those forums, it might clean up here a lot....

Meindert

I think you're mistaken. That's the rule of the users. The actual motto of
the engineer is "If it's not broken, it doesn't have enough features."

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:10:23 +0100, "Meindert Sprang"
<mhsprang@NOcustomSPAMware.nl> wrote:

"J. Petrella" <jpetrella@imetcorporation.com> wrote in message
news:56e20b21.0401291120.66a3c69f@posting.google.com...
I just wanted to mention that there is a new design forum at
www.designnotes.com. You can post requests for design help and reply
to intriguing design problems. Check it out!

What is it with all those guys who want to set up their own forum? Large
ego's???
What is wrong with these newsgroups?
Don't we engineers live by the proverb "don't fix it if it ain't broken"? Oh
well, if everyone who does not live by this rule (aka "non-engineer") goes
to those forums, it might clean up here a lot....

Meindert

It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Walter Harley]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...

It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
<walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?

No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[John Fields]

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:34:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

---
But, spend 5 minutes on it and get $100? That's not so hard to take,
huh?

I agree with you, though. Their outfit bites and about 90% of the
designs are cookbook "courtesy of" and "published with the permission
of". Plus, they've shut down the "Designs for dollars" part of it, so
fuck them.

--
John Fields

 

[Meindert Sprang]

"Garrett Mace" <g.ryan@macetech.com> wrote in message
news:F1hSb.3324$2h.838@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...

I think you're mistaken. That's the rule of the users. The actual motto of
the engineer is "If it's not broken, it doesn't have enough features."

Ha, just like "it's not a bug, it's a feature" right?

Meindert

 

[Walter Harley]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:b1dj10tvpihgpja00f9puga0gmnh64p0j8@4ax.com...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

Sorry - just meant it as a little pun. "Sense," not "cents." Your posts
generally emphasize sense over dollars...

 

[Clifford Heath]

Meindert Sprang wrote:

Ha, just like "it's not a bug, it's a feature" right?

Sometimes referred to as "six-legged features"

 

[onestone]

Clifford Heath wrote:

Meindert Sprang wrote:

Ha, just like "it's not a bug, it's a feature" right?


Sometimes referred to as "six-legged features"

Hey! What's wrong with us 8 legged features?

Al

 

[Tom McAndrews]

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<e0ej10h75ac8hjfcgamp825susb69cr4k8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:34:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

---
But, spend 5 minutes on it and get $100? That's not so hard to take,
huh?

I agree with you, though. Their outfit bites and about 90% of the
designs are cookbook "courtesy of" and "published with the permission
of". Plus, they've shut down the "Designs for dollars" part of it, so
fuck them.

Actually, I just gave these guys a call and they were very helpful.
They explained to me that they are a group of entrepreneurs that just
acquired the website and are revamping it. I would not knock the
contest (which they say is coming back soon); I am a college student
that could really benefit from winning $100.00. They say that you
post original circuits for your peers to judge. These circuit will
then go into achieves for others to learn from. If enough people
participate, this could turn into an excellent knowledge base.

Justlearning1@hotmail.com

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Tom McAndrews wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<e0ej10h75ac8hjfcgamp825susb69cr4k8@4ax.com>...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:34:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:


On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...

It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

---
But, spend 5 minutes on it and get $100? That's not so hard to take,
huh?

I agree with you, though. Their outfit bites and about 90% of the
designs are cookbook "courtesy of" and "published with the permission
of". Plus, they've shut down the "Designs for dollars" part of it, so
fuck them.


Actually, I just gave these guys a call and they were very helpful.
They explained to me that they are a group of entrepreneurs that just
acquired the website and are revamping it. I would not knock the
contest (which they say is coming back soon); I am a college student
that could really benefit from winning $100.00. They say that you
post original circuits for your peers to judge. These circuit will
then go into achieves for others to learn from. If enough people
participate, this could turn into an excellent knowledge base.

Justlearning1@hotmail.com

You are so full of bull! Just register your site with all the search
engines and you will soon be swamped with rude third world idiots
demanding "send me schematics operation theory for HDTV now", "send me
layout detail explanation for nuclear power plant sensor schem", etc.
SED collects the "using standard 180ma automotive relay to activate lamp
with target voltage ...", " accurate and repeatable to ohhh....say
0.1% integration nuclear counter trigger reset help needed...".

 

[John Fields]

On 30 Jan 2004 21:11:20 -0800, justlearning1@hotmail.com (Tom McAndrews)
wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<e0ej10h75ac8hjfcgamp825susb69cr4k8@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:34:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

---
But, spend 5 minutes on it and get $100? That's not so hard to take,
huh?

I agree with you, though. Their outfit bites and about 90% of the
designs are cookbook "courtesy of" and "published with the permission
of". Plus, they've shut down the "Designs for dollars" part of it, so
fuck them.

Actually, I just gave these guys a call and they were very helpful.
They explained to me that they are a group of entrepreneurs that just
acquired the website and are revamping it. I would not knock the
contest (which they say is coming back soon); I am a college student
that could really benefit from winning $100.00. They say that you
post original circuits for your peers to judge. These circuit will
then go into achieves for others to learn from. If enough people
participate, this could turn into an excellent knowledge base.

---
"Excellent knowledge base" my ass.

It sounds to me like what they're trying to do is get a lot of design
expertise for nothing. Especially the contest part, where for $100 (if
they ever even pay it out) they can get a plethora of entries from which
they can pick and choose for their own use. If you can use the $100
then go for it, but read the fine print which will probably go something
like:

"All entries become the property of the bad guys and the good guys agree
to relinquish all rights, forever, to anything they submit, whether they
receive any payment for their submissions or not."

As far as a knowledge base goes, Google archives sci.electronics.basics
and sci.electronics.design, which is a very good, easily accessible
source of almost anything you might want to know about electronics.
They also archive all the other text-based newsgroups, so you'd be
hard-pressed to find a wider-ranging source of data anywhere, I suspect.


--
John Fields

 

[Winfield Hill]

John Fields wrote...

It sounds to me like what they're trying to do is get a lot of design
expertise for nothing. ... read the fine print which will probably go
something like:

"All entries become the property of the bad guys and the good guys agree
to relinquish all rights, forever, to anything they submit, whether they
receive any payment for their submissions or not."

Good guess John! http://www.designnotes.com says,

"The design entry must be an original design, not previously
published, not patented or patent pending, and must have been
built and tested. (!) DesignNotes.com retains the exclusive
publishing rights unless DesignNotes.com gives written
permission to the author to publish elsewhere."

They own it, no matter what.

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

 

[R. Steve Walz]

Meindert Sprang wrote:

"J. Petrella" <jpetrella@imetcorporation.com> wrote in message
news:56e20b21.0401291120.66a3c69f@posting.google.com...
I just wanted to mention that there is a new design forum at
www.designnotes.com. You can post requests for design help and reply
to intriguing design problems. Check it out!

What is it with all those guys who want to set up their own forum? Large
ego's???
-----------

Ignorant ego-maniacal assholes. That's what THIS place was invented
for. They all die anyway, or are dead on arrival more usually.

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Active8]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 10:25:51 -0600, jfields@austininstruments.com
said...

On 30 Jan 2004 21:11:20 -0800, justlearning1@hotmail.com (Tom McAndrews)
wrote:

John Fields <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message news:<e0ej10h75ac8hjfcgamp825susb69cr4k8@4ax.com>...
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:34:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:20:39 -0800, "Walter Harley"
walterh@cafewalterNOSPAM.com> wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:f48j101vpjh46kkuu4chisqofth1kk7i4g@4ax.com...
It had the smell of a scam to me... just that "Designing for Dollars"
title gave me bad vibes.

More of a "designing for sense" fellow, are you?


No. I'm in this game for the money, though I have a great deal of fun
also.

But "Designing for Dollars" on a website has smell of mendacity about
it. Spend a week solving a posted problem and "win" $100...
whoooopeee !-)

---
But, spend 5 minutes on it and get $100? That's not so hard to take,
huh?

I agree with you, though. Their outfit bites and about 90% of the
designs are cookbook "courtesy of" and "published with the permission
of". Plus, they've shut down the "Designs for dollars" part of it, so
fuck them.

Actually, I just gave these guys a call and they were very helpful.
They explained to me that they are a group of entrepreneurs that just
acquired the website and are revamping it. I would not knock the
contest (which they say is coming back soon); I am a college student
that could really benefit from winning $100.00. They say that you
post original circuits for your peers to judge. These circuit will
then go into achieves for others to learn from. If enough people
participate, this could turn into an excellent knowledge base.

---
"Excellent knowledge base" my ass.

It sounds to me like what they're trying to do is get a lot of design
expertise for nothing. Especially the contest part, where for $100 (if
they ever even pay it out) they can get a plethora of entries from which
they can pick and choose for their own use. If you can use the $100
then go for it, but read the fine print which will probably go something
like:

"All entries become the property of the bad guys and the good guys agree
to relinquish all rights, forever, to anything they submit, whether they
receive any payment for their submissions or not."

As far as a knowledge base goes, Google archives sci.electronics.basics
and sci.electronics.design, which is a very good, easily accessible
source of almost anything you might want to know about electronics.
They also archive all the other text-based newsgroups, so you'd be
hard-pressed to find a wider-ranging source of data anywhere, I suspect.

And Google, when properly queried, will also return links to

University sites and manufacturer's app notes, and other electronic
related sites which provide the answers to what? 90% of the
questions asked in SED? 80%? less? and all that knowlege required
to ask a proper question in the first place and/or make use of the
answers one gets here whichever comes first

--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Active8]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 04:30:38 GMT, onestoneXYZ@ABCbigpond.net.au
said...

Clifford Heath wrote:

Meindert Sprang wrote:

Ha, just like "it's not a bug, it's a feature" right?


Sometimes referred to as "six-legged features"

Hey! What's wrong with us 8 legged features?

Al


Nothing. 8 legged features are bugs and 6 legged ones are insects

--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Hank Fenster]

"Meindert Sprang" <mhsprang@NOcustomSPAMware.nl> wrote in message
news:401a03af@news.nb.nu...

"Garrett Mace" <g.ryan@macetech.com> wrote in message
news:F1hSb.3324$2h.838@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...

I think you're mistaken. That's the rule of the users. The actual motto
of
the engineer is "If it's not broken, it doesn't have enough features."

Ha, just like "it's not a bug, it's a feature" right?

Meindert

I actually got the response, "It's not a bug, it's a limitation" from
Microsoft once. I wonder what PR firm got paid millions to come up with that
answer to complaints?

 

[Max Hauser]

"Hank Fenster" <phony@nowhere.cc> wrote in message
news:OscTb.6340$IF1.2819@fed1read01...

I actually got the response, "It's not a bug, it's a limitation" from
Microsoft once. I wonder what PR firm got paid millions to come up with
that
answer to complaints?

I worked for some time for a venerable firm, call it A, owned for years by a
larger, older, more-venerated firm, B. To preserve customer recognition the
"A" name was preserved and the firm was called B-A, for many years. Then a
decision occurred, and internal people concerned with PR called together the
employees and explained very carefully and indirectly, in fact it took many
minutes for us to decrypt this from the oblique ways they expressed it, that
the "B" name would delicately move into exclusivity. Didn't bother us
employees (rose by any other name, etc). But the whole thing seemed
strangely presented. "So in other words," said a plain-spoken senior
colleague of mine, "the `A' name is going away." "Well," the PR manager
replied, "I suppose you could put it that way."

The euphemistic are different from you and me.


Max


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