Need connections help from diagrams

who thinks you should describe how your circuit works, and hook it up one
(or a few) bits at a time.  Do you have a DMM? 'scope?
GH

Apart from abrasiveness and petulance, I expect the main reason folks aren't being very forthcoming is that if medusa gets killed doing this--which appears fairly likely--they don't want it to be their fault.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr..com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr..com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project and somehow I suppose I'm
failing miserably at connections as  it doesn't work.  I'd
like to get some help from someone to either to tell me ( I
could call you) or write the connections needed as understand
it. I have 2 diagrams to email you for the connections...
THank you in  advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much money is in the deceased
Nigerian prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you, for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a bonafide person, not a
scammer or a jerk  with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a point of being
identifiable as being Australian, to avoid being treated like those
others deserve.

We might have typically low regard for authorities and traditions, but
the folk who stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to be treated
as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am German.

This is a group where people who are interested in electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the posters here will use their engineering talent to help other people solve their problem. That is a bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in real life, tends to be the key to having a post be the object of entertainment or not. Your presentation in the first post was so poor that it made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there in never never land a favor by letting them review your (secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you on something you cannot even articulate. All through private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics development. How could I have ever guessed I would be walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics. Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to create
something that you're not trained properly to do. Extra-high voltages
and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment needs extra training and
careful understanding of the dangers in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill yourself
or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?!

Huh? Why can you only say it a few times? Are you being chased by law
enforcement?

And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers, dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM, no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make this device. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me and I can't afford to buy a ready made device. I do not identify it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google groups are not what you'd call private.

WTF are you talking about?

George H.

Never mind.. BTW for those that apparently are not so learned...I'm a woman.. Breeze up on your Greek mythology.
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:51:02 PM UTC-4, pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
who thinks you should describe how your circuit works, and hook it up one
(or a few) bits at a time.  Do you have a DMM? 'scope?
GH

Apart from abrasiveness and petulance, I expect the main reason folks aren't being very forthcoming is that if medusa gets killed doing this--which appears fairly likely--they don't want it to be their fault.

OK. My first assumption is that people mostly know what they are doing.
(I could be wrong... :^)

Could we be held liable if he manages to injure himself?

All medusa's post have been deleted from google groups... so I can't
look back..
(please don't bother re-posting... I'm not that interested.)

The fewer A-holes on SED the better.

George H.
Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On 2020-04-21 15:06, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 1:51:02 PM UTC-4, pcdh...@gmail.com wrote:
who thinks you should describe how your circuit works, and hook it up one
(or a few) bits at a time.  Do you have a DMM? 'scope?
GH

Apart from abrasiveness and petulance, I expect the main reason folks aren't being very forthcoming is that if medusa gets killed doing this--which appears fairly likely--they don't want it to be their fault.

OK. My first assumption is that people mostly know what they are doing.
(I could be wrong... :^)

Could we be held liable if he manages to injure himself?

I don't know. One sort of doubts he/she has enough assets that an
overseas lawsuit would be likely. Given the hush-hush nature of the
project and the high-energy technology, helping might even violate ITAR,
for all I know.

We've had folks post here who really sounded like they were trying to
build IEDs. (They might have been trolling, of course, but what's the
point?)

But the main issue is not endangering life.

All medusa's post have been deleted from google groups... so I can't
look back..
(please don't bother re-posting... I'm not that interested.)

Most of them have been quoted, and they're all still on supernews,
eternal-september, and aioe. Usenet providers stopped accepting cancel
messages long ago.

> The fewer A-holes on SED the better.

Yeah, at least the crazies are sometimes amusing.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project and somehow I suppose I'm
failing miserably at connections as  it doesn't work.  I'd
like to get some help from someone to either to tell me ( I
could call you) or write the connections needed as understand
it. I have 2 diagrams to email you for the connections..
THank you in  advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much money is in the deceased
Nigerian prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you, for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a bonafide person, not a
scammer or a jerk  with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a point of being
identifiable as being Australian, to avoid being treated like those
others deserve.

We might have typically low regard for authorities and traditions, but
the folk who stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to be treated
as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am German.

This is a group where people who are interested in electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the posters here will use their engineering talent to help other people solve their problem. That is a bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in real life, tends to be the key to having a post be the object of entertainment or not. Your presentation in the first post was so poor that it made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there in never never land a favor by letting them review your (secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you on something you cannot even articulate. All through private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics development. How could I have ever guessed I would be walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics. Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to create
something that you're not trained properly to do. Extra-high voltages
and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment needs extra training and
careful understanding of the dangers in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill yourself
or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?!

Huh? Why can you only say it a few times? Are you being chased by law
enforcement?

And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers, dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM, no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make this device. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me and I can't afford to buy a ready made device. I do not identify it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google groups are not what you'd call private.

WTF are you talking about?

George H.
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project and somehow I suppose I'm
failing miserably at connections as  it doesn't work.  I'd
like to get some help from someone to either to tell me ( I
could call you) or write the connections needed as understand
it. I have 2 diagrams to email you for the connections..
THank you in  advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much money is in the deceased
Nigerian prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you, for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a bonafide person, not a
scammer or a jerk  with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a point of being
identifiable as being Australian, to avoid being treated like those
others deserve.

We might have typically low regard for authorities and traditions, but
the folk who stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to be treated
as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am German.

This is a group where people who are interested in electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the posters here will use their engineering talent to help other people solve their problem. That is a bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in real life, tends to be the key to having a post be the object of entertainment or not. Your presentation in the first post was so poor that it made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there in never never land a favor by letting them review your (secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you on something you cannot even articulate. All through private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics development. How could I have ever guessed I would be walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics. Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to create
something that you're not trained properly to do. Extra-high voltages
and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment needs extra training and
careful understanding of the dangers in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill yourself
or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?! And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers, dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM, no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make this device.. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me and I can't afford to buy a ready made device.. I do not identify it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google groups are not what you'd call private.

This is even worse, that you don't understand that even if you don't intend to make an x-ray device, that is what you are doing. The voltage at the spark plugs is not the inherent danger. I've been zapped by auto ignitions many times, although your device may deliver a more powerful jolt and so be more dangerous.

The issue is the voltage will be 10's of thousands of volts which when applied to what you have drawn as an X-ray tube *will* generate X-rays. Heck, in the old days TV picture tube would create X-rays! Not a lot, but kids would sit right in front of the picture tube where they would be exposed to nearly all of them emitted.

Do you understand this design is going to create X-rays? Or is the schematic wrong and there is no tube as you have drawn it?

--

Rick C.

+- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called "teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few members
is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face, and for
the same reasons.

Enough.
 
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being
Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face,
and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".
> Your total lack of humour is confirmed.

It's funny how people who are the butt of offensive jokes don't seem to
share the humor.

Hint: your "joke" was actually not funny, except to people also prone to
racist behaviour. Exactly like blackface.

My humour is evident to anyone who knows me. But this is not a humorous
subject.

CH
 
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being
Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few members
is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face, and for
the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude. Try again.

Your total lack of humour is confirmed.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On 22/4/20 9:46 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being
Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as
black-face, and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist then?
Sauce for the goose, and all that.

See that's where you still don't get it. Respect the person, but not the
ideas.

When I say I disrespect pig-fuckers, I'm saying I disrespect the action
and the ideas that characterise the group - the group is *defined* by
the thing I disrespect. I'm not saying that their entire family or
country deserves the same disrespect.

c.f. my recent comment about "traditionalists and authoritarians" not
being able to see the difference between disrespect for an idea and
disrespect for the persons who hold the idea.

CH.
 
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being
Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face,
and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist then?
Sauce for the goose, and all that.

Your total lack of humour is confirmed.

It's funny how people who are the butt of offensive jokes don't seem to
share the humor.
Hint: your "joke" was actually not funny, except to people also prone to
racist behaviour. Exactly like blackface.

Man, you're really descending into self-caricature. My poking gentle
fun at other white guys is suddenly blackface? _Do_ go on.

My humour is evident to anyone who knows me.

Oh, it is, it is.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On 2020-04-21 20:33, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 10:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:46 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with
being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a
put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the
teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as
black-face, and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying
the exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a
group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people
who doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are
racist then? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

See that's where you still don't get it. Respect the person, but not
the ideas.

I'm waiting for the respect, dude.  You've spent some time today
crapping on me from a great height.

Well, you clearly don't feel comfortable admitting that your behaviour
was wrong (even though a minor infraction) or you'd just have apologised
at the start.

Because it wasn't. You just got your nose out of joint about a purely
imaginary insult. (Hint: the guy you were conferring with just made a
death threat on USENET posting with his real name. Not a good look.)

And that's ok - I've done much worse and tried to deny it too. But we
all benefit from recognising and admitting where we erred - and where
that goes if unchecked. I hope I'm willing to take correction too - I
certainly need it often enough.

You're squirming pretty hard this time, though--I'm apparently "a lovely
guy" who is so emotionally fragile that he can't admit he's a racist who
sleeps in blackface.

Not so much.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 22/4/20 10:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:46 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with
being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a
put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the
teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as
black-face, and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying
the exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a
group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist
then? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

See that's where you still don't get it. Respect the person, but not
the ideas.

I'm waiting for the respect, dude.  You've spent some time today
crapping on me from a great height.

Well, you clearly don't feel comfortable admitting that your behaviour
was wrong (even though a minor infraction) or you'd just have apologised
at the start.

And that's ok - I've done much worse and tried to deny it too. But we
all benefit from recognising and admitting where we erred - and where
that goes if unchecked. I hope I'm willing to take correction too - I
certainly need it often enough.

CH.
 
On 2020-04-21 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:46 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with
being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a
put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the
teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as
black-face, and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist
then? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

See that's where you still don't get it. Respect the person, but not the
ideas.

I'm waiting for the respect, dude. You've spent some time today
crapping on me from a great height.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
On 22/04/2020 5:35 am, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project and somehow I suppose I'm
failing miserably at connections as  it doesn't work.  I'd
like to get some help from someone to either to tell me ( I
could call you) or write the connections needed as understand
it. I have 2 diagrams to email you for the connections..
THank you in  advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much money is in the deceased
Nigerian prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you, for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a bonafide person, not a
scammer or a jerk  with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a point of being
identifiable as being Australian, to avoid being treated like those
others deserve.

We might have typically low regard for authorities and traditions, but
the folk who stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to be treated
as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am German.

This is a group where people who are interested in electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the posters here will use their engineering talent to help other people solve their problem. That is a bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in real life, tends to be the key to having a post be the object of entertainment or not. Your presentation in the first post was so poor that it made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there in never never land a favor by letting them review your (secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you on something you cannot even articulate. All through private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics development. How could I have ever guessed I would be walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics. Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to create
something that you're not trained properly to do. Extra-high voltages
and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment needs extra training and
careful understanding of the dangers in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill yourself
or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?!

Huh? Why can you only say it a few times? Are you being chased by law
enforcement?

And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers, dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM, no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make this device. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me and I can't afford to buy a ready made device. I do not identify it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google groups are not what you'd call private.

WTF are you talking about?

George H.

Never mind.. BTW for those that apparently are not so learned...I'm a woman. Breeze up on your Greek mythology.

So is it an air Ionizer ("negative ion generator")?

--
Cheers,
Chris.
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 7:46:48 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being
Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face,
and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist then?
Sauce for the goose, and all that.

For an educated man you seem to be very poor at thinking. It is not prejudiced to consider the qualities of a group that is defined by having that quality. If your views are conservative it is not prejudiced to refer to your as a conservative, merely a description of your beliefs.

You do understand that, no?


Your total lack of humour is confirmed.

It's funny how people who are the butt of offensive jokes don't seem to
share the humor.
Hint: your "joke" was actually not funny, except to people also prone to
racist behaviour. Exactly like blackface.

Man, you're really descending into self-caricature. My poking gentle
fun at other white guys is suddenly blackface? _Do_ go on.

Doubling down I see.

--

Rick C.

++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 8:13:36 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 20:08, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:46 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:40, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 22/4/20 9:13 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-21 19:12, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with
being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a
put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called
"teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the
teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few
members is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as
black-face, and for the same reasons.

Enough.

I'm pretty sure we're both the same race, dude.  Try again.

Whoosh. I wasn't accusing you of being racist, just of displaying the
exact underlying behaviour that causes it: "Mischaracterising a group".

So your thoughts about conservatives, religious folks, and people who
doubt "The Science Is Settled" climate pronunciamentos are racist
then? Sauce for the goose, and all that.

See that's where you still don't get it. Respect the person, but not the
ideas.

I'm waiting for the respect, dude. You've spent some time today
crapping on me from a great height.

You wear it well.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:35:25 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, blo...@columbus..rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project and somehow I suppose I'm
failing miserably at connections as  it doesn't work.  I'd
like to get some help from someone to either to tell me ( I
could call you) or write the connections needed as understand
it. I have 2 diagrams to email you for the connections..
THank you in  advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much money is in the deceased
Nigerian prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you, for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a bonafide person, not a
scammer or a jerk  with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a point of being
identifiable as being Australian, to avoid being treated like those
others deserve.

We might have typically low regard for authorities and traditions, but
the folk who stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to be treated
as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am German.

This is a group where people who are interested in electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the posters here will use their engineering talent to help other people solve their problem. That is a bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in real life, tends to be the key to having a post be the object of entertainment or not. Your presentation in the first post was so poor that it made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there in never never land a favor by letting them review your (secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you on something you cannot even articulate. All through private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics development. How could I have ever guessed I would be walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics.. Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to create
something that you're not trained properly to do. Extra-high voltages
and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment needs extra training and
careful understanding of the dangers in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill yourself
or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?!

Huh? Why can you only say it a few times? Are you being chased by law
enforcement?

And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers, dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM, no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make this device. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me and I can't afford to buy a ready made device. I do not identify it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google groups are not what you'd call private.

WTF are you talking about?

George H.

Never mind.. BTW for those that apparently are not so learned...I'm a woman. Breeze up on your Greek mythology.

Looks down... I'm so happy not to have seen you. :^)

GH
 
On 2020-04-21 22:14, George Herold wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:35:25 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 3:20:07 PM UTC-4, George Herold
wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:36:39 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 2:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tauno Voipio
wrote:
On 21.4.20 19:14, medusa wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:30:23 AM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus..rr.com wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:46:49 PM UTC-4, medusa
wrote:
On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 7:22:16 PM UTC-4,
Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 5:59 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-20 08:39, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 20/4/20 9:16 am, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-19 18:44, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at 7:34:30 PM
UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-04-18 19:32, medusa wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at
6:01:13 PM UTC-4,
blo...@columbus.rr.com wrote:
On Saturday, April 18, 2020 at
5:27:01 PM UTC-4, medusa wrote:
I'm trying to assemble a project
and somehow I suppose I'm failing
miserably at connections as it
doesn't work. I'd like to get
some help from someone to either
to tell me ( I could call you) or
write the connections needed as
understand it. I have 2 diagrams
to email you for the
connections.. THank you in
advance.

Claire

You forgot to mention how much
money is in the deceased Nigerian
prince's bank account

IF YOU HAVE NOTHING HELPFUL TO OFFER
PISS OFF JERK.


That'll motivate everybody to help you,
for sure.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

He didn'y have to be an arse when I am a
bonafide person, not a scammer or a jerk
with witness one liners.


You're Australian, right?

Who's being the arse now?
Well, you lot do have a bit of form here. ;)

Two or three noisy dickheads do not define a
nation.

Most of us here (there are many!) don't make a
point of being identifiable as being Australian,
to avoid being treated like those others
deserve.

We might have typically low regard for
authorities and traditions, but the folk who
stand out as dickheads are the ones screaming to
be treated as authorities. Strange, isn't it?

CH

I have no bias towards any one but the uncivilized
and the uncouth. As a point of interest I am
German.

This is a group where people who are interested in
electronics go for entertainment. Sometimes the
posters here will use their engineering talent to
help other people solve their problem. That is a
bonus not an obligation. Presentation , just like in
real life, tends to be the key to having a post be
the object of entertainment or not. Your
presentation in the first post was so poor that it
made it natural to turn the thread into a joke

Seriously, you act like you are doing someone out there
in never never land a favor by letting them review your
(secret drawings) and spend their time to educate you
on something you cannot even articulate. All through
private email.

This forum is not a charity, although sometimes people
are charitable.

ment should be noted in the name..not electronics
development. How could I have ever guessed I would be
walking into a site that the regulars suffer from locker
room syndrome and may occasionally talk of electronics..
Don't know how I missed that...my psychic abilities must
be off. I'll seek out an older group that exhibits courtesy
more so than you younger boys. Your group sense of humor
and help escapes me.....and who said I wanted charity? I
was willing to pay to that person who helped me. Would you
talk this way to your mother?!


From the pictures it seems to us that you're attempting to
create something that you're not trained properly to do.
Extra-high voltages and ionizing radiation in X-ray equipment
needs extra training and careful understanding of the dangers
in it.

It is just proper engineering ethic to not help you to grill
yourself or some unsuspecting other person.

--

-TV

Guys I can only say this a few times....I am not attempting to
make some type of xray device...really..does that make sense?!

Huh? Why can you only say it a few times? Are you being chased
by law enforcement?

And yes I've already stated that I am aware of the dangers of the
caps and the coils. I am not a complete novice. In my day part of
my lifetime was spent as a handiman..repairing frigs, washers,
dryers, carpentry etc. Yes i have a decent workbench and a DMM,
no scope (sadly). I am attempting to teach myself electronics
but right now my health and pockets dictate an urgency to make
this device. It is of benefit for my health...not by any means my
death. I've used this type of device for about 15 years and I
wanted to make a better one than the one that broke down on me
and I can't afford to buy a ready made device. I do not identify
it because of current rules and regulatory bodies and google
groups are not what you'd call private.

WTF are you talking about?

George H.

Never mind.. BTW for those that apparently are not so learned...I'm
a woman. Breeze up on your Greek mythology.

Looks down... I'm so happy not to have seen you. :^)

GH

Polish up that shield, man! Watch out, your horse's wing almost
clobbered me!

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
 
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 at 7:12:04 PM UTC-4, Clifford Heath wrote:
On 21/4/20 11:00 pm, pcdhobbs@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not following the conversation here.  What's wrong with being >>Australian???  Was that supposed to be some sort of a put down???

Yes, it was.

You guys are such stonefaces. There's this novel concept called "teasing", which is sometimes fun, both for the teaser and the teasee.

Mischaracterising a group on the basis of the behaviour of a few members
is the essence of racism. It's as unacceptable as black-face, and for
the same reasons.

Enough.

Is this 'cause of Phil's Aussie comment?

You can call Phil a Cannuck... they're stuck with prince Harry
and wife. :^)

GH
(do we need more smiley faces? :^)
 

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