My wife picked up a TV

[amdx]

On 7/7/2017 8:01 AM, John-Del wrote:

On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

After I sold the first two pcb's I decided to list the third pcb.
It sold, but, it happened, the third pcb I sold is being returned.
Customer (a TV repair shop) says 'did not fix backlight problem'
The board worked when I removed it. I suspect poor trouble shooting or
I'm getting back a bad pcb. I did mark my pcb with my intials, so I'll
know if I get the same pcb back.
I posted a picture of my markings to ABSE and to my dropbox account,
this morning I also made a Ebay listing showing the picture of my
markings on the pcb. I used a very high price so no one will bid.
I hope I get back a different pcb. Today is the last day the seller
is supposed to ship it. No notice of shipping, I provided notice to
return on 6-28-17, he has had 6 business days to return.
Mikek

A lot of TV "repair" facilities are guys we call "trunk monkeys"; repair shops operated out of the back of a car. These guys have no training and no state license, but just swap boards around hoping to run into a repair.

Yes, it was indeed poor troubleshooting on the buyer's end and now it's aggravation for you. Samsung LED failures are epidemic, and the repair shop should have known this. Most shops built their own LED testing tools years ago, but now anyone can buy a tester for LED strips that will light even give a voltage readout of the run voltage of any given strip at the tester's preset current limit, and do so without disassembling the display.

It's possible that the buyer made the return request in the hopes you would credit back the money and tell them to keep the board. It wouldn't surprise me if you don't hear from them again.

Too bad you also didn't remove the LED strips from the carcass before scrapping it. These bring good money and are in high demand.

This was a CFL unit, I didn't want to mess with those.
Ebay requested the purchaser to return the item by 7-06-17, it didn't
happen. You may be right, in saying he wanted me to credit back the
money and tell them to keep the board. I didn't
I think it is common for shops to replace pcb's on flat screens.
I worked at a electronics shop 25+ yrs ago repairing VCRs. It was all
component level on the VCR's but I did note the TV tech replaced a lot
of boards. I sometimes helped him on tough dogs, and he was always
impressed that I'd fix a TV at component level, he had spent hours on,
that may tell you something about that TV tech.

 

[John-Del]

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:26:48 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 7/7/2017 8:01 AM, John-Del wrote:
On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

After I sold the first two pcb's I decided to list the third pcb.
It sold, but, it happened, the third pcb I sold is being returned.
Customer (a TV repair shop) says 'did not fix backlight problem'
The board worked when I removed it. I suspect poor trouble shooting or
I'm getting back a bad pcb. I did mark my pcb with my intials, so I'll
know if I get the same pcb back.
I posted a picture of my markings to ABSE and to my dropbox account,
this morning I also made a Ebay listing showing the picture of my
markings on the pcb. I used a very high price so no one will bid.
I hope I get back a different pcb. Today is the last day the seller
is supposed to ship it. No notice of shipping, I provided notice to
return on 6-28-17, he has had 6 business days to return.
Mikek

A lot of TV "repair" facilities are guys we call "trunk monkeys"; repair shops operated out of the back of a car. These guys have no training and no state license, but just swap boards around hoping to run into a repair.

Yes, it was indeed poor troubleshooting on the buyer's end and now it's aggravation for you. Samsung LED failures are epidemic, and the repair shop should have known this. Most shops built their own LED testing tools years ago, but now anyone can buy a tester for LED strips that will light even give a voltage readout of the run voltage of any given strip at the tester's preset current limit, and do so without disassembling the display.

It's possible that the buyer made the return request in the hopes you would credit back the money and tell them to keep the board. It wouldn't surprise me if you don't hear from them again.

Too bad you also didn't remove the LED strips from the carcass before scrapping it. These bring good money and are in high demand.

This was a CFL unit, I didn't want to mess with those.

Ah.. I used to save CCFL tubes and I still have an assortment. Too much trouble to ship safely although many try.

In any case, the TV shop still screwed up. CCFL tubes are easier to check than LEDs. Put a scope probe *in proximity* to the secondary of each CCFL output transformer and watch the waveform. It's important to put the probe in the exact same spot for each as the waveform's amplitude changes significantly with a small physical placement of the probe. A waveform that is much higher and distorted than the rest indicate an open or very lazy tube, or a corroded connection on the tube cap. In any case, playing musical chairs with the inverter transformers to see if the abnormal waveform stays with the suspected tube or follows the transformer quickly identifies this as either a tube problem or inverter problem.

I think it is common for shops to replace pcb's on flat screens.
I worked at a electronics shop 25+ yrs ago repairing VCRs. It was all
component level on the VCR's but I did note the TV tech replaced a lot
of boards.

If you want to make money and do it quickly, you can't be changing boards unless they're particularly cheap. Component level is all we ever did but the problem these days is that even companies like Samsung are not providing full schematics. This means I spend time looking at datasheets and using the "representative" circuit as a guideline for doing component level repair. Fortunately, parts that manufacturers don't sell us can usually be sourced from China. I never order one, I always order 10.

 

[amdx]

On 7/7/2017 3:18 PM, John-Del wrote:

On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:26:48 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 7/7/2017 8:01 AM, John-Del wrote:
On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

After I sold the first two pcb's I decided to list the third pcb.
It sold, but, it happened, the third pcb I sold is being returned.
Customer (a TV repair shop) says 'did not fix backlight problem'
The board worked when I removed it. I suspect poor trouble shooting or
I'm getting back a bad pcb. I did mark my pcb with my intials, so I'll
know if I get the same pcb back.
I posted a picture of my markings to ABSE and to my dropbox account,
this morning I also made a Ebay listing showing the picture of my
markings on the pcb. I used a very high price so no one will bid.
I hope I get back a different pcb. Today is the last day the seller
is supposed to ship it. No notice of shipping, I provided notice to
return on 6-28-17, he has had 6 business days to return.
Mikek

A lot of TV "repair" facilities are guys we call "trunk monkeys"; repair shops operated out of the back of a car. These guys have no training and no state license, but just swap boards around hoping to run into a repair.

Yes, it was indeed poor troubleshooting on the buyer's end and now it's aggravation for you. Samsung LED failures are epidemic, and the repair shop should have known this. Most shops built their own LED testing tools years ago, but now anyone can buy a tester for LED strips that will light even give a voltage readout of the run voltage of any given strip at the tester's preset current limit, and do so without disassembling the display.

It's possible that the buyer made the return request in the hopes you would credit back the money and tell them to keep the board. It wouldn't surprise me if you don't hear from them again.

Too bad you also didn't remove the LED strips from the carcass before scrapping it. These bring good money and are in high demand.

This was a CFL unit, I didn't want to mess with those.

Ah.. I used to save CCFL tubes and I still have an assortment. Too much trouble to ship safely although many try.

In any case, the TV shop still screwed up. CCFL tubes are easier to check than LEDs. Put a scope probe *in proximity* to the secondary of each CCFL output transformer and watch the waveform. It's important to put the probe in the exact same spot for each as the waveform's amplitude changes significantly with a small physical placement of the probe. A waveform that is much higher and distorted than the rest indicate an open or very lazy tube, or a corroded connection on the tube cap. In any case, playing musical chairs with the inverter transformers to see if the abnormal waveform stays with the suspected tube or follows the transformer quickly identifies this as either a tube problem or inverter problem.


I think it is common for shops to replace pcb's on flat screens.
I worked at a electronics shop 25+ yrs ago repairing VCRs. It was all
component level on the VCR's but I did note the TV tech replaced a lot
of boards.

If you want to make money and do it quickly, you can't be changing boards unless they're particularly cheap. Component level is all we ever did but the problem these days is that even companies like Samsung are not providing full schematics. This means I spend time looking at datasheets and using the "representative" circuit as a guideline for doing component level repair. Fortunately, parts that manufacturers don't sell us can usually be sourced from China. I never order one, I always order 10.

Arrgh! I wrote a long response and then I got a white screen of, "I
lost it all."
The purchaser did put the pcb in the mail one day after Ebay's
suggested mail by date. Now I just wait to see if it is the same pcb I
sent him. I don't know if it will help me but I have posted the picture
of my marking on the pcb to several sites, even maid a faux ebay listing
(showing the markings on my pcb) with a very high price so no one will
buy it.
I worked at at electronics repair center in the 80's and early 90's, I
did all the VCR repair, which was all component level repair. It was a
great place to work, the owner was an authorized service center for over
80 companies, which meant we had service manuals for most of them. I
performed service on over 11,000 VCR's in the 10 years I was there.
It's common to have the same problem, so after you have repaired a
few, you know what it needs by the customers description.
When VCR prices got near $250 to $200, people started making the
decision to buy a new one rather than repair. I had thoughts about DVD
repair, but glad I didn't start that because the prices came down quick
on those. I got out of repair and moved to Florida. My timing was pretty
good, I told one of the other tech's I was leaving and he might want to
take over my repairs, (I made the most money at the shop), but by the
next year when I visited he said he was only coming in 3 days a week,
and had another job.

 

[amdx]

On 7/8/2017 2:38 PM, amdx wrote:

On 7/7/2017 3:18 PM, John-Del wrote:
On Friday, July 7, 2017 at 1:26:48 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 7/7/2017 8:01 AM, John-Del wrote:
On Thursday, July 6, 2017 at 10:53:10 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to
repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV.
Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for
each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I
got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer
on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending
away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's
(alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the
same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV
doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an
open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise
me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those
boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before
they're hatched.

Good luck.

After I sold the first two pcb's I decided to list the third pcb.
It sold, but, it happened, the third pcb I sold is being returned.
Customer (a TV repair shop) says 'did not fix backlight problem'
The board worked when I removed it. I suspect poor trouble
shooting or
I'm getting back a bad pcb. I did mark my pcb with my intials, so I'll
know if I get the same pcb back.
I posted a picture of my markings to ABSE and to my dropbox
account,
this morning I also made a Ebay listing showing the picture of my
markings on the pcb. I used a very high price so no one will bid.
I hope I get back a different pcb. Today is the last day the seller
is supposed to ship it. No notice of shipping, I provided notice to
return on 6-28-17, he has had 6 business days to return.
Mikek

A lot of TV "repair" facilities are guys we call "trunk monkeys";
repair shops operated out of the back of a car. These guys have no
training and no state license, but just swap boards around hoping to
run into a repair.

Yes, it was indeed poor troubleshooting on the buyer's end and now
it's aggravation for you. Samsung LED failures are epidemic, and
the repair shop should have known this. Most shops built their own
LED testing tools years ago, but now anyone can buy a tester for LED
strips that will light even give a voltage readout of the run
voltage of any given strip at the tester's preset current limit, and
do so without disassembling the display.

It's possible that the buyer made the return request in the hopes
you would credit back the money and tell them to keep the board. It
wouldn't surprise me if you don't hear from them again.

Too bad you also didn't remove the LED strips from the carcass
before scrapping it. These bring good money and are in high demand.

This was a CFL unit, I didn't want to mess with those.

Ah.. I used to save CCFL tubes and I still have an assortment. Too
much trouble to ship safely although many try.

In any case, the TV shop still screwed up. CCFL tubes are easier to
check than LEDs. Put a scope probe *in proximity* to the secondary of
each CCFL output transformer and watch the waveform. It's important
to put the probe in the exact same spot for each as the waveform's
amplitude changes significantly with a small physical placement of the
probe. A waveform that is much higher and distorted than the rest
indicate an open or very lazy tube, or a corroded connection on the
tube cap. In any case, playing musical chairs with the inverter
transformers to see if the abnormal waveform stays with the suspected
tube or follows the transformer quickly identifies this as either a
tube problem or inverter problem.


I think it is common for shops to replace pcb's on flat screens.
I worked at a electronics shop 25+ yrs ago repairing VCRs. It was all
component level on the VCR's but I did note the TV tech replaced a lot
of boards.

If you want to make money and do it quickly, you can't be changing
boards unless they're particularly cheap. Component level is all we
ever did but the problem these days is that even companies like
Samsung are not providing full schematics. This means I spend time
looking at datasheets and using the "representative" circuit as a
guideline for doing component level repair. Fortunately, parts that
manufacturers don't sell us can usually be sourced from China. I
never order one, I always order 10.

Arrgh! I wrote a long response and then I got a white screen of, "I
lost it all."
The purchaser did put the pcb in the mail one day after Ebay's
suggested mail by date. Now I just wait to see if it is the same pcb I
sent him. I don't know if it will help me but I have posted the picture
of my marking on the pcb to several sites, even maid a faux ebay listing
(showing the markings on my pcb) with a very high price so no one will
buy it.
I worked at at electronics repair center in the 80's and early 90's, I
did all the VCR repair, which was all component level repair. It was a
great place to work, the owner was an authorized service center for over
80 companies, which meant we had service manuals for most of them. I
performed service on over 11,000 VCR's in the 10 years I was there.
It's common to have the same problem, so after you have repaired a
few, you know what it needs by the customers description.
When VCR prices got near $250 to $200, people started making the
decision to buy a new one rather than repair. I had thoughts about DVD
repair, but glad I didn't start that because the prices came down quick
on those. I got out of repair and moved to Florida. My timing was pretty
good, I told one of the other tech's I was leaving and he might want to
take over my repairs, (I made the most money at the shop), but by the
next year when I visited he said he was only coming in 3 days a week,
and had another job.

I got my original PCB back. My only hope is a plea for fairness and
honesty I sent to the buyer. I sent pointing out I sent a working pcb
and he had probably found out by now the inverter pcb was not the
problem with his customers TV, and I didn't think it was fair for him to
use me as source of troubleshooting parts. I ask him to pay the shipping
cost, I'm waiting for a response.
I know fat chance, but I would comply with that request, if I found I
was in error about the troubleshooting.
Mikek

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

I find that "All sales final" is an excellent remedy against frivolous purchases. But, then, I have not sold anything on eBay for some years now. What with Kutztown and specialized groups, that need has been greatly reduced.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[John-Del]

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:55 PM UTC-4, pf...@aol.com wrote:

I find that "All sales final" is an excellent remedy against frivolous purchases. But, then, I have not sold anything on eBay for some years now. What with Kutztown and specialized groups, that need has been greatly reduced..

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

There are ebay vendors who sell parts with a no return policy, but I understand that there's still warranty protection through ebay/paypal if the part is wrong or defective. Supposedly, the ebay seller fees are higher if you sell a part with no return, but like you, I haven't sold anything on ebay for years.

 

[amdx]

On 7/12/2017 6:50 AM, John-Del wrote:

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:55 PM UTC-4, pf...@aol.com wrote:
I find that "All sales final" is an excellent remedy against frivolous purchases. But, then, I have not sold anything on eBay for some years now. What with Kutztown and specialized groups, that need has been greatly reduced.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA



There are ebay vendors who sell parts with a no return policy, but I understand that there's still warranty protection through ebay/paypal if the part is wrong or defective. Supposedly, the ebay seller fees are higher if you sell a part with no return, but like you, I haven't sold anything on ebay for years.

So far the returner has not responded to my email about making me whole.
Mikek

 

[John-Del]

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 7/12/2017 6:50 AM, John-Del wrote:
On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:55 PM UTC-4, pf...@aol.com wrote:
I find that "All sales final" is an excellent remedy against frivolous purchases. But, then, I have not sold anything on eBay for some years now. What with Kutztown and specialized groups, that need has been greatly reduced.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA



There are ebay vendors who sell parts with a no return policy, but I understand that there's still warranty protection through ebay/paypal if the part is wrong or defective. Supposedly, the ebay seller fees are higher if you sell a part with no return, but like you, I haven't sold anything on ebay for years.


So far the returner has not responded to my email about making me whole..
Mikek

You of course are correct, but I don't think the option is yours. Ebay will protect the buyer no matter how wrong they are.

TV "shop" guessed wrong (didn't do the proper diagnostics) and expects you to pay for the shipping. If you sell any other parts I suppose the best option is to sell with a no-return policy and pay a bit more in carry fees.

 

[amdx]

On 7/13/2017 6:28 AM, John-Del wrote:

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 7/12/2017 6:50 AM, John-Del wrote:
On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:55 PM UTC-4, pf...@aol.com wrote:
I find that "All sales final" is an excellent remedy against frivolous purchases. But, then, I have not sold anything on eBay for some years now. What with Kutztown and specialized groups, that need has been greatly reduced.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA



There are ebay vendors who sell parts with a no return policy, but I understand that there's still warranty protection through ebay/paypal if the part is wrong or defective. Supposedly, the ebay seller fees are higher if you sell a part with no return, but like you, I haven't sold anything on ebay for years.


So far the returner has not responded to my email about making me whole.
Mikek


You of course are correct, but I don't think the option is yours. Ebay will protect the buyer no matter how wrong they are.

TV "shop" guessed wrong (didn't do the proper diagnostics) and expects you to pay for the shipping. If you sell any other parts I suppose the best option is to sell with a no-return policy and pay a bit more in carry fees.

It gets worse I used free shipping, so I paid shipping both
directions!
Live and learn, although that TV was a one time thing.
And just to pile on, I donated the proceeds of the first two PCB sales
to this young lady on a life adventure, living in a van and traveling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhf_XarJmE&t=65s
Click her name to go to the page showing all her videos.

Mikek

 

On Friday, 14 July 2017 00:13:26 UTC+1, amdx wrote:

On 7/13/2017 6:28 AM, John-Del wrote:

You of course are correct, but I don't think the option is yours. Ebay will protect the buyer no matter how wrong they are.

TV "shop" guessed wrong (didn't do the proper diagnostics) and expects you to pay for the shipping. If you sell any other parts I suppose the best option is to sell with a no-return policy and pay a bit more in carry fees.


It gets worse I used free shipping, so I paid shipping both
directions!
Live and learn, although that TV was a one time thing.
And just to pile on, I donated the proceeds of the first two PCB sales
to this young lady on a life adventure, living in a van and traveling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhf_XarJmE&t=65s
Click her name to go to the page showing all her videos.

Mikek

No-one sent me money on my time-out trip. Maybe I should have worn whatever she's wearing?


NT

 

[amdx]

On 7/13/2017 10:28 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 14 July 2017 00:13:26 UTC+1, amdx wrote:
On 7/13/2017 6:28 AM, John-Del wrote:

You of course are correct, but I don't think the option is yours. Ebay will protect the buyer no matter how wrong they are.

TV "shop" guessed wrong (didn't do the proper diagnostics) and expects you to pay for the shipping. If you sell any other parts I suppose the best option is to sell with a no-return policy and pay a bit more in carry fees.


It gets worse I used free shipping, so I paid shipping both
directions!
Live and learn, although that TV was a one time thing.
And just to pile on, I donated the proceeds of the first two PCB sales
to this young lady on a life adventure, living in a van and traveling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhf_XarJmE&t=65s
Click her name to go to the page showing all her videos.

Mikek

No-one sent me money on my time-out trip. Maybe I should have worn whatever she's wearing?


NT

I watch for the story not the pictures!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Mikek