My wife picked up a TV

[amdx]

My wife thinks I can fix anything.
Well I can't. She picked up this TV a few days ago, I finally plugged it
in. Looks like it fell over and broke. Here's a picture of the screen.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0i123un6opbtaq/P1010102.JPG?dl=0
What part broke?
Do these have the Fresnel lens over the screen.
I might salvage that.
What other parts can I salvage.

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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:15:48 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

My wife thinks I can fix anything.
Well I can't. She picked up this TV a few days ago, I finally plugged it
in. Looks like it fell over and broke. Here's a picture of the screen.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0i123un6opbtaq/P1010102.JPG?dl=0
What part broke?
Do these have the Fresnel lens over the screen.
I might salvage that.
What other parts can I salvage.

Mikek

If you live in my state, your wife would not be doing you any favors,
because we have to pay to dispose of tv sets, and it's not cheap.

Not sure what's inside that thing, but if there is a power transformer,
save that. Heat sinks, the line cord, possibly any power transistors if
they are screwed on. I suppose you could even unsolder resistors and
caps if you're real patient.

DOES IT HAVE A POWER TRANSFORMER? (I dont know?, since I never tore one
of them apart and wont work on them).

I actually look for old tube tv sets though. I save the power
transformers, output transformer, and all the tubes. The yoke goes in my
copper recycling box, to sell. I salvage some resistors, pots, and
things like terminal strips. The metal chassis can be sold for scrap
metal. (not worth much, but it's recycled). Because I live in the
country, I burn the plastic or wooden cabinet parts. The CRT is the hard
part to get rid of. I put it in a cardboard box, and smash it. Then that
goes in the trash (kind of hidden).

Either way, there is a lot more salvagable in the old tube sets for
someone (like myself) who works on tube stuff. I would not even consider
picking up something like you got.

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 4/24/2017 12:56 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

Because I live in the country, I burn the plastic or
wooden cabinet parts.

No, because you're an asshole.

The CRT is the hard part to get rid of. I put it in
a cardboard box, and smash it. Then that goes in the
trash (kind of hidden).

See above.

The EPA was founded because of people like you.


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On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 14:37:37 -0500, Foxs Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>
wrote:

On 4/24/2017 12:56 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Because I live in the country, I burn the plastic or
wooden cabinet parts.

No, because you're an asshole.

The CRT is the hard part to get rid of. I put it in
a cardboard box, and smash it. Then that goes in the
trash (kind of hidden).

See above.

The EPA was founded because of people like you.

I hate to burst your bubble, but guess what. If you lived in the
country, you would also burn your garbage. Of course in your case, you'd
probably let it pile up and attract rats, because rats are probably the
only friends you have....

We also burn wood to heat our homes. I suppose you find that offensive
too. Then again, you strike me as nothing but a grouchy old a rude
asshole looking to find fault with others so you can pick fights on
newsgroups. I know your type. However I dont come to newsgroups to start
trouble, I come here to discuss the topic of the group in a friendly
manner. People like you are the reason people like me have kill filters.
And you just earned a place in mine....

One other thing, If I dont burn my trash, it will be burned at the local
landfill. They charge big money to haul away trash, sort out the metals,
and burn the rest, creating an ugly mess, covering acres and acres of
land, which will be there forever. I sort out my metals, recycle them,
and burn whatever burns, leaving nothing but a small pile of ashes,
which I bury every few years, and is never seen again.

But I'm sure an old grouch like you cant comprehend that. You live in a
big city where everything is done for you. You have no clue where the
trash goes once it's removed from your property and have no clue where
your food comes from either.

Goodbye!

 

[amdx]

On 4/24/2017 12:56 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:15:48 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

My wife thinks I can fix anything.
Well I can't. She picked up this TV a few days ago, I finally plugged it
in. Looks like it fell over and broke. Here's a picture of the screen.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0i123un6opbtaq/P1010102.JPG?dl=0
What part broke?
Do these have the Fresnel lens over the screen.
I might salvage that.
What other parts can I salvage.

Mikek

If you live in my state, your wife would not be doing you any favors,
because we have to pay to dispose of tv sets, and it's not cheap.

Not sure what's inside that thing, but if there is a power transformer,
save that. Heat sinks, the line cord, possibly any power transistors if
they are screwed on. I suppose you could even unsolder resistors and
caps if you're real patient.

DOES IT HAVE A POWER TRANSFORMER? (I dont know?, since I never tore one
of them apart and wont work on them).

I actually look for old tube tv sets though. I save the power
transformers, output transformer, and all the tubes. The yoke goes in my
copper recycling box, to sell. I salvage some resistors, pots, and
things like terminal strips. The metal chassis can be sold for scrap
metal. (not worth much, but it's recycled). Because I live in the
country, I burn the plastic or wooden cabinet parts. The CRT is the hard
part to get rid of. I put it in a cardboard box, and smash it. Then that
goes in the trash (kind of hidden).

Either way, there is a lot more salvagable in the old tube sets for
someone (like myself) who works on tube stuff. I would not even consider
picking up something like you got.

The last one she picked worked perfectly. I had to buy a $12 remote
control. We have been using it daily at our business with out any
problem for almost a year now.
Mikek

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The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair. The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

 

[tom]

<dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 4/24/2017 3:15 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

But I'm sure an old grouch like you cant comprehend that. You
live in a big city where everything is done for you. You have
no clue where the trash goes once it's removed from your
property and have no clue where your food comes from either.

You're an amazingly ignorant fuck.




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Either way, there is a lot more salvagable in the old tube sets for
someone (like myself) who works on tube stuff. I would not even consider
picking up something like you got.
Hey Old School,
Where I live is semi rural and on an island. Because I'm on an island
trash is expensive to get rid of. So some people burn it because they
can get away with it because of the low population density. However, I
don't burn anything except wood and bushes. I know the old way was to
burn everything yourself and then bury the ashes. But I would strongly
encourage you to not burn plastics. Especially any of the chlorinated
plastics, which are quite common. When the plastics are burned with
paper or wood dioxins are formed. Dioxins are bad stuff and even a
very small exposure can have really bad health affects for certain
animals. Humans being one of them. And I would also urge you to not
break up and toss TV tubes. They are loaded with lead in the glass,
several pounds. This lead will leach out into water that is even
slightly acid. I know, it's not the end of the world if you throw it
away and if you burn plastic. but it does add to the crap we put in
our environment and we are seeing the effects of all now. And if your
dump is burning stuff in the open air it is almost certainly not lined
to prevent runoff. By the way, where do you live that they still burn
garbage in the open air? I can't think of anyplace anymore that does
this in the USA. I'm also a little surprised that you can't recycle
electronic waste for free. Even here on an island virtually all
electronic waste can be disposed of for free. And they do take CRTs.
No charge.
Thanks,
Eric

We can blame the government for a lot of these problems. Here is why.
There was a private company that used to take in used electronics,
particularly computers. The tested everything that came in, and would
fix stuff that was easily repairable. They had a store, where anyone
could buy an entire computer system for $20 to $50, they wiped and sold
all the hardrrives that worked, sold mice, keyboards, computer boards,
RAM, power supplies, modems, and you name it. They sold old vintage
radios and even some old test equipment and sometimes some electric
motors and other stuff like that.

The idiot state government shut them down, so they could make a lot of
money by charging everyone $20 or more (per piece) to get rid of
electronic waste. A TV costs $20. A computer is (I think) the same, and
if that computer includes a monitor and printer, that's 3 items, or $60.

All the stuff that was being recycled and re-sold in that store is now
going to the landfill. What a damn waste. I used to love going to that
store, and shopping for cheap electronic stuff. And if something failed
within 2 weeks it could be returned and exchanged for something similar.

Heck, when they were forced to shut down, I bought the stuff by the box.
Like a whole box of harddrives for $20, and a shoe box size of RAM for
$10, and so on. I still have 20lbs or so of all the small screws and
nuts they had collected from computers. That's been real handy to have.

What we have now, are tv sets. computers and whatever else being tossed
in the ditches along rural roads, because people dont want to pay the
disposal fee. The same is true for tires.

It's a dirty shame. That company was not only profitable, fun to shop
at, but it employed 20 or 30 disabled people, who took that stuff apart,
tested the parts, and ran the store. It's been about 10 years since the
damn state ruined that business and got greedy.

I dont know which plastics contain chlorinated materials, but I can
guess PVC is one of them (from the name).

We do not have any garbage pickup here, but for a huge price, I could
hire a private company. So, I have little choice but to burn paper and
plastics. But I do recycle all metals. On the rare occasion I have to
dispose of a CRT, I smash it in a box, and toss it in a dumpster at some
local business. I really do not know what else I can do.

One thing I do have to say, is that it's time they stop manufacturing
harmful plastics. Yea, I know PVC is useful for plumbing, but what about
all the packaging. Everything we buy is packed in plastic waste. I am
also the first person to complain when I go to a store, but one item and
the idiot clerk puts it into a plastic bag. One local store, the
employees are required to ask "Do you want a bag?". Unless I really need
a bag, I always say "NO". Then some of the idiot clerks put my stuff in
a bag right after I said "NO". That's when I tend to get a little rude
and say "I just told you NO BAG, remove it from the bag"....

In my opinion, all the EPA is good for, is to take money away from
private people, in the name of environment protection. If they were
doing any good, they would attack the producers of all the harmful
packaging and work to find safe alternatives.

 

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:56:41 -0400, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:15:48 -0500, amdx <nojunk@knology.net> wrote:

My wife thinks I can fix anything.
Well I can't. She picked up this TV a few days ago, I finally plugged it
in. Looks like it fell over and broke. Here's a picture of the screen.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n0i123un6opbtaq/P1010102.JPG?dl=0
What part broke?
Do these have the Fresnel lens over the screen.
I might salvage that.
What other parts can I salvage.

Mikek

If you live in my state, your wife would not be doing you any favors,
because we have to pay to dispose of tv sets, and it's not cheap.

Not sure what's inside that thing, but if there is a power transformer,
save that. Heat sinks, the line cord, possibly any power transistors if
they are screwed on. I suppose you could even unsolder resistors and
caps if you're real patient.

DOES IT HAVE A POWER TRANSFORMER? (I dont know?, since I never tore one
of them apart and wont work on them).

I actually look for old tube tv sets though. I save the power
transformers, output transformer, and all the tubes. The yoke goes in my
copper recycling box, to sell. I salvage some resistors, pots, and
things like terminal strips. The metal chassis can be sold for scrap
metal. (not worth much, but it's recycled). Because I live in the
country, I burn the plastic or wooden cabinet parts. The CRT is the hard
part to get rid of. I put it in a cardboard box, and smash it. Then that
goes in the trash (kind of hidden).

Either way, there is a lot more salvagable in the old tube sets for
someone (like myself) who works on tube stuff. I would not even consider
picking up something like you got.

Hey Old School,
Where I live is semi rural and on an island. Because I'm on an island
trash is expensive to get rid of. So some people burn it because they
can get away with it because of the low population density. However, I
don't burn anything except wood and bushes. I know the old way was to
burn everything yourself and then bury the ashes. But I would strongly
encourage you to not burn plastics. Especially any of the chlorinated
plastics, which are quite common. When the plastics are burned with
paper or wood dioxins are formed. Dioxins are bad stuff and even a
very small exposure can have really bad health affects for certain
animals. Humans being one of them. And I would also urge you to not
break up and toss TV tubes. They are loaded with lead in the glass,
several pounds. This lead will leach out into water that is even
slightly acid. I know, it's not the end of the world if you throw it
away and if you burn plastic. but it does add to the crap we put in
our environment and we are seeing the effects of all now. And if your
dump is burning stuff in the open air it is almost certainly not lined
to prevent runoff. By the way, where do you live that they still burn
garbage in the open air? I can't think of anyplace anymore that does
this in the USA. I'm also a little surprised that you can't recycle
electronic waste for free. Even here on an island virtually all
electronic waste can be disposed of for free. And they do take CRTs.
No charge.
Thanks,
Eric

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

This sort of back-and-forth it typically between those who *do* remember when rivers ran orange, caught on fire, or actually gelled, when entire hillsides downwind from smelters were dead - and those who do not.

I have lived on/around three major rivers (Hudson, Susquahanna & Delaware) and our summer house is on a large creek. All three of the majors were open sewers not so very long ago, all three of them now are reasonably clean and produce edible fish. Our summer house creek narrowly (very narrowly) avoided mine-runoff pollution (a total 'killer') in the mid 1990s. All due, specifically, to the efforts of the EPA, and its state brethren. The present incumbent in the White House just lifted the runoff regulations that saved our creek - happily the mining that would have caused it is now gone and the mine is a tourist attraction (and making more money by this than as a mine). But, those in West Virginia may not realize the same outcome.

It really does not take much. A single incident of run-off will destroy a living stream for 50 or more years.

Burning trash: Not a good idea. Sure, cardboard for kindling, perhaps. But food trash - not in bear country. Plastics - the amount of poison spread out in the ash and smoke is stunning - but your neighbor is the one stunned, as I am sure you burn on the edge of your property so the smoke goes elsewhere.

And so on and so forth.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[rickman]

On 4/24/2017 6:00 PM, Foxs Mercantile wrote:

On 4/24/2017 3:15 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

But I'm sure an old grouch like you cant comprehend that. You
live in a big city where everything is done for you. You have
no clue where the trash goes once it's removed from your
property and have no clue where your food comes from either.

You're an amazingly ignorant fuck.

Rather than just berate him you could try explaining that burning
plastic and wood and especially wood with various paints and varnishes
dumps incomplete combustion products into the air. Large scale burning
of waste is done at high temps that completely burns to CO2 and H2O so
there is much fewer toxins in the air and the ash. But heavy metals and
other toxic compounds remain in the ash. With industrial processes the
ash is treated like what it is, toxic waste.

--

Rick C

 

[rickman]

On 4/24/2017 6:52 PM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

Either way, there is a lot more salvagable in the old tube sets for
someone (like myself) who works on tube stuff. I would not even consider
picking up something like you got.
Hey Old School,
Where I live is semi rural and on an island. Because I'm on an island
trash is expensive to get rid of. So some people burn it because they
can get away with it because of the low population density. However, I
don't burn anything except wood and bushes. I know the old way was to
burn everything yourself and then bury the ashes. But I would strongly
encourage you to not burn plastics. Especially any of the chlorinated
plastics, which are quite common. When the plastics are burned with
paper or wood dioxins are formed. Dioxins are bad stuff and even a
very small exposure can have really bad health affects for certain
animals. Humans being one of them. And I would also urge you to not
break up and toss TV tubes. They are loaded with lead in the glass,
several pounds. This lead will leach out into water that is even
slightly acid. I know, it's not the end of the world if you throw it
away and if you burn plastic. but it does add to the crap we put in
our environment and we are seeing the effects of all now. And if your
dump is burning stuff in the open air it is almost certainly not lined
to prevent runoff. By the way, where do you live that they still burn
garbage in the open air? I can't think of anyplace anymore that does
this in the USA. I'm also a little surprised that you can't recycle
electronic waste for free. Even here on an island virtually all
electronic waste can be disposed of for free. And they do take CRTs.
No charge.
Thanks,
Eric

We can blame the government for a lot of these problems. Here is why.
There was a private company that used to take in used electronics,
particularly computers. The tested everything that came in, and would
fix stuff that was easily repairable. They had a store, where anyone
could buy an entire computer system for $20 to $50, they wiped and sold
all the hardrrives that worked, sold mice, keyboards, computer boards,
RAM, power supplies, modems, and you name it. They sold old vintage
radios and even some old test equipment and sometimes some electric
motors and other stuff like that.

The idiot state government shut them down,

What makes you think the "government" shut them down? More likely they
just weren't viable and went out of business.

so they could make a lot of
money by charging everyone $20 or more (per piece) to get rid of
electronic waste. A TV costs $20. A computer is (I think) the same, and
if that computer includes a monitor and printer, that's 3 items, or $60.

Sounds like a good reason to tear computers and such to pieces and
dispose of the components. It takes maybe 5-10 minutes to disassemble a
computer to circuit boards and small boxes and sheet metal. If there is
no law against tossing pieces, then you are good to go. With RoHS there
is very, very little harmful substances in electronics now.

All the stuff that was being recycled and re-sold in that store is now
going to the landfill. What a damn waste. I used to love going to that
store, and shopping for cheap electronic stuff. And if something failed
within 2 weeks it could be returned and exchanged for something similar.

If the business model was viable you would see them all over the
country. You don't so...

Heck, when they were forced to shut down, I bought the stuff by the box.
Like a whole box of harddrives for $20, and a shoe box size of RAM for
$10, and so on. I still have 20lbs or so of all the small screws and
nuts they had collected from computers. That's been real handy to have.

What we have now, are tv sets. computers and whatever else being tossed
in the ditches along rural roads, because people dont want to pay the
disposal fee. The same is true for tires.

It's a dirty shame. That company was not only profitable, fun to shop
at, but it employed 20 or 30 disabled people, who took that stuff apart,
tested the parts, and ran the store. It's been about 10 years since the
damn state ruined that business and got greedy.

I really would like to know how you can say the state "ruined" that
business.

I dont know which plastics contain chlorinated materials, but I can
guess PVC is one of them (from the name).

We do not have any garbage pickup here, but for a huge price, I could
hire a private company. So, I have little choice but to burn paper and
plastics. But I do recycle all metals. On the rare occasion I have to
dispose of a CRT, I smash it in a box, and toss it in a dumpster at some
local business. I really do not know what else I can do.

Lol! You don't want to pay to dispose of your trash, so you illegally
toss it in someone else's dumpster?

One thing I do have to say, is that it's time they stop manufacturing
harmful plastics. Yea, I know PVC is useful for plumbing, but what about
all the packaging. Everything we buy is packed in plastic waste. I am
also the first person to complain when I go to a store, but one item and
the idiot clerk puts it into a plastic bag. One local store, the
employees are required to ask "Do you want a bag?". Unless I really need
a bag, I always say "NO". Then some of the idiot clerks put my stuff in
a bag right after I said "NO". That's when I tend to get a little rude
and say "I just told you NO BAG, remove it from the bag"....

It is *very* easy to control manufacturers. Don't buy their stuff. If
we don't buy it they will stop making it. If you don't buy it you don't
have to worry with the waste.

In my opinion, all the EPA is good for, is to take money away from
private people, in the name of environment protection. If they were
doing any good, they would attack the producers of all the harmful
packaging and work to find safe alternatives.

Really? This makes sense to you?

--

Rick C

 

[pfjw@aol.com]

On Friday, April 28, 2017 at 1:44:35 PM UTC-4, rickman wrote:

Rather than just berate him you could try explaining that burning
plastic and wood and especially wood with various paints and varnishes
dumps incomplete combustion products into the air. Large scale burning
of waste is done at high temps that completely burns to CO2 and H2O so
there is much fewer toxins in the air and the ash. But heavy metals and
other toxic compounds remain in the ash. With industrial processes the
ash is treated like what it is, toxic waste.

Even the Catholic Church - not known for open policies and easy acceptance of alternate truths has a term for this sort of situation:

Invincible Ignorance.

Old School is a self-admitted thief & polluter, generally a fool whose roots are firmly set in the 50s, believes in the concept of "the good old days" (they never were) and is pretty much a lost cause. Not much short of an intellectual cattle-prod will get through his shell, and that only by repeated and assiduous application.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

H.L. Mencken

 

[Foxs Mercantile]

On 4/28/2017 12:55 PM, rickman wrote:
> Really? This makes sense to you?

And this is why I said:
"You're an amazingly ignorant fuck."

Now you know.

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[amdx]

On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:

dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.

Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek

 

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek

That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

 

[Michael Black]

On Wed, 24 May 2017, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged)
success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What
happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at
all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a
wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if
you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad
always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

That's today's internet. "Skill sharing" is really someone who knows what
he's doing writing it down for others (or making a video) and everyone
else is fine, so long as things stay on the same path. But if they fall
off, they are lost, because they don't know how to troubleshoot, just swap
boards.

Michael

 

[amdx]

On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

This was an LCD TV for what that's worth. One board was bought by a TV
shop, the other by an individual.
And count my chickens, I already gave the money away.
Saw this young women on Youtube and was inspired so much I made a donation.

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKhf_XarJmE

She has about 40 videos of her travels.

If you find her story inspiring send her some cash.

Mikek

 

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 8:10:01 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

On 5/24/2017 4:20 PM, ohger1s@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 4:31:36 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
On 4/24/2017 4:24 PM, tom wrote:
dansabrservices@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cea4577e-33c6-4e41-81d5-16af8e6cd155@googlegroups.com...
The LCD/LED panel has broken. This is not worth an attempt to repair.
The replacement panel will cost more than a replacement TV. Send it back
or otherwise dispose of it.

Dan

Or sell the boards on ebay. List the model and part number for each board.
You may make enough to buy a new TV.


Hey, I listed three PCB's from the TV on Ebay on Sunday, I got offers
on two of them today. I ask $65 for each pcb, I got a $50 offer on one
and a $45 offer on the other. I accepted both rather than sending away a
buyer. Fedex has them now.

Mikek



That's the good news... here's the bad:

A lot of people do their own diagnosing or follow someone's (alleged) success on youtube and always assume their TV has the same issue. What happens is they buy the wrong board, or the TV doesn't need a board at all if the display itself is bad or has an open LED in the display or a wiring issue inside.

Recent Samsungs are known for LED failures. It would not surprise me if you don't get a return request on one or both of those boards. My dad always told me not to count my chickens before they're hatched.

Good luck.

This was an LCD TV for what that's worth. One board was bought by a TV
shop, the other by an individual.

Selling to TV shops is the best way to sell boards, but even they sometimes make a guess. Paypal is notorious at siding with the buyer on just a complaint, reasonable or otherwise.

Yes, your TV was an LCD, but other than the extraordinarily rare OLED, most TVs are LCD. The first LCD TVs were simply called LCD as opposed to the other flat screen tech at the time: plasma.

These TVs used CCFL tubes for back light illumination as LCDs are shutters and don't generate any light (unlike plasma and CRT).

Later, when manufacturers found a cheaper way to build back lights, they started using LED arrays to provide the back light for the LCD panel. These TVs are generally called LED, but they are still LCD TVs and use the same screen.

In the service trade, we refer to earlier LCDs as CCFLs and later ones as LED TVs.

The point of this is although you didn't post a model number, that model looks like an LED LCD, not a CCFL LCD. If it is an LED back lit TV, LED failure is common and when an LED opens, there are various symptoms, most of which duplicate bad power supply or bad main boards.