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On 2/02/2015 7:08 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 2/02/2015 7:05 PM, F Murtz wrote:
My AVO.
http://tinypic.com/r/15q5awg/8
http://tinypic.com/r/124wpdd/8
**Nice. What are the accessories? Current shunts?
**The case in great shape. It's original? Finger joints? Unusual timber
for a Pommy product. What kind of wood do you think it is?
Trevor Wilson expressed precisely :
On 31/01/2015 10:52 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
**I avoid ALL Jaycar products, unless there is absolutely no
alternative. Fortunately, there is almost always an alternative
which works better, is more reliable and better constructed. Sadly,
the price is often a little higher (but not always).
If you want to keep shoving money into a company which is geared
solely into ensuring the MD gets a new Ferrari each year, be my
guest.
** Does Gary really do that ?
I thought he was into Lambos.
**Honestly, I have no idea. I was aware that he liked expensive cars.
And why not? He buys cheap, crappy products from China and sells them
at a huge margin. I would feel better about buying his shit, if he
spent a fraction more for superior quality. I really don't care what,
or how many, cars he drives, nor how much money he makes. It seems
that the constant drive for big profits means that something has to
give. He has chosen quality.
Jaycar are OK for those packs of Metric nuts and bolts. They're
low tech, which seems to be what Jaycar manages best.
** I have a Metex 3530 DMM, purchased from Jaycar in July 1985 - paid
$109 for it and it is not even auto-ranging. 30 years on, it still
works fine.
I also have a DSE brand Q-1424 DMM bought in the mid 1990s - it is
very similar to certain Fluke models, like the 70 series.
I do not use it because it is dangerous !!!
Every time you touch the probes onto a voltage of more than 400V, the
display freezes and may well show zero volts.
Not much use to a tech who does a fair bit of valve equipment and
could prove lethal if you do not know about the issue.
The really funny thing is, Fluke had exactly the same problem with an
early version of the 70 series 2 meter and issued a mass recall over
it.
Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery - right ?
**Nasty. MY ancient Fluke 85 has no such issues. It just keeps going.
I replace the battery every couple of years and that's about it. Mind
you: Every single one of my multimeters (I'd guess I have at least ten
of the damned things) still works just fine. Even my original Sanwa
U-50D still works fine. Only one has failed me. A Radio Shack
digital bench meter, which I stupidly connected to a laser power
supply (ca. 1.5kV). It works, but nothing can be reliably or
accurately measured anymore. Even my trusty SOAR ME-532 (I bet you
owned one of those - everyone did) still works, though the shitty
battery cover is held >>> on with gaffa tape now. I recently picked
up an AVO 8 Mk7 (last of the line). I doubt it will see any use. I
just bought it, because I >>> always wanted one and it is a little
bit of history.
I have an AVO Minor if you need it. ^^
**Need? I don't NEED any of them. My Fluke does all I want. I really
do enjoy the look and feel of vintage test equipment though and I had
never seen an AVO Minor. What a little cutie. Might have to consider
adding one to my AVO collection, which presently sits at:
1 X AVO8 Mk7
1 X AVO7 (presently cleaning and repairing the battery compartment)
1 X AVO VCM163 (Stunning old school engineering - the cable lacing
is something to behold)
Oop, I may have missed a bargain, but the item in question was wellOn 3/02/2015 11:42 PM, keithr wrote:
On 1/02/2015 1:29 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:> On 1/02/2015 12:31 PM, John
G wrote:
Trevor Wilson expressed precisely :
On 31/01/2015 10:52 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
**I avoid ALL Jaycar products, unless there is absolutely no
alternative. Fortunately, there is almost always an alternative
which works better, is more reliable and better constructed.
Sadly,
the price is often a little higher (but not always).
I use them because there isn't a realistic option here (Other than the
Tekspurts). I was in there the other day looking for a 15amp cartridge
fuse, The "Expert" behind the counter told me that they didn't have any
(Huh?), would a 10amp be OK?
If you want to keep shoving money into a company which is geared
solely into ensuring the MD gets a new Ferrari each year, be my
guest.
** Does Gary really do that ?
I thought he was into Lambos.
**Honestly, I have no idea. I was aware that he liked expensive
cars.
And why not? He buys cheap, crappy products from China and sells
them
at a huge margin. I would feel better about buying his shit, if he
spent a fraction more for superior quality. I really don't care
what,
or how many, cars he drives, nor how much money he makes. It seems
that the constant drive for big profits means that something has to
give. He has chosen quality.
Just what Tricky Dicky used to do except it was cheap stuff from Japan
in those days. I used to buy stuff retail in Tokyo at one third the
price that Dicky sold it for here. At least he didn't sell farting
chickens though.
Jaycar are OK for those packs of Metric nuts and bolts. They're
low tech, which seems to be what Jaycar manages best.
** I have a Metex 3530 DMM, purchased from Jaycar in July 1985 -
paid
$109 for it and it is not even auto-ranging. 30 years on, it still
works fine.
I also have a DSE brand Q-1424 DMM bought in the mid 1990s - it is
very similar to certain Fluke models, like the 70 series.
I do not use it because it is dangerous !!!
Every time you touch the probes onto a voltage of more than
400V, the
display freezes and may well show zero volts.
Not much use to a tech who does a fair bit of valve equipment and
could prove lethal if you do not know about the issue.
The really funny thing is, Fluke had exactly the same problem
with an
early version of the 70 series 2 meter and issued a mass recall
over
it.
Imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery - right ?
**Nasty. MY ancient Fluke 85 has no such issues. It just keeps
going.
I replace the battery every couple of years and that's about it.
Mind
you: Every single one of my multimeters (I'd guess I have at
least ten
of the damned things) still works just fine. Even my original Sanwa
U-50D still works fine. Only one has failed me. A Radio Shack
digital bench meter, which I stupidly connected to a laser power
supply (ca. 1.5kV). It works, but nothing can be reliably or
accurately measured anymore. Even my trusty SOAR ME-532 (I bet you
owned one of those - everyone did) still works, though the shitty
battery cover is held >>> on with gaffa tape now. I recently picked
up an AVO 8 Mk7 (last of the line). I doubt it will see any use. I
just bought it, because I >>> always wanted one and it is a little
bit of history.
I have an AVO Minor if you need it. ^^
**Need? I don't NEED any of them. My Fluke does all I want. I really
do enjoy the look and feel of vintage test equipment though and I had
never seen an AVO Minor. What a little cutie. Might have to consider
adding one to my AVO collection, which presently sits at:
1 X AVO8 Mk7
1 X AVO7 (presently cleaning and repairing the battery compartment)
1 X AVO VCM163 (Stunning old school engineering - the cable lacing
is something to behold)
I was about to buy an AVO 8 from a stall at a vintage machine fair, then
I found that the guy wanted $50. I'm prepared to go so far for old times
sake but not that far.
**The last price I found for a new AVO 8 Mk7 was around $2,200.00.