Moronic virus writers should be put to sleep

[Bob Parker]

Peter Lowrie <peterlowrie@consultant.com> wrote:

Those that think everytime zonealarm detects an attack that they are indeed
under attack are stupid, sorry.

I don't think that at all. But in amongst all that activity, I've
traced back a few of those probing attempts to some sources which to
my untrained eye looked very suspicious.
Better to have Zone Alarm and long log files from it, than leaving
a machine wide open to everything which is out there, IMHO.

Bob

 

[Bob Parker]

agw@woodtech.net.au (Andy) wrote:

Apologies for the rant - I'm getting off the soapbox now ;-)

Andy

Thanks for your 'rant'- I enjoyed it! If more people were interested
in the spam problem and doing something about it, it wouldn't have
reached this point and be getting visibly worse by the week.

Cheers,
Bob

 

[Don McKenzie]

Bob Parker wrote:

agw@woodtech.net.au (Andy) wrote:

Apologies for the rant - I'm getting off the soapbox now ;-)

Andy

Thanks for your 'rant'- I enjoyed it! If more people were interested
in the spam problem and doing something about it, it wouldn't have
reached this point and be getting visibly worse by the week.

Cheers,
Bob

http://www.e-dotcom.com/spam_exp.php
gives some free pointers about spam reduction.


Don...

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[Franc Zabkar]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:55:29 +1100, "Unbeliever"
<alfkatz@remove.the.bleedin.obvious.ieee.org> put finger to keyboard
and composed:

Along with spammers and idiots who post U.S. only "deals" to Aussie
newsgroups!

I use AVG from grisoft. It's free and worth every penny.

http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php

AVG version 6 does not detect virii in .lzh archives, ie those created
with lha.exe. I've emailed Grisoft's tech support but they are not
interested in bug reports from unregistered users. Hence I'm sticking
with a "free" version of PC-cillin which came bundled with my
mainboard.


- Franc Zabkar
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Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.

 

[Bob Parker]

Getting back to the original subject for a minute.... how many
people here are still getting inundated by those worms pretending to
be an assortment of Micro$oft "patches"? I think it's the "Swen" one.
Even months after it was released by some parasitic sociopathic
little jerk, I'm still getting about 30 per day.
There must be an army of infected machines out there whose
brain-dead owners don't have a clue why their modem's TX LED stays on
for long periods for no apparent reason.

Bob


"The Real Andy" <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Which brings me to the point, If I ever catch one of those fucked up little
square eyed vandal nerd hacker loser 'cant get a root' twisted moronic fools
who writes those viruses I am going to shoot him on the spot. Fuck it, its
worth a jail term i reckon. The courts would probably give me an award for
doing it.

 

[Don McKenzie]

Bob Parker wrote:

Getting back to the original subject for a minute.... how many
people here are still getting inundated by those worms pretending to
be an assortment of Micro$oft "patches"? I think it's the "Swen" one.
Even months after it was released by some parasitic sociopathic
little jerk, I'm still getting about 30 per day.
There must be an army of infected machines out there whose
brain-dead owners don't have a clue why their modem's TX LED stays on
for long periods for no apparent reason.

It is still pouring in Bob,
below is a message posted just now to alt.spam
so you ain't on your own.
Don...


===============================================
Subject: blocking the swen virus
Date: 11 Dec 2003 09:42:17 -0800
From: lap1974_sen@yahoo.co.uk (lolo)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: alt.spam

Hello
Since I put my address on this forum, I do not stop receiving scores
of emails with swen virus attached every day and it ends up blocking
my yahoo mailbox. What can I do to prevent that? does a third party
soft exist to remove them directly from the yahoo server? Thanks for
your suggestions Laurent
================================================


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[Rod Speed]

Peter Lowrie <peterlowrie@consultant.com> wrote in
message news:1254937.M9u858g1tF@xbox.pelnet.net...

Get Linux and all your virus and attack troubles will come to an end.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed fantasyland.

 

[Rob]

"Don McKenzie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3FD8DA72.6DE75171@privacy.net...

Bob Parker wrote:

Getting back to the original subject for a minute.... how many
people here are still getting inundated by those worms pretending to
be an assortment of Micro$oft "patches"? I think it's the "Swen" one.
Even months after it was released by some parasitic sociopathic
little jerk, I'm still getting about 30 per day.
There must be an army of infected machines out there whose
brain-dead owners don't have a clue why their modem's TX LED stays on
for long periods for no apparent reason.

It is still pouring in Bob,
below is a message posted just now to alt.spam
so you ain't on your own.
Don...


===============================================
Subject: blocking the swen virus
Date: 11 Dec 2003 09:42:17 -0800
From: lap1974_sen@yahoo.co.uk (lolo)
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Newsgroups: alt.spam

Hello
Since I put my address on this forum, I do not stop receiving scores
of emails with swen virus attached every day and it ends up blocking
my yahoo mailbox. What can I do to prevent that? does a third party
soft exist to remove them directly from the yahoo server? Thanks for
your suggestions Laurent
================================================


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30+ per day on my yahoo address. I don't understand why Yahoo don't filter
well known / identified junk like this.

rob

 

[The Real Andy]

"Peter Lowrie" <peterlowrie@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:1254937.M9u858g1tF@xbox.pelnet.net...
<snip>

Get Linux and all your virus and attack troubles will come to an end.

Gee. now you have proved that you are a complete fuckwit lowrie. Shit, i
forgot, you have already done that. If you think Linux is virus free then
you should consider pulling your boyfriends penis out of you nose and
getting a real life. Fuck, linux is worse than MS for viruses, damn shame
most linux nerds dont realise, or dont want ot accept. I visited a website
the other day with 1000's of linux security issues.

 

[KLR]

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:40:18 +1100, Bob Parker <bobp@bluebottle.com>
wrote:

Getting back to the original subject for a minute.... how many
people here are still getting inundated by those worms pretending to
be an assortment of Micro$oft "patches"? I think it's the "Swen" one.
Even months after it was released by some parasitic sociopathic
little jerk, I'm still getting about 30 per day.
There must be an army of infected machines out there whose
brain-dead owners don't have a clue why their modem's TX LED stays on
for long periods for no apparent reason.

Bob

I have STILL been getting over 50 a day. Then there are these

"returned message undeliverable" ones that contain the crappy thing
too.

I have never had major spam problems before - but this has got so bad
and gone on so long unchecked that I dumped bigpond completely mostly
for their incompetence and lack of action on this issue alone.

There was no excuse whatsoever for them to not filter out this obvious
shit from all their email accounts, other than them wanting to rip
people off for excess download charges or just being too plain stupid
or lazy to know (or bother) how to fix it.

Since I have gone over to my Yahoo mail account (which I have used as
a back up for about 4 years - I have got about 1of these virus emails
a week

"The Real Andy" <ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Which brings me to the point, If I ever catch one of those fucked up little
square eyed vandal nerd hacker loser 'cant get a root' twisted moronic fools
who writes those viruses I am going to shoot him on the spot. Fuck it, its
worth a jail term i reckon. The courts would probably give me an award for
doing it.

I would too. Whoever maliciously wrote and distributed this "microsoft
service pack" spam needs to be strung up by the balls (or other
equally sensitive body parts)

 

[Bob Parker]

KLR <kenreed1999@REMOVEyahoo.comNO SPAM> wrote:

I have never had major spam problems before - but this has got so bad
and gone on so long unchecked that I dumped bigpond completely mostly
for their incompetence and lack of action on this issue alone.

There was no excuse whatsoever for them to not filter out this obvious
shit from all their email accounts, other than them wanting to rip
people off for excess download charges or just being too plain stupid
or lazy to know (or bother) how to fix it.

For a long time I was getting scores of the Swen things into my
Ozemail account, then it suddenly completely stopped. Not another
single one. Obviously they figured out how to block it, so Bigpond
could too if they wanted to.

Since I have gone over to my Yahoo mail account (which I have used as
a back up for about 4 years - I have got about 1of these virus emails
a week

What I find really annoying is that the Bluebottle
challenge/response anti-spam service got me right in, to the point
where everyone was taking my account there to be my primary one. Then
they got overloaded by unspecified attacks, presumably from low-life
sleazy scum American spammers, and completely turned off all their
anti-spam functions. This account is like a magnet for spam and worms.
They keep promising me that "We'll be back doing spam filtering in
another week or so". The last time I got that promise was on November
8th. What was my main defence against spam is now my main spam
problem. I live in hope, and use Mailwasher to delete up to 300
spam/worms per 24 hours.
I'll get off me soap-box now...

Bob

 

[Don McKenzie]

Bob Parker wrote:

What I find really annoying is that the Bluebottle
challenge/response anti-spam service got me right in, to the point
where everyone was taking my account there to be my primary one. Then
they got overloaded by unspecified attacks, presumably from low-life
sleazy scum American spammers, and completely turned off all their
anti-spam functions. This account is like a magnet for spam and worms.
They keep promising me that "We'll be back doing spam filtering in
another week or so". The last time I got that promise was on November
8th. What was my main defence against spam is now my main spam
problem. I live in hope, and use Mailwasher to delete up to 300
spam/worms per 24 hours.
I'll get off me soap-box now...
Bob

Would drive me mad in my business.
Glad I don't have a spam problem.


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[Peter Lowrie]

The Real Andy wrote:

"Peter Lowrie" <peterlowrie@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:1254937.M9u858g1tF@xbox.pelnet.net...
snip
Get Linux and all your virus and attack troubles will come to an end.

Gee. now you have proved that you are a complete fuckwit lowrie. Shit, i
forgot, you have already done that. If you think Linux is virus free then
you should consider pulling your boyfriends penis out of you nose and
getting a real life. Fuck, linux is worse than MS for viruses, damn shame
most linux nerds dont realise, or dont want ot accept. I visited a website
the other day with 1000's of linux security issues.

Say that to my face.

--
Peter E. Lowrie
----------------------------------------------------------

 

[Peter Lowrie]

Justin Thyme wrote:

"Peter Lowrie" <peterlowrie@consultant.com> wrote in message
news:1254937.M9u858g1tF@xbox.pelnet.net...
Those that think everytime zonealarm detects an attack that they are
indeed
under attack are stupid, sorry. That MS broadcasts PC identities on port
139 everytime a connection is made to a network is not reason to think
you're under attack - you are not. Zone Alarm et al have to justify your
expense in purchasing their products so they bombard you with attack
information in order that you think 'it must be doing it's job' and so
worth the expense have lulled you into a sense of misplaced security.

Get Linux and all your virus and attack troubles will come to an end.
NOT!!!
Linux is still susceptible to attack. And when it does get hacked, a
hacker
is able to do much more on a Linux box than they can on a Windows box.
There are vulnerabilities in many of the utils on linux, such as ssh,
telnet, many ftp's etc etc. There are more Windows viruses around, but
that's just because of the number of windows boxes around. Unless
properly
configured, Linux is very easy for a hacker to get into - and not many
people who do a default install of their favorite distribution will know
how
to properly secure it.
About a year ago, I got called in to fix up a network that was doing
strange
things that got too much for the business's resident Linux guru. The
system
had about 5 Linux servers, and a couple of WinNT servers - only 1 Linux
server, and the 2 windows servers were directly exposed to the internet.
All of the Linux servers had been hacked, and had all sorts of programs
running on them. One of the servers had been hacked in such a way that on
the next reboot it refused to start as many of the standard files had been
deleted. Most of the machines had had the key utilities such as ls and ps
replaced with hacked versions that wouldn't display the malicious
programs.
At the same time, the Windows servers had nothing wrong with them. In the
end I had to back up the data and rebuild the Linux servers as the mess
was
too great to repair. So don't say Linux servers make your security
problems
go away.

2c
--
Peter E. Lowrie
----------------------------------------------------------

Comments noted, thank you. It's probably OK 4 me since I've been a Linux
user since 1992 and have learned what is required to keep the system(s)
safe.

--
Peter E. Lowrie
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[Peter Lowrie]

The Real Andy foul-mouthed, inconsiderate gutless anonymous twerp wrote:

A bunch of verbal smelly stuff

Go wash your mouth out.

--
Peter E. Lowrie
----------------------------------------------------------

 

[Arpit]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:29:37 +1000, "The Real Andy"
<ihatehifitrolls@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

Bought a new laptop, installed MSSQL server. Stupid me forgot to apply the
MS patch for the security vunerablilities in SQL server. Damn blaster
strikes. Now wonder my RPC service keeps shutting down and forcing me to
loose all my work. So of too MS website I go for the patch, 37mB of patches
later all is good. Thank fuck I decided to get that ADSL. Gee, now I can
even get access to MSDN without having to wait for those friggin CD's to
come. msblast port permantly wired shut now...

Which brings me to the point, If I ever catch one of those fucked up little
square eyed vandal nerd hacker loser 'cant get a root' twisted moronic fools
who writes those viruses I am going to shoot him on the spot. Fuck it, its
worth a jail term i reckon. The courts would probably give me an award for
doing it.

Which brings me to another point, i need recommendations for virus software.
Whats the best value for money or better still, whats the best freeware
program available?

Best regards:

Andrew, who has lost about 20 fucken stored procedures to cocksucker virus
motherfucker.

so restore your backups, whats the problem?