"Mike Engelhardt has parted ways with Analog Devices"

[Phil Allison]

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------------

John Larkin's claim was " "Intuition is the most important part of engineering."

** Not JL's claim at all.

So what was his claim?

** He made no claim - it was a quotation.

I cut and pasted that line from his post.

** You removed the context - fuckwit.

I predicted exactly this in an earlier post.

Phil Allison makes a lot of "predictions".

** I make barely any - you damn liar.



> I know why he claims that I lack insight and intuitions

** No you don't.

> I wouldn't have my name on a couple of patents if this were true.

** Utter crap.

The most important part of engineering is transforming ideas into stuff that works reliably.

** Major red herring.

But Phil can't tell us why he thinks that this is a "red herring".

** Huh ?? He was never asked.

He has seen the phrase used, but doesn't actually understand
what it means.

** My god, is there no end to this asshole's RANK absurdity ??

Everybody has intuition.

** Wrong definition.

So do tell us the "right" definition, wise one.

** Keep reading you fucking nut case.

Twaddle.

** That was predictable.

Already described by me as being informed by great insight born of experience and understanding.

Regular intuition with added extra self-delusion.

** Pretty much proves my point about Bill beyond any doubt.

100% ASD fucked and demented.

Bill will never get it, since he will never admit being a dull autistic and rote learning thinker.

Right. I got a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry,

** Fits the bill nicely.

Phil thinks that autism is a label he can hang on people he doesn't approve of.

** Nope. Just people who have every imaginable sign and no clue what they are.

> In fact it's a mental disorder (largely affecting social interactions) with an incidence of about 1.5%.

** Total crap.

Plus giant asshole.

From Phil's point of view.

** An asshole is not hard to spot.

Socially inept and lacking empathy and insight re people.

Bill to a T.

The sick, sad prick is the biggest troll here ATM.



..... Phil

 

[Phil Allison]

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------

Actually, there is an implicit obligation to "make sense"

** So folk do not get the idea you are barking mad ??

Like JL clearly is.


..... Phil

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 12:42:43 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:

Bill Sloman is Lying wrote:
dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

but if intuition is all you've got, you might agree.

** And if you have none you are stuffed.

Yep. Math is for verifying an idea after the fact. Or sometimes
predicting that a better idea is possible. But without the idea
first, there's nothing to do the math on.

John Larkin's claim was " "Intuition is the most important part of engineering."

** Not JL's claim at all.

So what was his claim?

I cut and pasted that line from his post. Do give us your alternative.

Engineering may include inventing new solutions, but that's only part of the business. Intuition is handy, but it's not under rational control,

** Nonsense.

Because Bill lacks insight and intuative thinking he is relying on a dictionary definition that is not appropriate.

I predicted exactly this in an earlier post.

Phil Allison makes a lot of "predictions".

I know why he claims that I lack insight and intuitions - it suits his argument.
I wouldn't have my name on a couple of patents if this were true.

The most important part of engineering is transforming ideas into stuff that works reliably.

** Major red herring.

But Phil can't tell us why he thinks that this is a "red herring". He has seen the phrase used, but doesn't actually understand what it means.

Everybody has intuition.

** Wrong definition.

So do tell us the "right" definition, wise one.

> Engineering "intuition" is a totally different thing.

Twaddle.

> Already described by me as being informed by great insight born of experience and understanding.

Regular intuition with added extra self-delusion.

> Bill will never get it, since he will never admit being a dull autistic and rote learning thinker.

Right. I got a Ph.D. in Physical Chemistry, which involves rather more than rote learning, then branched off into electronic engineering. A dull and predictable choice.

Phil thinks that autism is a label he can hang on people he doesn't approve of.
In fact it's a mental disorder (largely affecting social interactions) with an incidence of about 1.5%.

> Plus giant asshole.

From Phil's point of view. He wants people to agree with his silly ideas and resents it when they don't. John Larkin wants to be flattered, and gets nasty (though not as nasty) when he doesn't get the praise he feels he deserves.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:30:32 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 12:00:07 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat@yahoo.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 7:30:24 PM UTC-4, Phil Allison wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

** JL leaves you wondering if he is in agreement - or not.

He was agreeing and elaborating, adding a current example.

Guess he just likes to "have an edge" as Mr Eastwood remarked.

I am under no obligation to make sense, other than having my circuits
work.

Actually, there is an implicit obligation to "make sense" so that your circuits keep on working in situations where you haven't explicitly tested them.

Not one that you are equipped to comprehend, but it's there anyway.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 9:01:59 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 14:44:34 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

------------------


** JL leaves you wondering if he is in agreement - or not.

He was agreeing and elaborating, adding a current example.

Guess he just likes to "have an edge" as Mr Eastwood remarked.

I am under no obligation to make sense,



** ROTFL - John, you have certainly succeeded in that direction.

Yes. The circuits almost always work first try.

Read this:

https://www.amazon.com/What-Care-Other-People-Think/dp/0393355640/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=book+feinman+people+think&qid=1583964038&sr=8-2

Sadly, John Larkin is no Feinman.

What worked for a card-carrying physics genius isn't a effective for people who don't know enough about science to realise that observational sciences are as reliable as experimental sciences.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 1:29:24 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------


Actually, there is an implicit obligation to "make sense"


** So folk do not get the idea you are barking mad ??

Like JL clearly is.

Sorry Phil. As a psychological diagnostician, you don't have a lot of credibility. John Larkin isn't remotely insane, any more than I am autistic.

Your delusion that you can post claims like that doesn't make you insane, just someone who suffers from poor judgement.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 1:41:38 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------------


John Larkin's claim was " "Intuition is the most important part of engineering."

** Not JL's claim at all.

So what was his claim?

** He made no claim - it was a quotation.

One that he was endorsing. That makes it his claim too.

I cut and pasted that line from his post.

** You removed the context - fuckwit.

There wasn't a lot of context, and it wouldn't have changed anything.

I predicted exactly this in an earlier post.

Phil Allison makes a lot of "predictions".

** I make barely any - you damn liar.

But claim to have made them in the course of your diatribes.

I know why he claims that I lack insight and intuitions

** No you don't.

Dream on.

I wouldn't have my name on a couple of patents if this were true.

** Utter crap.

Which is to say, the kind of implicit argument that Phil can't follow.

The most important part of engineering is transforming ideas into stuff that works reliably.

** Major red herring.

But Phil can't tell us why he thinks that this is a "red herring".

** Huh ?? He was never asked.

He has seen the phrase used, but doesn't actually understand
what it means.

** My god, is there no end to this asshole's RANK absurdity ??

Tell us what you know about training fox hounds then.

Everybody has intuition.

** Wrong definition.

So do tell us the "right" definition, wise one.

** Keep reading you fucking nut case.

Why bother?

Twaddle.

** That was predictable.

You do post a lot of twaddle.

Already described by me as being informed by great insight born of experience and understanding.

Regular intuition with added extra self-delusion.

** Pretty much proves my point about Bill beyond any doubt.

To Phil's satisfaction.

<snip>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------


Actually, there is an implicit obligation to "make sense"


** So folk do not get the idea you are barking mad ??

Like JL clearly is.


.... Phil

Oh, go fix a broken guitar pedal. Probably someone just spilled beer
in it.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
"Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 11:40:50 PM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill Sloman wrote:

---------------


Actually, there is an implicit obligation to "make sense"


** So folk do not get the idea you are barking mad ??

Like JL clearly is.


.... Phil

Oh, go fix a broken guitar pedal. Probably someone just spilled beer
in it.

Funny dude. You would think this guy has better things to do. Obviously he is as much here for the drama as the engineering.

Forget about it Jake. It's the Internet.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Phil Allison]

Bill Sloman wrote:

-----------------

** He made no claim - it was a quotation.

One that he was endorsing. That makes it his claim too.

** Not on this planet it don't - you raving nutter.

I cut and pasted that line from his post.

** You removed the context - fuckwit.

There wasn't a lot of context,

** After removing it, you forgot that it was a quote.

Classic, dumbfuck poster error.

I predicted exactly this in an earlier post.

Phil Allison makes a lot of "predictions".

** I make barely any - you damn liar.

But claim to have made them in the course of your diatribes.

** I barely make any predictions.

I know why he claims that I lack insight and intuitions

** No you don't.

I wouldn't have my name on a couple of patents if this were true.

** Utter crap.

Which is to say,

** It is utter crap.

A fallacy backing up a fallacy backing up a fallacy.

From a completely mad person.

** My god, is there no end to this asshole's RANK absurdity ??

Tell us what you know about training fox hounds then.

** Go fuck yourself - you raving nut case.

Everybody has intuition.

** Wrong definition.

So do tell us the "right" definition, wise one.

** Keep reading you fucking nut case.

Why bother?

** Why breathe ?

No one can stand you Bill- drop dead ASAP.

Do the planet a favour.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 4:05:38 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:

<snip>

** He made no claim - it was a quotation.

One that he was endorsing. That makes it his claim too.

** Not on this planet it don't - you raving nutter.

It may not on the planet you live on - wherever that is.

In the real world it does work that way.

I cut and pasted that line from his post.

** You removed the context - fuckwit.

There wasn't a lot of context,

** After removing it, you forgot that it was a quote.

Not actually true. If you look at my other posts in this thread, you will see I made the point more explicitly elsewhere.

> Classic, dumbfuck poster error.

Classic Phil thinking he can read other people's minds.

I predicted exactly this in an earlier post.

Phil Allison makes a lot of "predictions".

** I make barely any - you damn liar.

But claim to have made them in the course of your diatribes.

** I barely make any predictions.

Not that you realise.

<snip>

> From a completely mad person.

Phil's skills as a psychological diagnostician fail again.

** My god, is there no end to this asshole's RANK absurdity ??

Tell us what you know about training fox hounds then.

The original "red herring" was dragged in front of a pack of fox hounds to distract them from the scent of an actual fox, or substitute for it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:6e552eb6-8c18-4b9e-
ab5d-a3dda09f7bc1@googlegroups.com:

Everybody has intuition.

That is not true or you would not have made that post.

Becaus if everybody had it, including you, you would have enough to
know that your claim is false.

 

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
news:badb7830-a094-4a48-b5e6-66a31053cc5e@googlegroups.com:

Bill Sloman is a ASD fucked demented Idiot wrote:

--------------------------------------------------


Everybody has intuition.

That is not true or you would not have made that post.

Because if everybody had it, including you, you would have
enough to
know that your claim is false


** Every single thing the Slowman claims is false.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

Intuitions is just "fast thinking",

** Completely wrong.

Eg How about "female intuition" ??

All women have ADHD ?



Pretentious twits want to dress it up as some kind of divine
inspiration, but it's just the built-in system we've got for
turning experience into predictions.


** Turning everyday experience into predictions is what keeps
people alive.

Seems pretty important to me.



Because it's built-in, we aren't conscious of the rather sloppy
processing involved.


** Nothing sloppy about it.

It's essential for survival and all problem solving.

Just like "theory of mind" which Bill totally lacks.

And makes him an utter asshole.

Time for the old cunt to die, I say.



... Phil

A perfect example is the precision of pool, yet the chaos of it
makes each experience new and different all the while being the same.
The reason I love it so much.

A really good player can roll that cue ball up just right for his
or her next shot. Poor players do not evan look that one shot ahead.

Bill would not even play because there is no degree available for
it, and even if there were, he could never get one, because he is
incapable of grasping inertial physics at that level, much less
applying it.

So now the next excuse will bubble forth.

 

[Phil Allison]

Bill Sloman is a ASD fucked demented Idiot wrote:

--------------------------------------------------

Everybody has intuition.

That is not true or you would not have made that post.

Because if everybody had it, including you, you would have enough to
know that your claim is false

** Every single thing the Slowman claims is false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

Intuitions is just "fast thinking",

** Completely wrong.

Eg How about "female intuition" ??

All women have ADHD ?

Pretentious twits want to dress it up as some kind of divine inspiration, but it's just the built-in system we've got for turning experience into predictions.

** Turning everyday experience into predictions is what keeps people alive.

Seems pretty important to me.

Because it's built-in, we aren't conscious of the rather sloppy
processing involved.

** Nothing sloppy about it.

It's essential for survival and all problem solving.

Just like "theory of mind" which Bill totally lacks.

And makes him an utter asshole.

Time for the old cunt to die, I say.



.... Phil

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 6:41:49 PM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:6e552eb6-8c18-4b9e-
ab5d-a3dda09f7bc1@googlegroups.com:

Everybody has intuition.

That is not true or you would not have made that post.

Because if everybody had it, including you, you would have enough to
know that your claim is false.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

Intuitions is just "fast thinking", and everybody does it.

Pretentious twits want to dress it up as some kind of divine inspiration, but it's just the built-in system we've got for turning experience into predictions.

Because it's built-in, we aren't conscious of the rather sloppy processing involved.

Your pig-ignorant certainties come from the same unreliable source.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 11:16:43 PM UTC+11, Phil Allison wrote:

Bill Sloman is a ASD fucked demented Idiot wrote:

<snip>

Everybody has intuition.

That is not true or you would not have made that post.

Because if everybody had it, including you, you would have enough to
know that your claim is false


** Every single thing the Sloman claims is false.

So I'm promoted to Always Wrong?

Phil is even further out of touch with reality than usual.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_Fast_and_Slow

Intuitions is just "fast thinking",

** Completely wrong.

Eg How about "female intuition" ??

Same process as male intuition. Neither sex can explain how they jump to conclusions. because the process is built-in and automatic, as well as decidedly half-baked, as you'd expect in something that evolved.

> All women have ADHD?

Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder?

What's that got to do with intuition?

Pretentious twits want to dress it up as some kind of divine inspiration, but it's just the built-in system we've got for turning experience into predictions.

** Turning everyday experience into predictions is what keeps people alive.

Absolutely. The built-in system does work well most of the time, but it pays to keep an eye on it, and think through important decisions systematically.

Evolved systems evolve by killing off the people who get born with less satisfactory versions of the system, and natural variation means that none of them are exactly the same, or any better than they have to be.

> Seems pretty important to me.

It's very handy when you are in a hurry, and dangerously seductive when you aren't.

Because it's built-in, we aren't conscious of the rather sloppy
processing involved.

** Nothing sloppy about it.

It's essential for survival and all problem solving.

Read the book. Fast thinking is a quick and dirty way of coming up with a possible solution. Slow thinking lets you work out what you are doing in logical steps, and it's much more likely to get you to the best available solution.

> Just like "theory of mind" which Bill totally lacks.

I clearly have theories about how Phil's mind works - and how it works as badly as it does - so it's Phil that's exhibiting defective reasoning here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind

He's got this theory than everybody who disagrees with him is autistic, which is not so much a theory of mind as a fatuous delusion.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 11:30:18 PM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
news:badb7830-a094-4a48-b5e6-66a31053cc5e@googlegroups.com:

<snip>

A perfect example is the precision of pool, yet the chaos of it
makes each experience new and different all the while being the same.

That makes it a perfect example of intuition in action?

The reason I love it so much.

A really good player can roll that cue ball up just right for his
or her next shot.

And they do it by intuition?

Poor players do not even look that one shot ahead.

Bill would not even play because there is no degree available for
it, and even if there were, he could never get one, because he is
incapable of grasping inertial physics at that level, much less
applying it.

When I was a post-doc at Southampton I played pool - the university had pool tables where the graduate students and post-docs could play for free.

I got to point where I could use spin to get the cue ball (and the ball it hit) to go more or less where I wanted them to. It was social activity, and I didn't play enough to get anything like good at it.

> So now the next excuse will bubble forth.

Excuse for what?

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:695314db-a4e4-41f3-80c2-d2982033d770@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 11:30:18 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
news:badb7830-a094-4a48-b5e6-66a31053cc5e@googlegroups.com:

snip

A perfect example is the precision of pool, yet the chaos of it
makes each experience new and different all the while being the
same.

That makes it a perfect example of intuition in action?

The reason I love it so much.

A really good player can roll that cue ball up just right for
his
or her next shot.

And they do it by intuition?

Poor players do not even look that one shot ahead.

Bill would not even play because there is no degree available
for
it, and even if there were, he could never get one, because he is
incapable of grasping inertial physics at that level, much less
applying it.

When I was a post-doc at Southampton I played pool - the
university had pool tables where the graduate students and
post-docs could play for free.

I got to point where I could use spin to get the cue ball (and the
ball it hit) to go more or less where I wanted them to. It was
social activity, and I didn't play enough to get anything like
good at it.

Run, billy, run! Before someone finds outr that what I said is
true. Talk too much, and I'll have to call you Billvaney, ot
Mulbilly

So now the next excuse will bubble forth.

Excuse for what?

Lack of grasp of the depth of the human mind.

Not just for conception, but yeah, dipshit, we know how to prove
what we 'try out' too.

Like in pool... my 'just fuckin' around shots' are 3 orders of
magnitude more advanced than your best 'thought I knew how to do
that' STAB at it.

Thanks for giving the conceptual masses among us credit. It really
works well to establish your credibility.

Or in your case... credibillytee.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Friday, March 13, 2020 at 1:06:53 AM UTC+11, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:695314db-a4e4-41f3-80c2-d2982033d770@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, March 12, 2020 at 11:30:18 PM UTC+11,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in
news:badb7830-a094-4a48-b5e6-66a31053cc5e@googlegroups.com:

snip

Run, billy, run! Before someone finds out that what I said is
true.

The question isn't so much whether it's true as whether it's relevant to anything. You like boasting about your prowess at pool, and talk about whenever you think you have an opportunity.

<snip>

So now the next excuse will bubble forth.

Excuse for what?

Lack of grasp of the depth of the human mind.

The skills displayed by pool players are some kind of illustration of the depth of the human mind?

The computational part is trivial. Getting the cue to move at roughly right speed, and getting it to hit the cue ball at more or less the right place isn't trivial, but the mind rather gets in the way of that.

<snipped the rest - DLUNU does get tedious>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[George Herold]

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 3:21:36 PM UTC-4, dagmarg...@yahoo.com wrote:

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020 at 6:49:50 PM UTC-4, George Herold wrote:
On Monday, March 9, 2020 at 10:56:08 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 04:14:07 -0700 (PDT), bulegoge@columbus.rr.com
wrote:

Przemek Klosowski.... thank you for pointing to that interview on YouTube. I really liked the guys view on what the ltspice program is for which is so that the engineer can get better intuition as to how his circuits work. It is a piece of verification but should not be used is the sole purpose of verifying. I guess I like it because it resonated with my viewpoints about use of such a program

Being an IC guy, he did miss that a little as regards PC boards. I
often use LT Spice as the only process before I go to a PC board, but
then PC boards can be modified a lot easier than linear ICs, and parts
are mostly temperature stable as purchased.

And I design using LT Spice. Once one has some intuition, one can just
throw parts around in the sim and see what happens. That works
surprisingly well. I have several circuits in production that I don't
really understand.

I do much less math than I used to do. I guess rough values and tweak
in LT Spice. Voltage dividers, filters, oscillators this week. So it's
a calculator, too.

It also draws presentable diagrams to include in emails and manuals.
It's a drawing program.

I've had his same thought before: Romans built waterworks, people
built bridges and cathedrals and cannons and sailing ships, before
Newton invented calculus. Most science explained what people had
already built.
Sure, You'll also agree that generations of wisdom went into
mixing the right mortars, smelting iron/steel
and breaking masts with sails*.

And to John's point, much of that steel came to us by
Bessemer's fiddling not suggested to him by any equation
unavailable to everyone else, but by sheer dogged empirical
determination, then additions and refinements from later
minds.

And why did Bessemer do it? Wiki says he was inspired by
a conversation with Napoleon III to solve the high price of
artillery. I.e., the need was to facilitate war.

Bessemer's motivation? Possibly profit. He made some astute business
maneuvers suggesting so. And the innovation and the cheap steel that
resulted certainly wouldn't have happened in a socialist country,
without that profit motive. (And think of the loss to humanity,
think of the world today without cheap steel...)

But personally, like some of us, I think Bessemer did it because
he was having a blast.

Hi James, I agree. Oh I put an asterisk on sailing, cause I
was recently looking at Kai Lenny and his hydrofoil surfboards.
Again I assume he's doing it for fun and not profit.
(though life is great when profit can follow your fun :^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px88XsARHwc
(one of many videos)

George H.

I totally agree about intelligent fiddling. (intuition)
which you only get by fiddling with stuff.

I should do more ltspice. I mostly fiddle with solder.

George H.
Oh Przemek, thanks for the video.

Cheers,
James Arthur