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How many fucking times have I got to say it ? I already have apologised to"Arfa Daily" <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:OftRp.28431$Zn.18928@newsfe30.ams2...
Oh dear. Of course we understand the significance of them and the huge
technical advance that they represented, which is what made Gareth's use
of
the word "crap" (with the British accent of meaning), funny. I accept
that
this is a very subtle form of humour, and perhaps one that as an
American,
you don't understand.
Stop patronizing us. (Or at least, me.) Despite being a stupid American
(and
let's face it, Americans are stupid) I understand subtle and ironic humor.
THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE, though you insist on it.
Arfa, you seem to think that merely saying something -- especially in
print -- necessarily carries the context. IT DOESN'T.
Is it too much to ask that you say "Whoops! I didn't stop to think that
there was no way an American could have gotten the joke, and would have
misinterpreted it as a stupid and possibly offensive remark."?
No it isn't. Perhaps in London, when used with another word such asHere's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
No listing for "crap" in the British to US dictionary:Here's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
Welcome to one of the many joys of internationalization. Kinda likeI don't know how many more ways that I can say it to you. It *was* humour -
allbeit a variety that you seem unable to pick the bones out of. The comment
was *not* intended to be offensive no matter what you think, and would not
have been considered so by any British person.
There's also a difference in pronunciation. See:Here's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
In the US, a "geezer" is an injection drug user, typically a heroin
addict. See, for example, _The concise new Partridge dictionary of
slang and unconventional English_ byEric Partridge, Tom Dalzell, Terry
That's because the index wheel was made from beryllium copper. It"D" <none@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I have a "disposable" plastic POS I wear while biking, etc. It has its
place, and I'm glad to have it. But judging a 50 year old wristwatch
which was at the cutting edge of its discipline when it was made by the
TECHNICAL standards of today is pretty myopic, and misses the point
entirely.
The Accutron site referenced states that the stepper wheel was made using a
proprietary process that other companies were unable to duplicate. In fact,
the machine used to make it was deliberately destroyed by the company that
bought out Bulova.
They've been cloned. I have two that I bought for peanuts. NoI'm surprised no one has revived the Accutron. I have my father's, and when
my budget allows, I'll have a CLA performed.
Litvaks are Jews from Lithuania, not Poland. The dinner table holidayI thought the Litvaks were regarded as the more hoity-toity ones, the
snobby intellectuals. Or am I misreading this?
I could see $300, from an Asian plant. Watches tend to be overpriced anywayFun exercise: Guess how much a current reproduction of the
Accutron would sell for today? My offhand guess is about $3,000.
That might explain why they're not being reproduced.
In the US, a "geezer" is an injection drug user, typically a heroin"Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Oh dear. Of course we understand the significance of them and the huge
technical advance that they represented, which is what made Gareth's use
of
the word "crap" (with the British accent of meaning), funny. I accept that
this is a very subtle form of humour, and perhaps one that as an American,
you don't understand.
Stop patronizing us. (Or at least, me.) Despite being a stupid American (and
let's face it, Americans are stupid) I understand subtle and ironic humor..
THAT ISN'T THE ISSUE, though you insist on it.
Arfa, you seem to think that merely saying something -- especially in
print -- necessarily carries the context. IT DOESN'T.
Is it too much to ask that you say "Whoops! I didn't stop to think that
there was no way an American could have gotten the joke, and would have
misinterpreted it as a stupid and possibly offensive remark."?
Here's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
It took me years to understand the difference between a quango and aOn Fri, 8 Jul 2011 04:36:41 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote:
Here's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
No listing for "crap" in the British to US dictionary:
http://www.translatebritish.com/dictionary/c
but there is one for "geezer":
http://www.translatebritish.com/dictionary/g
which means "dude".
For settling such differences in interpretation, Americans prefer
litigation, where the winner is whomever is left standing after
everyone else runs out of money. The British are move civilized,
preferring trial by combat.
Confession: I like watching the old Dr Who shows. (The new shows
suck). The only problem is that I fail to understand most of the
subtle jokes, puns, political parodies, and UK specific terms.
I thought the Litvaks were regarded as the more hoity-toity ones, theIt also extends to personal habits. My family is from Poland. Half
are from the German side, the other half from the Russian. This
became a problem during the annual Passover dinner, where the two
sides would line up on opposite sides of the long table, and glare at
each other in disgust. The Germans were very much into table manners,
never touching the food and using the forks and knives to surgically
dissect the food. The Russians were into reach and grab, stopping
short of throwing the food across the table. To the Germans, the
Russians ate like pigs. To the Russians, the Germans were pretentious
and pretending to act like the upper classes of old Russia. Many
family wars were fought over the proper operation of the knife and
fork. Us kids would mimick the mannerisms of whichever side we wanted
to impress at the time. This and other differences were not resolved
until most of both sides had died.
Ron - Thanks for the helpful replies. The Mouser chart is especiallyYou MIGHT be able to find something here:
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Diodes-Rectifiers/Schottky-Diodes-Rectifiers/_/N-2xpr5?Keyword=diode&FS=True
, but you'll need the current drawn by the watch using a feedback
ammeter.
You could build one simple enough.
Oh and I do have a fair amount of test gear (several digital meters, anOn 7/8/2011 4:11 AM, Ron D. wrote:
You MIGHT be able to find something here:
http://www.mouser.com/Semiconductors/Diodes-Rectifiers/Schottky-Diodes-Rectifiers/_/N-2xpr5?Keyword=diode&FS=True
, but you'll need the current drawn by the watch using a feedback
ammeter.
You could build one simple enough.
Ron - Thanks for the helpful replies. The Mouser chart is especially
interesting. I've used both Digikey & Mouser in the past used to build a
lot of audio equipment, good sources.
Dan
** Hardly the case at all.There are also differences in methodology which will cause problems.
For example:
[Q] What's the difference between a bribe and a commission?
[A] When it's paid. A bribe in advance. A commission after.
Otherwise they're the same.
** A " bribe " is a payment or a gift intended to influence a person (In many parts of the world, anyone taking a commission is considered a
fool and bribery is considered the norm. In other parts, bribery is a
crime, while taking a commission is considered acceptable.
The law in most places proscribes " secret commissions " ....
LOL!On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:05:08 +0100, "Arfa Daily"
arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Frankly, I'm surprised that the humour of Gareth's remark passed so
completely over your head, Jeff ... :-\ Arfa
What humor? Besides, I only write humor, I never read it.
Jeff. The site that you refer to is American owned by someone in MI. For theOn Fri, 8 Jul 2011 04:36:41 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
Here's another example... In the US, "geezer" is considered somewhat
offensive, implying excessive age or senility. In Great Britain, it's
something of a compliment.
No listing for "crap" in the British to US dictionary:
http://www.translatebritish.com/dictionary/c
but there is one for "geezer":
http://www.translatebritish.com/dictionary/g
which means "dude".
For settling such differences in interpretation, Americans prefer
litigation, where the winner is whomever is left standing after
everyone else runs out of money. The British are move civilized,
preferring trial by combat.
Confession: I like watching the old Dr Who shows. (The new shows
suck). The only problem is that I fail to understand most of the
subtle jokes, puns, political parodies, and UK specific terms.
--
Jeff Liebermann
Wars have also been fought and nearly lost because of these
differences in terminology. During WWII, the allied general staff was
thoroughly confused when someone suggested "tabling" some action item.
In the US, that means delaying a decision. In England, it means
killing the idea.
Yes, and therein lies the problem with this discussion. It has all hinged onIt also extends to personal habits. My family is from Poland. Half
are from the German side, the other half from the Russian. This
became a problem during the annual Passover dinner, where the two
sides would line up on opposite sides of the long table, and glare at
each other in disgust. The Germans were very much into table manners,
never touching the food and using the forks and knives to surgically
dissect the food. The Russians were into reach and grab, stopping
short of throwing the food across the table. To the Germans, the
Russians ate like pigs. To the Russians, the Germans were pretentious
and pretending to act like the upper classes of old Russia. Many
family wars were fought over the proper operation of the knife and
fork. Us kids would mimick the mannerisms of whichever side we wanted
to impress at the time. This and other differences were not resolved
until most of both sides had died.
Treaties, legal contracts and laws were originally written in Latin,
because a dead language was not subject to dynamic changes in usage,
and therefore was far less subject to misinterpretation.
For those in this discussion that are less than tolerant about using
easily understandable terms, I recommend working with a virtual
company, where the various members are scattered all over the world.
Misunderstands are epidemic to the uninitiated and inexperienced. One
develops far more tolerance of alleged insults than has been
demonstrated in this discussion. In international discussions, I use
a totally different style of writing and speaking. Lots of rules and
hints, but one rule that is mandatory is "no slang".
--
Jeff Liebermann