magnifier

In article <e381a4e0-b2dc-4507-9bcc-ef5108d78e1e@googlegroups.com>,
whit3rd@gmail.com says...
The dentist wears a headset rig that allows him to work from at
least an arms length away.

I can understand a dentist wanting to be as far away as possible, but
further than an arms's length?

Mike.
 
Dave M wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:51:14 -0700 (PDT), captainvideo462009@gmail.com
wrote:

(...)
I thought that I could do it with the magnifiers I have
but the stuff is Just too small. I tried using a high res
TV camera with a varifocal 3.5 to 8 mm lens but it doesn't
make the image large enough. I was wondering what people
are using to do this. Thanks, Lenny

You can enlarge your video image with the appropriate software. You
may end up seeing scan lines and have focus problems, but it will be
larger. I have some software that came with a microscope camera that
does this quite well. I don't recall the name right now.

I have fair collection of vision aids. All of them work for specific
functions, but none of them work for every possible situation. Here's
my list:

1. 3.25 diopter reading glasses. I get these at the dollar store for
ummm.... $1/ea. They're junk and are treated accordingly. They're
what I use most when I want to inspect a PCB. I also have some other
power reading glasses for reading.

2. Surgical or dental loupe binoculars:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281832405417
I have a similar 3.5x-420mm binoculars that fit over my $1 reading
glasses. They're also available in:
2.5x-320mm
3.5x-320mm
2.5x-420mm
3.5x-420mm
and maybe some other sizes. I also have an LED light that clips onto
the glasses (or my hat).

3. USB camera/microscope something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351620052002
Most of the specs are lies. Mine is 640x480. Here's some sample
pics:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/USB%20Camera/640x480/index.html
What's important is the LED ring light, which produces shadow free
illumination. I also have a ring light for my microscope.

4. Trincocular microscope. The 3rd pipe is for the USB camera. Be
sure to get a camera with a 0.5x expander.
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/white-plastic-rot/slides/microscope-
setup.html
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/drivel/slides/Olympus-BHC-
Microscope.html

5. Inspection type binocular microscope. This one has about 2"
working distance and should be usable for soldering SMT parts.
However, I'm short on eye pieces, the boom needs work, and the optics
need cleaning. No photos.

6. Assortment of Fresnel and convex magnifier lenses and hand
magnifiers. Also, a few illuminated jewelers loops. I keep these in
the car for service calls, where the larger devices would get in the
way.

7. Various digital cameras with macro lenses or built in macro
features. It's often easier to inspect or enhance a digital photo,
than try to see detail through the lens.

Good luck...


Funny that this subject has come up at the same time that I'm looking for
a
hobbyist-priced stereo microscope for SMD assembly and rework. A good
stereo microscope seems indispensible now that almost everything
electronic is getting so small that only robots are capable of handling
and assembling it.
I've been looking at the AmScope line of stereo microscopes,
We have this one at work : eBay 400429169541 although we have a different
stand for it. It has two long (maybe 600mm) horizontal rods that link the
scope to the base. But, the scope is the same. They also sell a
fluorescent ring light that is just dumb, it cuts the working distance in
half, and totally gets in the way. I ended up making my own LED ring light,
which surrounds the nose of the scope, so it doesn't get in the way at all.
The magnification is maybe just a HAIR too much at minimum, but really does
well. I take my glasses off, so I can get my eyes really close to the
eyepieces, they you get a wider field of view. I have an old Olympus at
home, the AmScope at work, and we also have an ancient American Optical.
They all work about equally well.


Here's the same boom stand we have on ours. I think it is a very good stand
for bench electronics work.

eBay # 201537233463

Jon
 
Dave M wrote:

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 19:51:14 -0700 (PDT), captainvideo462009@gmail.com
wrote:

(...)
I thought that I could do it with the magnifiers I have
but the stuff is Just too small. I tried using a high res
TV camera with a varifocal 3.5 to 8 mm lens but it doesn't
make the image large enough. I was wondering what people
are using to do this. Thanks, Lenny

You can enlarge your video image with the appropriate software. You
may end up seeing scan lines and have focus problems, but it will be
larger. I have some software that came with a microscope camera that
does this quite well. I don't recall the name right now.

I have fair collection of vision aids. All of them work for specific
functions, but none of them work for every possible situation. Here's
my list:

1. 3.25 diopter reading glasses. I get these at the dollar store for
ummm.... $1/ea. They're junk and are treated accordingly. They're
what I use most when I want to inspect a PCB. I also have some other
power reading glasses for reading.

2. Surgical or dental loupe binoculars:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281832405417
I have a similar 3.5x-420mm binoculars that fit over my $1 reading
glasses. They're also available in:
2.5x-320mm
3.5x-320mm
2.5x-420mm
3.5x-420mm
and maybe some other sizes. I also have an LED light that clips onto
the glasses (or my hat).

3. USB camera/microscope something like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351620052002
Most of the specs are lies. Mine is 640x480. Here's some sample
pics:
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/USB%20Camera/640x480/index.html
What's important is the LED ring light, which produces shadow free
illumination. I also have a ring light for my microscope.

4. Trincocular microscope. The 3rd pipe is for the USB camera. Be
sure to get a camera with a 0.5x expander.
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/white-plastic-rot/slides/microscope-
setup.html
http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/drivel/slides/Olympus-BHC-
Microscope.html

5. Inspection type binocular microscope. This one has about 2"
working distance and should be usable for soldering SMT parts.
However, I'm short on eye pieces, the boom needs work, and the optics
need cleaning. No photos.

6. Assortment of Fresnel and convex magnifier lenses and hand
magnifiers. Also, a few illuminated jewelers loops. I keep these in
the car for service calls, where the larger devices would get in the
way.

7. Various digital cameras with macro lenses or built in macro
features. It's often easier to inspect or enhance a digital photo,
than try to see detail through the lens.

Good luck...


Funny that this subject has come up at the same time that I'm looking for
a
hobbyist-priced stereo microscope for SMD assembly and rework. A good
stereo microscope seems indispensible now that almost everything
electronic is getting so small that only robots are capable of handling
and assembling it.
I've been looking at the AmScope line of stereo microscopes, which are
available directly form AmScope and Ebay, for similar prices. The ones
I'm interested in are the model SE400X 5X-10X Stereo Boom Arm Microscope
(Ebay item 140927802323) and the 7X-45X Trinocular Articulating Zoom
Microscope +
Ring Light (SKU: SM-6T-FRL on AmScope.com).

Check eBay # 400334443106 This is the same size as the crummy fluorescent
ring light we got, it sticks about one whole INCH below the rest of the
microscope, and also is almost 2" wider in diameter than that part of the
scope. Really gets in the way of working on things. So, I do not recommend
this specific light. What you want is one that fits up higher around that
black conical part, just under the white ring with the thumbscrew in the
first picture.

Jon
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 10:17:23 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

You can enlarge your video image with the appropriate software. You
may end up seeing scan lines and have focus problems, but it will be
larger. I have some software that came with a microscope camera that
does this quite well. I don't recall the name right now.

It's called AmScope from the company AmScope:
<https://www.amscope.com/software-download>
<https://unitedscopellc.wordpress.com/>
<http://www.scopetek.com/download/download.html>
I just noticed that I'm using a really old version. I guess I should
try something later.





--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 13:39:54 -0700 (PDT), dansabrservices@yahoo.com
wrote:

I picked up an AM-Scope from Ebay a few years ago and use it all the time.
Works great!! This particular unit has up to 80X with a different insert.
I've only used the higher mag once but it was useful for the task.
These take a little practice, but are best for SMD work.
Dan

Yep. I just ran a screen capture of an SMD device with the cheap
640x480 USB camera placed as close to the PCB as possible.
Illuminination is by the LED ring built into the USB camera:
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/USB%20Camera/AmScope/>
The small photo is 640x480 as captured by the AmScope 3.7 software.
The large photo is a screen grab of the program, with a few menus
showing, and the image expanded 2x (fit to window). Not too horrible
for a $12 camera:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/351620052002>
The down side is that the gimbal mount is impossible to tighten enough
to keep the assembly from falling over, the clamp around the camera
body had to be glued in place to keep it from falling off, and the
LED's are intermittent (bang on case to operate).
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 17:21:34 -0500, Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu>
wrote:

Check eBay # 400334443106 This is the same size as the crummy fluorescent
ring light we got, it sticks about one whole INCH below the rest of the
microscope, and also is almost 2" wider in diameter than that part of the
scope. Really gets in the way of working on things. So, I do not recommend
this specific light. What you want is one that fits up higher around that
black conical part, just under the white ring with the thumbscrew in the
first picture.

This is the one that I bought for my various microscopes and cameras:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/311570447425>
I wanted variable intensity and as much junk away from the ring as
possible and a double ring of LEDs to help reduce shadows even
further. The hole size is 60mm ID.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
1I have a customer who does SMT repair work and I recently had him help me. I
watched him replace an 8 pin SOT for me. He had a dual lens machine like
something you might see on CSI.

Can you ask him what the make and model of his CSI machine is?
 
Jon,
What are the dimensions of the light ring (ID, OD, thickness)? Im thinking
of another application for it.
I asked the seller and he/she replied that all the data about the item was
in the description. The only dimension that I saw in the description was
the mounting diameter (61mm max).

Dave M

Jon Elson wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote:



This is the one that I bought for my various microscopes and cameras:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311570447425
This still fits below the black cone of the microscope objectives,
and is larger in diameter. What I made fit around the upper part of
the black cone, just under the ring that holds the microscope. So,
it is much less in the way of your hands, tools, etc.

Jon
 
Jeff Liebermann wrote:


This is the one that I bought for my various microscopes and cameras:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311570447425
This still fits below the black cone of the microscope objectives, and is
larger in diameter. What I made fit around the upper part of the black
cone, just under the ring that holds the microscope. So, it is much less in
the way of your hands, tools, etc.

Jon
 
On 25/03/2016 13:51, captainvideo462009@gmail.com wrote:
I need to purchase a magnifier so that I'll be able to do things like replace eproms and other small SMT's. I'm not looking to do LSI's with 150 pins Etc. Just mostly smaller stuff. For instance I currently have a board that needs an 8 pin Eprom replaced. I thought that I could do it with the magnifiers I have but the stuff is Just too small. I tried using a high res TV camera with a varifocal 3.5 to 8 mm lens but it doesn't make the image large enough. I was wondering what people are using to do this. Thanks, Lenny

Nikon SMZ645/660 (used) or SMZ745 (new), on a boom (can be home made),
ideally with a ring light.
 
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:46:04 -0500, "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net>
wrote:

>Jon,

Methinks that you mean't me.

>What are the dimensions of the light ring (ID, OD, thickness)?

ID: 60 mm
OD: 96 mm (not including lock screws and power connector).
Thick: 30 mm

Adjustable power supply:
Model: LC-P800
Input: 90-240VAC 50/60Hz
Output: 10-12VDC 750 ma Max

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This is the one that I bought for my various microscopes and cameras:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311570447425

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Yes, Jeff, I was addressing the question to you; sorry if I was ambiguous.
Thanks for the info.

Dave M


Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:46:04 -0500, "Dave M" <dgminala@mediacombb.net
wrote:

Jon,

Methinks that you mean't me.

What are the dimensions of the light ring (ID, OD, thickness)?

ID: 60 mm
OD: 96 mm (not including lock screws and power connector).
Thick: 30 mm

Adjustable power supply:
Model: LC-P800
Input: 90-240VAC 50/60Hz
Output: 10-12VDC 750 ma Max

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
This is the one that I bought for my various microscopes and
cameras: <http://www.ebay.com/itm/311570447425
 

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