Mac PB 5300 & start-up test?

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DaveC

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Is there any way to tell what in this PowerBook 5300 has failed? I'm getting
only the 3 chimes after the initial boot "gong".

It would be nice to be able to do some troubleshooting, by process of
elimination, but I need to know what the power-on test is looking for.

Will the test pass successfully without a RAM card? A hard drive? Keyboard?
Trackpad?

I could, module-by-module, reduce the PB to just a power supply and mother
board if I knew that the power-on test wasn't expecting all of these modules.

I've checked the Apple Support archives and can't find any information about
the power-on test.

Any clues?

Thanks,
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DaveC posted:
Is there any way to tell what in this PowerBook 5300 has failed? I'm getting
only the 3 chimes after the initial boot "gong".

It would be nice to be able to do some troubleshooting, by process of
elimination, but I need to know what the power-on test is looking for.

Will the test pass successfully without a RAM card? A hard drive? Keyboard?

Trackpad?

I could, module-by-module, reduce the PB to just a power supply and mother

board if I knew that the power-on test wasn't expecting all of these modules.

I've checked the Apple Support archives and can't find any information about

the power-on test.

Any clues?

Thanks,
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Do you ever see the happy computer icon?

For starts, have you attempted to startup using a floppy disc having the
system? Inserting the floppy before starting the boot will force the computer
to attempt a floppy start. I recommend for test, any of System 6.04 through
7.5.

I'm sure the startup includes a test of the RAM. At boot, the computer puts
the System into RAM.

I know a defective keyboard can, but not always, prevent booting. I had to
replace the "bronze" keyboard (only $64) when I was unable to clean out all the
Latte'.

If it would help, I could dust off the 5300 and pull the kbd to see what
happens.

Let me know.

Don
 
In article <0001HW.BCD24E8F002E91FDF03055B0@news.individual.net>, DaveC
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

Is there any way to tell what in this PowerBook 5300 has failed? I'm getting
only the 3 chimes after the initial boot "gong".
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3 beeps mean that no RAM banks have passed memory testing. Replace
existing RAM DIMM's one at a time.
 
In article <0001HW.BCD2706C003681F6F03055B0@news.individual.net>, DaveC
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:45:49 -0700, Chris Moore wrote
(in article <200520041545486669%reply_to@newsgroup.INVALID>):

3 beeps mean that no RAM banks have passed memory testing. Replace
existing RAM DIMM's one at a time.

I'm not sure that these would be described as "beeps". Are you familiar with
what is know commonly as the "chimes of death"? They are three, increasing in
pitch, each about 2 seconds long.

What reference are you getting the "3 beeps = bad RAM" data from?
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Sorry. . .it applies to my computer (a B/W G3) and came off the top of
my head. 1 beep is no RAM, 2 is incompatible RAM, and 3 is RAM failed
memory test. After checking your manual it doesn't apply.

For the '4' chime - chimes of death it recommends:

1 Reset PRAM.
2 Remove floppy drive from media bay and restart computer.
If startup sequence is normal, insert floppy drive and retest.
3 Replace floppy mechanism.
4 Disconnect hard drive cable and restart computer. If startup
sequence is normal, reconnect cable and retest.
5 Replace hard drive.
6 Replace logic board.

Upgrade to System Enabler 1.2.1 or later. Refer to Apple
Software Updates on Service Source Companion CD.

For the '8' chime - chimes of death it says:

1 Remove RAM card (if present) and restart computer. If
startup sequence is normal, replace RAM card and retest.
2 Reseat RAM card and check connection.
3 Replace RAM card.
4 Replace logic board.
 
On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:06:10 -0700, Dbowey wrote
(in article <20040520160610.27780.00001928@mb-m11.aol.com>):

If it would help, I could dust off the 5300 and pull the kbd to see what
happens.
Click to expand...
Thanks for your reply.

Keyboard in or out, no change in chimes. Ditto for hard drive, floppy drive,
RAM card, and trackpad. That's about as much as you can remove with the
keyboard off.
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Correction:
It's 4 tones, increasing in pitch, about 3 seconds each, followed by 4 more,
in a 2,3,2,1 pitch (2 is lower, 3 higher).

Any idea how to determine meaning?

Thanks,
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On Thu, 20 May 2004 13:45:49 -0700, Chris Moore wrote
(in article <200520041545486669%reply_to@newsgroup.INVALID>):

3 beeps mean that no RAM banks have passed memory testing. Replace
existing RAM DIMM's one at a time.
Click to expand...
I'm not sure that these would be described as "beeps". Are you familiar with
what is know commonly as the "chimes of death"? They are three, increasing in
pitch, each about 2 seconds long.

What reference are you getting the "3 beeps = bad RAM" data from?

Thanks,
--
DaveC
me@privacy.net
This is an invalid return address
Please reply in the news group
 
In article <0001HW.BCD2AE8B00451168F03055B0@news.individual.net>, DaveC
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

Correction:
It's 4 tones, increasing in pitch, about 3 seconds each, followed by 4 more,
in a 2,3,2,1 pitch (2 is lower, 3 higher).

Any idea how to determine meaning?
Click to expand...
As I had stated:

For the '8' chime - chimes of death it says:

1 Remove RAM card (if present) and restart computer. If
startup sequence is normal, replace RAM card and retest.
2 Reseat RAM card and check connection.
3 Replace RAM card.
4 Replace logic board.


It points to either RAM or a bad logic board. If you want to give me
your email addy and I'll send you the service manual (PDF).
 
On Fri, 21 May 2004 03:43:57 -0700, Chris Moore wrote
(in article <210520040543569909%reply_to@newsgroup.INVALID>):

It points to either RAM or a bad logic board. If you want to give me
your email addy and I'll send you the service manual (PDF).
Click to expand...
I found one and downloaded it.

Thanks for your help.
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