Lyin\' Biden REFUSES to do the ONE thing that can hurt Russia...

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 2/26/2022 21:03, David Brown wrote:

On 26/02/2022 19:28, Joe Gwinn wrote:
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 09:45:38 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 26/02/2022 07:07, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:


The USSR was put to its knees on his watch.
Great man.

Correlation does not imply causation.

He was an actor - he did what people around him directed him to do. To
be fair on the guy, he /did/ have a reasonable (in comparison to many)
group of advisors, and he certainly put up a good show of leading.
(Remember Bush the elder? His must trusted advisor was his wife, and
her advice came from her astrologist.)

Most big things in the world happen as the consequence of long chains or
webs of interconnected events, influences and coincidences. Even the
leaders of the most powerful countries in world seldom have much direct
effect in the big picture. In particular, they seldom have much /good/
effect - but they /can/ screw things up fairly quickly.

The collapse of the USSR was the result of decades of pressure. Regan
contributed his few straws to the camel\'s back, just like his
predecessors. Other than that, he just happened to be the guy in the
office at the time. \"The USSR was put to its knees on his watch\" - he
was watching, he did not put the USSR to its knees.

While it is certainly true that there were decades of pressure, the
containment policy, Reagan did give the Soviet Union the final push,
by bankrupting the SU.

Their economy basically did not work, and their military was quite
expensive. Star Wars basically pulled the SU into a spending contest
with a far richer opponent, as did expanding the Navy to 600 ships
(target, not quite achieved), and the Army, etc, with no end in sight.
Size of economy does matter.


Crediting Regan with the final push (or crediting him with picking the
staff and advisors that did this) is reasonable. Making it sound like
he single-handedly brought down the USSR is not.

No man ever has single-handedly defeated any empire, obviously.
But there is more to it than the obvious. Reagan was just made for
the job. Any good leader must be a good actor and act such that
his people will follow him; he was that *and* he believed what he was
doing was right. Or at least this is what the world saw.

Picking the next good actor to do a similar job is a difficult thing.
The actors are known by the characters they enact and this is not
enough for those who pick them to pick one. Hopefully they find someone,
not just anybody only because anybody will do better than Trump.

\"Star Wars\" was quite successful, in its way - not bad for a bigger work
of fiction than George Lucas\'s version!

Indeed, I wonder to what extent did the Russians fall for it. Perhaps
those within the KGB knew, perhaps not. But the media effect on the
people in the East Block was huge, we all thought \"now let me see
the Russians match *that*\" (the media here was whining how bad they
were wanting to militarize space etc.).

 

[Dmitriy Pshonkin]

I was in Grozny (Chechnya) this summer.
Do you remember what the city looked like after the war?
Now it is a young flourishing city.
America has been brainwashing Ukrainians since 1991, and especially since 2014.
I was in Kyiv on the first \"Maidan\".
Ukrainians are very active, passionate, but narrow-minded people.
Now there will be no \"Bandera\", \"Ukrainian rebel army\",
\"moskalyaku on gilyaku\", torchlight processions.
The West created anti-Russia from Ukraine.

 

[StupidAs StupidGet]

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:49:45 PM UTC-8, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:

I was in Grozny (Chechnya) this summer.
Do you remember what the city looked like after the war?
Now it is a young flourishing city.
America has been brainwashing Ukrainians since 1991, and especially since 2014.
I was in Kyiv on the first \"Maidan\".
Ukrainians are very active, passionate, but narrow-minded people.
Now there will be no \"Bandera\", \"Ukrainian rebel army\",
\"moskalyaku on gilyaku\", torchlight processions.
The West created anti-Russia from Ukraine.

Go post in a Russian newsgroup. Most English speakers disagree with you.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 2/26/2022 22:49, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:

...
The West created anti-Russia from Ukraine.

Well they were looking at Poland over the border and saw
them develop; they have also seen what life is in Russia
and what it was for them.
They made the obvious choice. The West is guilty of being
a better place to live and thus attracting them to itself,
in that sense you are correct.

 

[Dmitriy Pshonkin]

In Russian there is such a word \"халява\" = freebie.
This is the main incentive.
This is the same carrot in front of the noses of Ukrainians aimed at European integration.
Ukraine was ruled by an oligarchy until the Americans came in 2014.
I see how CNN and Euronews propaganda works.
The missile that hit a multi-storey building today was Ukrainian anti-aircraft.
Now new military assistance has been promised to the regime of the controlled Zelensky - together with the militants, she will be expelled to Poland.
Lviv - the Polish city will be again.
With Stingers and Javelins))

The West is trying to undermine Russia inside.
But the worse for the Russian, the better))

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 2/26/2022 23:46, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:

In Russian there is such a word \"халява\" = freebie.
This is the main incentive.
This is the same carrot in front of the noses of Ukrainians aimed at European integration.
Ukraine was ruled by an oligarchy until the Americans came in 2014.
I see how CNN and Euronews propaganda works.

Didn\'t know the халява word. But *no*, this is not the incentive
for people to want to westernize. What people want is to have a
future to look forward to. In oligarch (i.e. feudal) countries there is
no such thing, if you live in Russia you will know that.
Now how much of it is there in real life elsewhere can be debated
but this is what people are looking/hoping for. Usually they find
out life is not as easy and shiny in the West as they hoped it would
be but although harder than expected they do get a chance they
could not hope to get while in oligarch land.

> The missile that hit a multi-storey building today was Ukrainian anti-aircraft.

So you seriously believe what the Putin media tell you about that?
Not that it is impossible but they also tell you that after 3 days
of heavy fights they have no casualties...

Now new military assistance has been promised to the regime of the controlled Zelensky - together with the militants, she will be expelled to Poland.
Lviv - the Polish city will be again.
With Stingers and Javelins))

Well he asked for help and hopefully he will get it.

> The West is trying to undermine Russia inside.

Well this is what enemies do. The Kremlin does the same, troll
farms and everything.

> But the worse for the Russian, the better))

I know the Russians are capable of putting up with hardships,
but to look for these... At the moment they are under control of
yet another psychopath whose idol is Stalin, do they really like that?

 

[whit3rd]

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 2:07:03 PM UTC-8, Dimiter Popoff wrote:

On 2/26/2022 23:46, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:

The West is trying to undermine Russia inside.

Well this is what enemies do. The Kremlin does the same, troll
farms and everything.

It\'s not exactly the same. Some hacking exploits of the past, which are traced
to Russians versus US, were, according to Putin, perhaps just \'patriotic\' Russians.
That sounds suspiciously like a letter of marque and reprisal, i.e. an official
approval of attacks against a foreign nation. Such a letter of marque is an act of war.

The US doesn\'t shield its citizens committing such misdeeds just because the victims are
foreign.

 

[Dimiter_Popoff]

On 2/27/2022 0:27, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 2:07:03 PM UTC-8, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
On 2/26/2022 23:46, Dmitriy Pshonkin wrote:

The West is trying to undermine Russia inside.

Well this is what enemies do. The Kremlin does the same, troll
farms and everything.

It\'s not exactly the same. Some hacking exploits of the past, which are traced
to Russians versus US, were, according to Putin, perhaps just \'patriotic\' Russians.
That sounds suspiciously like a letter of marque and reprisal, i.e. an official
approval of attacks against a foreign nation. Such a letter of marque is an act of war.

The US doesn\'t shield its citizens committing such misdeeds just because the victims are
foreign.

I know. But the typical thinking of those sympathizing with the
Kremlin is that the western media are undermining their regime.

Which they are, being guilty of showing life in the West as it is...

 

[server]

Dmitriy Pshonkin <plastcontrol.ru@gmail.com> wrote in news:984b5ef4-
e8fd-4992-8697-62f42c36f4c1n@googlegroups.com:

> Dmitriy Pshonkin

You are an abject idiot.

 

[Dmitriy Pshonkin]

I experienced \"La sindrome di Stendhal\" after visiting Florence.
Upon returning to St. Petersburg, for two weeks I was in a hurry to lie down and fall asleep in order to see incredible colorful dreams!
Too bad this will never happen again...

 

[server]

On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 08:12:51 -0800 (PST), Dmitriy Pshonkin
<plastcontrol.ru@gmail.com> wrote:

I experienced \"La sindrome di Stendhal\" after visiting Florence.
Upon returning to St. Petersburg, for two weeks I was in a hurry to lie down and fall asleep in order to see incredible colorful dreams!
Too bad this will never happen again...

Was that more distressing or pleasant? Sounds like fun.

I rarely have hallucinations and really enjoy them. Among other
virtues, that\'s the only time I have perfect vision with vivid colors.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

 

[Dmitriy Pshonkin]

I experienced \"La sindrome di Stendhal\" after visiting Florence.
Upon returning to St. Petersburg, for two weeks I was in a hurry to lie down and fall asleep in order to see incredible colorful dreams!
Too bad this will never happen again...
Was that more distressing or pleasant? Sounds like fun.

I rarely have hallucinations and really enjoy them. Among other
virtues, that\'s the only time I have perfect vision with vivid colors.

It was incredibly enjoyable.
Botticelli played his joke on me))

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:57:56 PM UTC-6, Flyguy wrote:

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 12:46:17 PM UTC-8, John Doe wrote:
Flyguy wrote:

...which is to open up and mandate the drilling, transport, and refining
of ALL of our oil reserves.
Even before Biden, Europe was importing a large part of its oil and gas from
Russia. Europe couldn\'t care less about the spat between Russia and Ukraine.
Even if they wanted to do something about it, they aren\'t, and we are not the
world\'s police.

This \"Russia Russia Russia war war war\" garbage is all about supporting the
military-industrial complex and its political puppets, and the media.

Russia controlled Ukraine and many other countries up until the 1990s. The
only theory for why the Russia-Ukraine conflict might be an effort to
reestablish the USSR is a response to the continuing fall of our
civilization. Otherwise, the same forces that made Russia release those
countries are still in play today.
The USSR fell apart in the 90s because they went bankrupt and could not compete with the West economically. Countering Russia\'s aggression should be done the same way: economically. And this means reducing their primary source of revenue: oil. Lyin\' Biden is a puppet for the greenies and won\'t do this.

This article makes it sound like Biden wasn\'t the one slowing things down. Some
European countries economies are a bit too closely linked to Russia\'s.
<shorturl.at/kqI07>
The link leads to NBC News.

 

[John Doe]

Dean Hoffman wrote:

This article makes it sound like Biden wasn\'t the one slowing things
down. Some European countries economies are a bit too closely linked to
Russia\'s.

shorturl.at/kqI07

The link leads to NBC News.

Yep!

A simple Google search shows many European countries are importing oil and
gas from Russia. The fact Germany destroyed its own nuclear power plants
makes it more dependent on Russia. And somehow we are supposed to fight
the war they are not fighting.

Germany has gone berserk. I won\'t be surprised if they start acting up,
too. It wouldn\'t be the first time.

The only negative about nuclear power plants as they are easy to target.
Maybe that\'s why Germany is trying to do without them, preparation for
war.

 

[John Doe]

Dean Hoffman wrote:

shorturl.at/kqI07

The link leads to NBC News.

BTW... That doesn\'t work in Xnews.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:04:50 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

Dean Hoffman wrote:

This article makes it sound like Biden wasn\'t the one slowing things
down. Some European countries economies are a bit too closely linked to
Russia\'s.

shorturl.at/kqI07

The link leads to NBC News.
Yep!

A simple Google search shows many European countries are importing oil and
gas from Russia. The fact Germany destroyed its own nuclear power plants
makes it more dependent on Russia. And somehow we are supposed to fight
the war they are not fighting.

Germany has gone berserk.

If they had, they would have been fighting.

\"early 19th century (originally as a noun denoting an ancient Norse warrior who fought with wild or uncontrolled ferocity): from Old Norse berserkr (noun), probably from birn-, bjorn (see bear2) + serkr ‘coat’, but also possibly from berr ‘bare’ (i.e. without armour).\"

John Doe\'s grasp of English isn\'t good.

> I won\'t be surprised if they start acting up, too. It wouldn\'t be the first time.

Claiming that Germany has gone berserk would be claiming that they were acting up. They aren\'t. They do seem to be applying economic sanctions against Russia.

> The only negative about nuclear power plants as they are easy to target.

That is a short term disadvantage. In the long term you have put the radioative waste in a very secure repository that will keep it safely isolated for a few hundred thousand years. John Doe hasn\'t taken this on board.

> Maybe that\'s why Germany is trying to do without them, preparation for war.

Wrong. They got shut down after Fukushima had reminded people that even well run nuclear reactors could create environmental disasters when something unexpected happened. War didn\'t come into it.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 5:57:37 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

<snip>

Bozo \"The Clown\" John Doe can\'t think up anything relevant to say, so he re-posts moronic abuse from previous threads.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Flyguy]

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:04:09 PM UTC-8, dean...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:05:06 PM UTC-6, Flyguy wrote:
...which is to open up and mandate the drilling, transport, and refining of ALL of our oil reserves.
I didn\'t realize the President had the authority to require ordinary people to work. Military?
China just signed an agreement to buy 100 million tons of coal from Russia. India already had an agreement to buy 40 million tons.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-china-new-coal-deal-state-media
I remember when Nixon went to China. The U.S. was going to play the Soviet Union
off against the Chinese. Times change.

The President, along with the rest of the Dims, have the power to make not working more attractive than working. Who is going to work when they can make more money from unemployment? And it is well known that people will take LESS money because it is a paid vacation.

There is an alternative, it is called \"workfare:\"
https://aninjusticemag.com/welfare-or-workfare-2c44ac507449

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 8:38:32 AM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:

On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:04:09 PM UTC-8, dean...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, February 24, 2022 at 2:05:06 PM UTC-6, Flyguy wrote:
...which is to open up and mandate the drilling, transport, and refining of ALL of our oil reserves.
I didn\'t realize the President had the authority to require ordinary people to work. Military?
China just signed an agreement to buy 100 million tons of coal from Russia. India already had an agreement to buy 40 million tons.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russia-china-new-coal-deal-state-media
I remember when Nixon went to China. The U.S. was going to play the Soviet Union
off against the Chinese. Times change.

The President, along with the rest of the Democrats, have the power to make not working more attractive than working. Who is going to work when they can make more money from unemployment? And it is well known that people will take LESS money because it is a paid vacation.

People like working. It\'s not just the money - they like the social aspect of cooperating with other people. Right-wing lunatics don\'t get this - they like their economic theories to be simple enough to be mathematically tractable, and reject any move to make them realistic enough to have any predictive power.

Flyguy hasn\'t got a clue about this (or anything else much).

> There is an alternative, it is called \"workfare:\"

<snipped the usual drivel>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:0df814ff-f5f9-4f97-bdee-
00e0588d5d3cn@googlegroups.com:

> There is an alternative,

Yeah, your whore mother could have pulled the flush handle.

You could not be more stupid if you tried.